Transformers Rise of The Beasts June 24, 2022

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by jignat

TF and TMNT both mostly have bad theatrical movies, but it seems TF is beginning to pull itself out of the gutter.
Can TMNT do the same?

I think the sci-fi robot death-match and rampant city destruction pulls in more general public support as "spectacle" than Turtles doing karate. And while you always need to appeal to your base-fans as grassroots support, it's the general public that pushes these theatrical numbers over the top.

[TigerClaw]

[TigerClaw]

The first clip has been released.

[ZariusTwo]

Just got back from the movie

Spoiler:

With a plot lifted from a thousand Playstation games, the film crams a lot into it's run time, a lot of characters that are set up early are dropped in favour of moving Noah from A to B in very short order. The only reason his brother's illness is even a thing is for a pay-off at the very end when the Joes promise to take care of his health issues, but even that didn't seem necccersary.

I thought Airazor might have been revived like Bee was with the Energon Jesus Juice, but nope. Guess that makes yet another Transformers franchise that just does away with her. She was killed while in her Tigerhawk form back in Beast Wars as well.

The Maximals got short-changed. Primal I don't think had much of an arc, him cooperating with humans does more to serve Prime's story. Prime and Noah's parallel journeys complimented the other, I liked that Noah had an ulterior motive to help the Autobots, planning to betray them and destroy the transwarp key...but I wish his change of heart didn't have to involve Prime pleading with him not to take action.

I still think they should have kept Unicron out of the trailers, it sets fans up for disappointment in that you never see his alt mode, and his VA is no Orson Wells and comes off as too basic in performance. I did like it when he 'tortured' Scoruge though, reminded me of the animated movie.

Bee samples some of Leonard Nimoy for one line, and Roddy Piper for another.



Mirage merging with Noah had me a little perplexed, then I remembered mass shifting and was glad someone remembered it also.



The Terrorcons were too undercooked, Scourge might as well have been the only one there, he's also the only one who gets to inflict major damage on both Autobot and Maximal

[TheCanadiandrome]

I’m excited to see this

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Just got back from the movie

Spoiler:

With a plot lifted from a thousand Playstation games, the film crams a lot into it's run time, a lot of characters that are set up early are dropped in favour of moving Noah from A to B in very short order. The only reason his brother's illness is even a thing is for a pay-off at the very end when the Joes promise to take care of his health issues, but even that didn't seem necccersary.

I thought Airazor might have been revived like Bee was with the Energon Jesus Juice, but nope. Guess that makes yet another Transformers franchise that just does away with her. She was killed while in her Tigerhawk form back in Beast Wars as well.

The Maximals got short-changed. Primal I don't think had much of an arc, him cooperating with humans does more to serve Prime's story. Prime and Noah's parallel journeys complimented the other, I liked that Noah had an ulterior motive to help the Autobots, planning to betray them and destroy the transwarp key...but I wish his change of heart didn't have to involve Prime pleading with him not to take action.

I still think they should have kept Unicron out of the trailers, it sets fans up for disappointment in that you never see his alt mode, and his VA is no Orson Wells and comes off as too basic in performance. I did like it when he 'tortured' Scoruge though, reminded me of the animated movie.

Bee samples some of Leonard Nimoy for one line, and Roddy Piper for another.



Mirage merging with Noah had me a little perplexed, then I remembered mass shifting and was glad someone remembered it also.



The Terrorcons were too undercooked, Scourge might as well have been the only one there, he's also the only one who gets to inflict major damage on both Autobot and Maximal

So is there any continuity at all anymore in these movies? Or are they just rebooting every flick as a different period piece now?

[TheCanadiandrome]

I feel the previous movie before this one had continuity

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by TheCanadiandrome

I feel the previous movie before this one had continuity

Bumblebee was supposed to be a prequel, but due to low box office of Bayformers and they continuity being a cluster**** it was made into a reboot.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by IMJ

So is there any continuity at all anymore in these movies? Or are they just rebooting every flick as a different period piece now?

I don't know why they set it in the 1990s...it didn't 'feel' like it was shot in the 90s one bit, and the hip hop 90s soundtrack they played is pretty much stuff that's played all the time in modern day anyway. Other than that and an MMPR t-shirt worn by the younger brother, it plays like any other 21st century movie. There's not that much in the way of 90s fashion either.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by TheCanadiandrome

I feel the previous movie before this one had continuity

There are a lot of continuity subtleties across these films that are questionable. But then you have some continuity disasters, such as in the first Transformers movie they literally show Optimus Prime crashing to Earth in a strange, skeletal form before taking on the modern Truck with flames. But in Bumblebee, 20 years earlier they show Prime in his 80's truck form already on Earth. And then you have the whole Starscream thing, and characters appearing or dying across timelines.

There's more, but it can even be hard to track because the continuity is so messy.

[ZariusTwo]

Bumblebee rebooted the timeline.

[IMJ]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Bumblebee rebooted the timeline.

So basically Bumblebee was a "hard" reboot and this new movie is in continuity with that?

And the original Bay timeline ended with The Last Knight?

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by IMJ

So basically Bumblebee was a "hard" reboot and this new movie is in continuity with that?

And the original Bay timeline ended with The Last Knight?

Yeah, Last Knight ended with the reveal Unicron was the Earth, but they've abandoned that with Rise of the Beasts and established Unicron is a planetoid Transformer separate from Earth

[Coola Yagami]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Yeah, Last Knight ended with the reveal Unicron was the Earth

SAY WHAT?????

[TheCanadiandrome]

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

SAY WHAT?????

Ye it was a rediculous plot point

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

Yeah, Last Knight ended with the reveal Unicron was the Earth, but they've abandoned that with Rise of the Beasts and established Unicron is a planetoid Transformer separate from Earth

Just like the cartoon movie

Originally Posted by IMJ

There are a lot of continuity subtleties across these films that are questionable. But then you have some continuity disasters, such as in the first Transformers movie they literally show Optimus Prime crashing to Earth in a strange, skeletal form before taking on the modern Truck with flames. But in Bumblebee, 20 years earlier they show Prime in his 80's truck form already on Earth. And then you have the whole Starscream thing, and characters appearing or dying across timelines.

There's more, but it can even be hard to track because the continuity is so messy.

Just like Star Trek, one giant cluster f**k lol

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by TheCanadiandrome

Just like the cartoon movie

Same also as with Armada/Energon

Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

SAY WHAT?????

This take on Unicron actually originated in the cartoon Transformers: Prime and worked it's way into the Last Knight due to Kurtzman being involved with both

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by TheCanadiandrome

Just like Star Trek, one giant cluster f**k lol

Star Trek is very simple. Real Trek ended in 2005. Nothing afterward matters, except Picard season 3 being mostly in-line with at least the TNG movies.

[Sumac]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Star Trek is very simple. Real Trek ended in 2005. Nothing afterward matters, except Picard season 3 being mostly in-line with at least the TNG movies.

I don't think it is an opinion majority would share, sadly.

[ZariusTwo]

Star Trek didn't so much as end as just fizzle out in 2005. The last time the original hot streak had a big climatic moment was the end of Deep Space Nine in 1999

[TigerClaw]

I saw it yesterday and enjoyed it, I'm very excited about the future of the Transformers franchise after that surprise ending.

Spoiler:

Noah Diaz goes to a job interview for what looked like a security job, And then finding out he's being recruited by the GI Joe, It appears that they know about the Transformers, and they are recruiting him because they know they would be a great help against this ongoing war between them against Cobra, and the Decepticons.