Star Wars: Episode IX

[sdp]

Now that this **** is finished, I actually want to watch a movie with Finn/Poe/Ben/Rey in their own adventures, they succeeded in making them feel like characters for the most part like the original gang that could go on adventures. I think all 3 films could be edited into one 2 hour decent Episode VII that sets up the next two movies now that the empire is cleaned up for good, perhaps Palpatine like in the EU wanted to go against a force like the Yuuzhan Vong and boom you have episodes VIII and IX with some new ideas.

Of course in a perfect world I would've preferred the the Whills/midiclorian storyline that Lucas had planned. No matter how bad at least it would've told a story that wasn't recycled.

Since the ending of this film is pretty much:
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Spoiler:

Return of the Jedi's ending done all over again but it doesn't feel like anything big was actually stopped unlike ROTJ since it's just a rehash

Ranking still stands:
IV>VI>V>I>II>III>IX>VIII>VII

[Andrew NDB]

Things I think will bother me when I see it...

Spoiler:

* The whole sequel trilogy and nobody new gets the Force except Rey, Kylo, and the random kid at the end of TLJ that's never seen again. Really, not one other character?

* Just the same old starships. X-Wings, Y-Wings, Star Destroyers. Nothing has changed in 30 years.

* Just the same two people half-heartedly lightsaber fighting each other twice in three movies. No other lightsaber fights of any kind.

* Emperor Palpatine comes back to almost immediately die. No lightsaber fight.

* No adequate explanation for why Rey has always been so powerful. No, "she's Palpatine's granddaughter" isn't good enough by itself.

* No word on how the First Order funded/had the resources to build up a whole fleet that outnumbers the New Republic and Resistance fleet. Also no word on how Palpatine did the same thing with a second fleet.

* No word on how Palpatine comes back to life.

* Millennium Falcon still being chased into tight corridors it has to manuever through while shooting at TIE Fighters. This has been done over and over again.

* The last movie of the saga and no Anakin, Obi-Wan or Yoda Force ghosts? wtf? Apparently in the movie, when you see Han talking to Kylo, that was a reshoot. Hayden Christiansen actually was originally there as Anakin, but it got yanked.

* A seemingly inherent embarassment about the prequels. For everything JJ was talking about wanting to make 9 as the 9th chapter in a story, honoring everything in the prequels and OT, you wouldn't know it by the finished product. Like, wtf happened to Coruscant? How about solving the mystery of how Anakin was created? (they had the perfect chance to do so here) How is this bringing things full circle at all? Bringing back Palpatine to kill him again doesn't do anything.

[neatoman]

Alright, I've seen this movie now. It's trash, complete and utter dung. This kind of feels like a spoiler even though the movie starts out with it and thus barely qualifies as one but for the sake of not upsetting anyone:

Spoiler:

This pile of crap literally opens up with the revelation that the First Order was just step 1 in CYBORG ZOMBIE PALPATINE BROUGHT BACK FROM THE GRAVE BY A SECRET SITH CABAL's plan to restore the empire. And Snoke was just A SOULLESS PUPPET BODY FOR PALPATINE TO USE REMOTELY.

Tell me, do you honestly think a movie that literally starts off with a bunch of awful retcons has even the slightest chance of being half-way decent? The entire movie is like watching a train wreck cause other train wrecks, it's astonishing how bad this movie really is. Nothing about it works. It doesn't piss me off but it might actually be the worst written and edited movie in the franchise. There's a bunch of fake out deaths, pointless plot threads, full of retcons that would make a Marvel editor blush and just really bizarre turns.

Ever read a really ****** comic book storyline like the Clone Saga? Rise of Skywalker is kind of to Star Wars what the Clone Saga is to Spider-Man. A convoluted, retcon heavy mess of a story.

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

No interest in seeing the movie (i decided to read the entire plot on Wikipedia just so I never have to see it) after the disappointment of VII (saw it once in the Cinema and again on Blu Ray) and the travesty of VIII (which I only watched once on Blu Ray, and I'm never seeing it again)

I then went back to watch the other 6 films. The only one that disappointed was phantom Menace, but the rest I really enjoyed. Attack of the Clones even improved this time around.

Currently, ranking them would go like this:
V>IV>III>VI>II>I>VII>VIII

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by neatoman

Alright, I've seen this movie now. It's trash, complete and utter dung.

Did you buy a ticket to see it?

[Xav]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Spoiler:

How about solving the mystery of how Anakin was created? (they had the perfect chance to do so here)

They actually already did that in a comics.
https://screenrant.com/star-wars-ana...her-emperor/2/

[MikeandRaph87]

Spoiler:

Was anyone's theatre caught off guard by Ben kissing Rey? They are related and after the Leia kissing Luke to make Han jealous bit that was an odd choice.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87

Spoiler:

Was anyone's theatre caught off guard by Ben kissing Rey? They are related and after the Leia kissing Luke to make Han jealous bit that was an odd choice.

Are they related? It was my understanding that you are left believing that Rey is actually a Palpatine...

