Neca TMNT SDCC Video Game sets

[d_osborn]

Originally Posted by Lil Karai

The turtles are completely new sculpts, not repaints.

Well then they completely dropped the ball.

Unless these are just repaints for a future large-scale release, I guess. Maybe the repaint was just released early for SDCC. If these sculpts were done strictly for the video game versions, that's a huge missed opportunity.

[Zage]

I hope that they release the other colors of the Foot Soldiers, later on.

[Lil Karai]

Originally Posted by d_osborn

Well then they completely dropped the ball.

Unless these are just repaints for a future large-scale release, I guess. Maybe the repaint was just released early for SDCC. If these sculpts were done strictly for the video game versions, that's a huge missed opportunity.

many many many fans disagree with you. If you don't like the sculpts, that's cool, but saying they dropped the ball is simply not true. These things are selling fast. NECA is setting aside a stash (not available for online preorder) to bring the con first come first serve for cash customers. So they might very well sell out online soon, and then have some available only at the show.

The sculpt style and paint style fits exactly in with the rest of their Video Game Appearance line. Doing things like Jakks Pacific or whatever other blocky pixelated style someone else was referring to, hasn't been their style at all up to this point.

Also once again to repeat, it is not NECA's choice or preference to only distribute these at SDCC. License is very strict and only allows for this option. With the crazy amount of press this all has generated, hopefully licensors will take notice. In the very least, it's been free advertising for the brand.

[T-U-R-T-L-E POWA!]

Originally Posted by Lil Karai

The turtles are completely new sculpts, not repaints.

...and they are absolutely gorgeous!

[Discogod]

Don't know if it's been mentioned here yet, but it's been confirmed that these are limited to 3000 per set.

At $600,000 if they sell out (which is a cert), that's more than enough to cover the cost of development, tooling (basically 2 bodies, then heads & weapons) and production. Sure, NECA could potentially reuse the molds for further figures, but it's not like they're taking a massive financial hit if this is in fact the only time these figures will be issued.

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by imevilduckie

I seriously doubt that Playmates is "threatened by NECA's superiority". They're simply avoiding brand confusion and giving the customer other choices through traditional means. It's old-school retail, folks. Playmates has never catered to the serious collector's market and likely never will. They're doing what they feel is necessary to protect their brand and its profits. If kids see other, more expensive figures that they want more than the Playmates toys, they will either have their parents buy them or leave empty-handed. Neither of these scenarios are positive for Playmates.

Considering 1:10th scale NECA figures are close to Playmates Classics figures in price range, and Playmates denied NECA to sell their Turtles in retail stores back in 2008 and now a complete embargo leaving NECA to only sell figures at SDCC.

It's safe to say they are feeling threaten by NECA considering Playmates half-assed Classics figures would have been severely outclassed by NECA's standards.

[imevilduckie]

Originally Posted by go_ninja84

then why make their license so strict they can only sell at the SDCC. i dont even understand how a toy company can have such a stronghold on something they didnt even create. and Nickelodeon is letting it happen

I explained why in the post that you quoted. It has nothing to do with superiority and everything to do with protecting their profits and marketing position.

With respect to Nick "letting it happen", Playmates has been the master licensor since 1987. Nickelodeon likely inherited the pre-existing contract terms between Mirage and Playmates. There's not a lot that Nick can do. If there were, I'm sure they would want these products to have wider availability because that would result in larger royalty payments for Nick.

[lilmotto]

Originally Posted by TheBlueTurtle1

I implied no such thing. I said I would be willing to pay $100-120 for these which is MORE than they are selling them at CC. I would accept the fact you would need to pay a little more to cover there listing fees, etc, and would be happy to do that.

It requires little effort if you are going to SDCC and think to yourself, "Ill buy a couple of NECAs while I am there".

Asking $200- $300 is day light robbery, and if you're foolish enough to spend that on these figures you don't deserve the money in the first place.

There's a reason they say a fool and his/her money are soon parted.

With $200 price that would be $26 in ebay + paypal fees = $174 - shipping cost likely $14 would be safe $160. So someone screwing you over only get $60 out of that extra $100. Not saying $60 profit isn't a lot, but it isn't as insane as people make it out to be. $60 to take the time in an insane venue to stand in line and get the item (likely will miss out on other con activities to do this) and to take the time to ship it isn't really super unreasonable.

That being said as someone not going to the con it is hard for me to justify paying $200 for a $100 figure set.
Hopefully some fellow members get some and sell them to us for a more reasonable price than ebay since those costs are taken out of the equation.

[imevilduckie]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Considering 1:10th scale NECA figures are close to Playmates Classics figures in price range, and Playmates denied NECA to sell their Turtles in retail stores back in 2008 and now a complete embargo leaving NECA to only sell figures at SDCC.

It's safe to say they are feeling threaten by NECA considering Playmates half-assed Classics figures would have been severely outclassed by NECA's standards.

It's not the standards or the quality of the figures that Playmates is worried about. It's simply about having competing products of the same license available in the same retail locations. If some other company got the TMNT license and produced lower quality figures than Playmates, the terms and restrictions would still be the same.

To put it a different way, it's the same reason that most restaurants have either Coke products or Pepsi products available, but not both brands. Exclusivity agreements help to protect the vendor's market position.

