Which Turtle is More Likely to Go to the Dark Side - Page 2

*XERO* · 10-26-2005, 07:03 PM

No problem there, heretic. Just going by the common references that it applies to. Thanks for correcting me.

*heretic888* · 10-26-2005, 07:10 PM

No worries.

*Sage Ninja* · 11-17-2005, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Mikeys_in_tha_hizouse

However, what Mikey is passionate about (the greater good), may be what keeps him from going to the darkside. I say Mikey is the least likely to go to the darkside.

Now in most mediums I would have to agree. But from what i've seen of new toon Michaelangelo, I could actually picture him going to the dark side. Unlike most versions of him that i've seen where he is just good, I can see a bit of a edge to new Toon Mikey.

New toon Mikey has a manipulative side to him that isn't all good, and his nature is rather deceptive.

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Of course, Mirage Mikey has demonstrated a "darker" quality on occassion that has added depth to his overall character.

Now that is the sort of thing that intrigues me because from I've read of the synpis on the official site, I don't get that sence. In what way has he demestrated a "darker quality".

Blondus · 11-18-2005, 03:06 AM

I would say Mikey all in all dont have the personality to go all the way over to the dark side. I can imagine him going quite far, but he has a limit where he wont go any further. Mikey can have a tendency to choose easy paths. That combined with his passionate mind, as mentioned above, can easily lead to the dark side. Though he has a general awareness of good and evil that prohibits him to go to far.

Turtle Dove · 11-19-2005, 11:29 AM

After today's TMNT episode,I have to say Leo would be most likely to go dark. He got mad at how the job was "Half" done and walked off ticked.
I think Leo would go dark perhaps because he is letting it consume himself. He is not satisfyed with half-no he wants it all and looks like he'd do ANYTHING to achive it.

Raph is calming down a bit-but I think maybe he'd go dark depending on what the situation was like like if his family and friends where killed. Then he'd let the hate and angry consume him.

Mikey seems too pure hearted and Don is just too sweet as well.

Jo269976 · 11-19-2005, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikey's Girl

After today's TMNT episode,I have to say Leo would be most likely to go dark. He got mad at how the job was "Half" done and walked off ticked.
I think Leo would go dark perhaps because he is letting it consume himself. He is not satisfyed with half-no he wants it all and looks like he'd do ANYTHING to achive it.

Raph is calming down a bit-but I think maybe he'd go dark depending on what the situation was like like if his family and friends where killed. Then he'd let the hate and angry consume him.

Mikey seems too pure hearted and Don is just too sweet as well.

Leo would only turn evil if Splinter died or something, but Raph prob.
wouldn't turn evil, he's actually quite pure hearted

**Jester** · 11-19-2005, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mikey's Girl

After today's TMNT episode,I have to say Leo would be most likely to go dark. He got mad at how the job was "Half" done and walked off ticked.
I think Leo would go dark perhaps because he is letting it consume himself. He is not satisfyed with half-no he wants it all and looks like he'd do ANYTHING to achive it.

Raph is calming down a bit-but I think maybe he'd go dark depending on what the situation was like like if his family and friends where killed. Then he'd let the hate and angry consume him.

Mikey seems too pure hearted and Don is just too sweet as well.

Leo's anger at losing, again will only make him take out those evils more fearsly...not a sign he's gonna go all darth Vader on us, like Rulez's has said, only if Splinter died and then he'd be more a anti-hero than a true villian. Like Batman or Punisher.

ammaranth · 11-21-2005, 12:11 AM

At first it might seem like Raph would be the one to go to the dark side, since he seems to walk a bit of a darker path than the other turtles anyway, but I think Leo would be more likely. Since we're using the whole "dark side" terminology anyway, Leo's recent behavior is reminiscent of Annakin in the latest Star Wars movies. He's obsessed with protecting his friends, and while his intentions are good, he is still young and not quite mature enough to make the right decisions yet. Add to that the pressure of being the "good guy" all the time, along with all the cardboard cutout stereotypes that go along with it, and the fact that his role as the leader of the group isolates him and makes it difficult for him to share any of what's boiling inside of him, and you get one angsty turtle.