[Andrew NDB]

Yeah, no relation to Kylo.

[sdp]

The movie is worth watching, especially if you watched the horrible Ep7/8. It's a "we ****ed up, sorry, hope you like what we tried to do with what we got".

They still mess other things up but for the most part I think they got things right with the movie.

Originally Posted by IMJ

Are they related? It was my understanding that you are left believing that Rey is actually a Palpatine...

In the comics Palpatine basically is the one who created Anakin by dark side shennanigans had schmi skywalker become pregnant so in a way they are related sort of.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Things I think will bother me when I see it...

The comments I deleted are because those concerns are indeed legit, but for the other ones here are better answers:

Spoiler:

* The whole sequel trilogy and nobody new gets the Force except Rey, Kylo, and the random kid at the end of TLJ that's never seen again. Really, not one other character?
I'm not sure if it's a one off joke or if intentionally but Finn hints at being able to use the force

* No adequate explanation for why Rey has always been so powerful. No, "she's Palpatine's granddaughter" isn't good enough by itself.
The sort of explain this one as well and not just with the info that she's palpatine's granddaughter

* No word on how the First Order funded/had the resources to build up a whole fleet that outnumbers the New Republic and Resistance fleet. Also no word on how Palpatine did the same thing with a second fleet.
This is a problem since Episode VII though

* No word on how Palpatine comes back to life.
They do mention dark sith science and cloning actually, Dark Empire basically became canon


* The last movie of the saga and no Anakin, Obi-Wan or Yoda Force ghosts? wtf? Apparently in the movie, when you see Han talking to Kylo, that was a reshoot. Hayden Christiansen actually was originally there as Anakin, but it got yanked. I didn't know about this, they either should've had everyone or no one

* A seemingly inherent embarassment about the prequels. For everything JJ was talking about wanting to make 9 as the 9th chapter in a story, honoring everything in the prequels and OT, you wouldn't know it by the finished product. Like, wtf happened to Coruscant? How about solving the mystery of how Anakin was created? (they had the perfect chance to do so here) How is this bringing things full circle at all? Bringing back Palpatine to kill him again doesn't do anything.
Didn't think about this but it's definitely true, also ironic how they were so concerned in not alienating fans by making something too close to the prequels in nature and created something far more hated

[Shark_Blade]

Audience gave Rise of Skywalker 89% rating on rottentomatoes
https://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/sta...e_of_skywalker

[sdp]

Spoilers ahead













I still hate that the main reason Rey is a palpatine is so they could give us a "surprise" and "gotcha", but it would've just been better to have the predictable Rey is a skywalker answer. I mean they could've just swallowed their pride and done it.

Take this into account, Kylo Ren ended up being an almost exact rehash of darth vader in the end with a redemption before dying. They didn't care to swallow their pride and do the predictable thing there.

Also remember when TFA was about to come out and they kept saying "Kylo isn't a sith, the sith are no more" etc, only for they to do a complete 180 and now all this movie they talk about the sith, I think it's the only prequel reference.

The whole plot just feels like something out of the cartoons.

[Andrew NDB]

They even said, even Serkis himself, "No, Snoke is not part of the Sith." Oops! Would've been far more interesting to just tow the line with Snoke and reveal him as Darth Plagueis, who survived being assassinated by Palpatine, his pupil. Have him be the who made Anakin and made Rey.

Spoiler:

Though maybe Snoke still could be Plagueis. Perhaps after killing his mentor, Palpatine uses clones of him to "wear" so he can truly feel superior to him.

Mostly things are sad because of Luke. All that struggle and no wife, no kids. Though I don't think they specifically ever said he didn't have a wife once, or kids out there... though if he did, you'd think he'd want to be protecting them and not just hanging with Porgs. And Kennedy seems obsessed with taking the Skywalkers off the board.

[AquaParade]

Edit: nvm.....

[Leo656]

Man, this sounds really bad.

[Andrew NDB]

Sidenote... isn't it funny how overreactionary the whole trilogy has been?

7 is overreactionary to the prequels to a point where JJ was just made to do a 4 remake. 8 was overreactionary to 7 with everyone having complained (rightly) that it was a remake of 4 (so they let him do whatever). 9 is overreactionary to 8 because nobody liked 8 and it made no one care about Solo, so enter in the test audiences and 3 different versions and Kennedy keeping creative control.

[Andrew NDB]

Yoda voice: "Mmm... ripped off, this was."

[Leo656]

That's actually pretty funny.

You're alright, You.

[Xav]

Originally Posted by sdp

Also remember when TFA was about to come out and they kept saying "Kylo isn't a sith, the sith are no more" etc, only for they to do a complete 180 and now all this movie they talk about the sith, I think it's the only prequel reference.

The Sith isn't a prequel reference, the term dates back as far as the rough draft for the original Star Wars.

[Andrew NDB]

Shesus... does this remind anyone of the final marketing of the last TMNT "film"? "Everything a fan wants! Bebop. Rocksteady. Krang. Pizza." Except the narrator here clearly doesn't even sound like he gives af.