Transformers Rise of The Beasts June 24, 2022

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

I saw it yesterday and enjoyed it, I'm very excited about the future of the Transformers franchise after that surprise ending.

Spoiler:

Noah Diaz goes to a job interview for what looked like a security job, And then finding out he's being recruited by the GI Joe, It appears that they know about the Transformers, and they are recruiting him because they know they would be a great help against this ongoing war between them against Cobra, and the Decepticons.

That's kind of interesting.....
Certainly seems like they dragged these things out long enough before doing this. That 1st Joe flick was absolutely horrible in every conceivable way. The 2nd one wasn't all there yet, but definitely closer to the mark in every way.

They just need to go grassroots and literally place the 80's properties on-screen almost 1:1.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Star Trek is very simple. Real Trek ended in 2005. Nothing afterward matters, except Picard season 3 being mostly in-line with at least the TNG movies.

Like I said, a giant cluster f*ck that doesn’t make sense unless you’re a hardcore Trekkie lol

Originally Posted by Sumac

I don't think it is an opinion majority would share, sadly.

This we can agree on

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Star Trek didn't so much as end as just fizzle out in 2005. The last time the original hot streak had a big climatic moment was the end of Deep Space Nine in 1999

The ending of Voyager was kinda epic

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by TheCanadiandrome

The ending of Voyager was kinda epic

It seems that way in hindsight. But have you watched that episode in a while? It's actually fairly small in scope. The Queen never leaves 1 room and only is lecturing evilly. The Future Janeway stuff is interesting, I guess.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

I saw it yesterday and enjoyed it, I'm very excited about the future of the Transformers franchise after that surprise ending.

Spoiler:

Noah Diaz goes to a job interview for what looked like a security job, And then finding out he's being recruited by the GI Joe, It appears that they know about the Transformers, and they are recruiting him because they know they would be a great help against this ongoing war between them against Cobra, and the Decepticons.

Couldn’t agree more

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

It seems that way in hindsight. But have you watched that episode in a while? It's actually fairly small in scope. The Queen never leaves 1 room and only is lecturing evilly. The Future Janeway stuff is interesting, I guess.

Be that as it may, and no haven’t seen it recently, it still holds up all these years later, I just found that in terms of Trek, Voyager had an epic ending compared to most Trek shows which, imo, kinda seems anticlimactic or just plain bad.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by TheCanadiandrome

The ending of Voyager was kinda epic

I...wouldn't go that far. The whole time Admiral Janeway had one over the Borg Queen and Voyager took out the one Borg vessel from the rear with a few photons. Then the crew barely react to returning home. Hardly epic.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

I...wouldn't go that far. The whole time Admiral Janeway had one over the Borg Queen and Voyager took out the one Borg vessel from the rear with a few photons. Then the crew barely react to returning home. Hardly epic.

Yeah I never honestly thought Voyager had the final season or final episode payoffs that it should have given the show.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by IMJ

Yeah I never honestly thought Voyager had the final season or final episode payoffs that it should have given the show.

There was reportedly a great deal of creative struggles behind the scenes that forced Ronald D Moore to quit the show, a lot of what he wanted to do with Voyager ended up being used in his version of Battlestar Galactica

Also, one of the show's two-parters, "Year of Hell" was at one point supposed to run a whole season

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by TheCanadiandrome

Be that as it may, and no haven’t seen it recently, it still holds up all these years later, I just found that in terms of Trek, Voyager had an epic ending compared to most Trek shows which, imo, kinda seems anticlimactic or just plain bad.

That's the reason I ask. Because for me, in my head I remembered the VOY series finale being super explosive and epic and all these things... until I rewatched it many years later. It's not a bad series finale, per se, but suddenly I realized how small and kinda cheap they went with it. It makes me kind of pissed now, honestly.

[IMJ]

The Year of Hell episodes and basically any episode that involved Starfleet somehow were always really, really good. But Voyager had a lot of uninteresting stuff going on. The Delta Flyer racing episode was pretty good.

[TheCanadiandrome]

What I was sayin is that Voyager was one of the few Trek shows that actually had a somewhat descent ending that didn’t leave fans scratching their heads going “that’s it?!” Cause let’s face it, TOS, TNG, Enterprise kinda just seemed like they ended on either a real bad cliff hanger or just ended on acount of being canceled. Even DS9 was anticlimactic. Any ways it’s kinda my fault this turned into a Trek discussion, sorry y’all lol

[ZariusTwo]

Rise of the Beasts ends it's theatrical run as the lowest-grossing TF movie

https://www.slashfilm.com/1366244/ri...formers-movie/

[Sumac]

Time to call Bay back?

[IMJ]

The problem here is that the Transformers movie "universe" is a mess.
They need to do a 100% hard reboot and skin the Transformers so that they look like the robot-modes from the cartoon, use somewhat appropriate vehicles and give the actual Transformers stronger character arcs instead of giving all of the development to the humans.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by IMJ

The problem here is that the Transformers movie "universe" is a mess.
They need to do a 100% hard reboot and skin the Transformers so that they look like the robot-modes from the cartoon, use somewhat appropriate vehicles and give the actual Transformers stronger character arcs instead of giving all of the development to the humans.

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Sorry couldn't control myself.

[Dpooly84]

Originally Posted by TigerClaw

I saw it yesterday and enjoyed it, I'm very excited about the future of the Transformers franchise after that surprise ending.

Spoiler:

Noah Diaz goes to a job interview for what looked like a security job, And then finding out he's being recruited by the GI Joe, It appears that they know about the Transformers, and they are recruiting him because they know they would be a great help against this ongoing war between them against Cobra, and the Decepticons.

I was happily surprised by the end and Noah was a good character I wanted him to destroy the half of the key. I was surprised Mirage got such a big role, but he seemed to out bumble the Bee in this one. I tried watching it while going to bed and ended up watching the whole movie lol

[TheCanadiandrome]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Rise of the Beasts ends it's theatrical run as the lowest-grossing TF movie

https://www.slashfilm.com/1366244/ri...formers-movie/

Yet still feeling a sequel nonetheless

[Jeff]

This movie sucked but wasn't the worst of the franchise. I only watched for the Beast Wars characters and was moderately entertained.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by Sumac

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Sorry couldn't control myself.

Not gonna happen, huh?

[TheCanadiandrome]

Originally Posted by Jeff

This movie sucked but wasn't the worst of the franchise. I only watched for the Beast Wars characters and was moderately entertained.

Even if it was a missed opportunity to get the voice actors from the cartoon, it’s like they didn’t even care to try. At least get Optimus Primals voice actor

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by IMJ

Not gonna happen, huh?

Throughout this years they've proven, they don't really care about any semblance of continuity between the movies or character arcs.
They just blockbusters about robots tearing each other apart and some ****** human drama.

The problem, that robots tearing each other apart becomes less and less interesting from one movie to the other and human drama, stays consistently ****** and boring throughout the years.

I say, I take one single Pacific Rim over 5-6 TF movies.