[Discogod]

I dunno, there's 2 companies making both Marvel (Hasbro & Diamond) & DC* (Mattel & DC themselves) action figures. Sure, one line's sold at retail and the other's more speciality, but at my LCS they share peg space in their respective sections. There's also Jakks making large-scale figures, and 12" companies making high-end versions, and that's without getting into import figs. There's enough room for everyone.

OK, you could say TMNT's not quite as popular/iconic as the likes of Spidey & Batman, but I think there's room for both mass-market toys, whether aimed at kids or collectors, and higher-end, more niche products like NECA put out. It's just sheer greed by Playmates - they have no intention of producing well-made, decent quality toys representing the comics, movies or games. Even if NECA was limited to selling their versions through comic shops, or online, it'd be better than nothing.





*not to mention the figures by NECA & Diamond based on the live-action movies/TV shows.

[d_osborn]

Originally Posted by Lil Karai

many many many fans disagree with you. If you don't like the sculpts, that's cool, but saying they dropped the ball is simply not true. These things are selling fast. NECA is setting aside a stash (not available for online preorder) to bring the con first come first serve for cash customers. So they might very well sell out online soon, and then have some available only at the show.

Dropping the ball may have been harsh. Huge missed opportunity is more like it. The sculpts are cool, just not in a pixelated, video game sprite kind of way. I believe previous releases in their 8bit video game series were repaints. I have one... Batman 1989, I think. It's cool, but not at all representative of the original sprite. It was an impulse buy due to the insanely cool packaging.

I'm sure the fans that buy these will enjoy them, but they aren't for me. Cool idea, subpar execution-- especially for what they'll be selling for from flippers.

I wouldn't at all be shocked if these sculpts get a wider release with a more standard paint job. ...and I have no doubt these will sell out. It's a very limited run with a huge fan base and eBay flippers foaming at the mouth. No shock there.

[olmstead33]

Originally Posted by lilmotto

With $200 price that would be $26 in ebay + paypal fees = $174 - shipping cost likely $14 would be safe $160. So someone screwing you over only get $60 out of that extra $100. Not saying $60 profit isn't a lot, but it isn't as insane as people make it out to be. $60 to take the time in an insane venue to stand in line and get the item (likely will miss out on other con activities to do this) and to take the time to ship it isn't really super unreasonable.

That being said as someone not going to the con it is hard for me to justify paying $200 for a $100 figure set.
Hopefully some fellow members get some and sell them to us for a more reasonable price than ebay since those costs are taken out of the equation.

Also another figure to figure in is the price of entrance to SDCC. It is $175 to attend.

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by d_osborn

I wouldn't at all be shocked if these sculpts get a wider release with a more standard paint job.

Probably SDCC 2017, unless Playmates gets their stick up their ass removed.

[bretttheleofan]

I was able to secure both sets for 300 shipped. I'm good with that deal and they will look awesome displayed with my arcade cabinet.

[TheBlueTurtle1]

Would it be better to get a set once people actually get them in hand?. What happens if they can't get to the conn or something.

[Lil Karai]

Originally Posted by TheBlueTurtle1

Would it be better to get a set once people actually get them in hand?. What happens if they can't get to the conn or something.

That'd be my recommendation. Also give a chance for many people to get these in hand, and let the competition drive down the prices on eBay.

Right now everyone is panicking, and paying more than they would once competition of in-hand sets sets in.

That's just my advice.

[Meow]

Originally Posted by Lil Karai

Also give a chance

Sensing you seem to be one of NECAs spokes people around here I'd like to give you the chance to hear you out on the international situation because - as already mentioned - we non US people feel more than left over, in fact more like left off which feels worse than feeding the already barking dog under the table. I (as in "we the non US people") would appreciate to read from you in this matter in detail

[Coro]

Originally Posted by Discogod

Don't know if it's been mentioned here yet, but it's been confirmed that these are limited to 3000 per set.

At $600,000 if they sell out (which is a cert), that's more than enough to cover the cost of development, tooling (basically 2 bodies, then heads & weapons) and production. Sure, NECA could potentially reuse the molds for further figures, but it's not like they're taking a massive financial hit if this is in fact the only time these figures will be issued.

You are forgetting at least 30% of that money goes to the license holder

[ScratchTheHotSpot]

For some reason... not sure why... The eBay listings for these sets have been disappearing rapidly in the past few hours.

Not just "this item has ended early", or whatever.. but completely removed as if they never existed...

Could be because eBay doesn't allow sales of items which aren't guaranteed to be shipped within 30 days of the sale, but who knows? Thought it was interesting.

[bretttheleofan]

Definitely what is,the seller that I bought it from gave m the offer at 300 and then it disappeared. I wrote him and he said eBay was taking them down. He relisted it so I could get them with my offer.

Originally Posted by ScratchTheHotSpot

For some reason... not sure why... The eBay listings for these sets have been disappearing rapidly in the past few hours.

Not just "this item has ended early", or whatever.. but completely removed as if they never existed...

Could be because eBay doesn't allow sales of items which aren't guaranteed to be shipped within 30 days of the sale, but who knows? Thought it was interesting.