Ammaranth

*shuriken* · 11-23-2005, 01:28 AM

Personally I think that all the turtles can be consumed by the "Dark side". Here's my TMNT ratings from one to ten(new series)
Donatello-4-He is a good hearted and good natured person, yes. The only problem is his deep passion for the power of knowledge. If he gets obsessed by that search for knowledge and power he may very well go insane in this persuit. But i don't think this is likely due to his kind nature and good Heart.
Michelangelo-5-Good natured fun loving guy right, abit cocky and selfish at times but still anice guy. I think since he is the one that desires more atention he could fall in with the wrong crowd and go 'bad' without realising, plus his carelessness could also trigger a bad side.
Raphael-6-He is caring of his friends and family and sometimes too passionate about fighting. I think if he get's fed up with Leo and leaves hecould do a lot of damage. Then again he does have a high sense of morality and since his fear is becoming the villain I think he tries his best to steer clear of the path of the "Dark Side".
Leonardo-6-He is the best fighter,honorable, most persistent, a good leader and somewhat egotistical. The perfect qualities for a potential villain. Yes he is a good guy and would protect his brothers and friends no matter what, and that may very well lead him to the ''Dark Side''. We have seen this in the previous TMNT episodes, one example is the whole "half wasn't good enough" kinda like Shredder's "I do not tolerate failure".But seenig as his sense of right and wrong is so strong, I find this unlikely to happen.

trexmaster · 11-23-2005, 02:41 AM

I think Raph is the most vulnerable to "turning to evil", being the cocky, impulsive egomaniac of the Turtles. Leo may come close, because even though he's calmer, he's still egoistical (hence his status as leader even though he's too rigid for a "soft" martial art like ninjutsu). Donatello and Michelangelo would be much harder, with Mikey being the sociable, compassionate one and with Don as the pacifist.

However, if you're an unusually imaginative or charismatic "evil missionary", anyone, even Mike or Don, could be vulnerable.

*Sage Ninja* · 11-28-2005, 11:39 PM

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Of course, Mirage Mikey has demonstrated a "darker" quality on occassion that has added depth to his overall character.

you know every one has made some very interesting points about the turtles characters and how they are vulnerable to moral corruption. But this statment above about how Michaelangelo has demestrated a "darker" quality on occasion that has given depth to his character is interesting.

Why is it that a character having a potentical dark side gives that character appeal? Do you think having a dark sode give a character depth and makes that character more intersting. I know that i've never really liked characters that are too good and saintly. For some reason those charcters annoy me and makes them seem kind of fake to me.

Do you think characters that have potentical "dark" sides make them more realistic to you. Do you think it makes them three deminticalnal?

10-26-2005, 07:03 PM	#21
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10-26-2005, 07:10 PM	#22
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11-18-2005, 03:06 AM	#24
Blondus Thug Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Deep down beyond Devil Reef Posts: 98	I would say Mikey all in all dont have the personality to go all the way over to the dark side. I can imagine him going quite far, but he has a limit where he wont go any further. Mikey can have a tendency to choose easy paths. That combined with his passionate mind, as mentioned above, can easily lead to the dark side. Though he has a general awareness of good and evil that prohibits him to go to far. __________________ Stupendous and unheard-of splendors await me below, and I shall seek them soon. Ia-R'lyehl Cihuiha flgagnl id Ia! No, I shall not shoot myself - I cannot be made to shoot myself!

11-19-2005, 11:29 AM	#25
Turtle Dove Stone Warrior Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: In Don's workshop Posts: 854	After today's TMNT episode,I have to say Leo would be most likely to go dark. He got mad at how the job was "Half" done and walked off ticked. I think Leo would go dark perhaps because he is letting it consume himself. He is not satisfyed with half-no he wants it all and looks like he'd do ANYTHING to achive it. Raph is calming down a bit-but I think maybe he'd go dark depending on what the situation was like like if his family and friends where killed. Then he'd let the hate and angry consume him. Mikey seems too pure hearted and Don is just too sweet as well. __________________ ]~You'll always be #1 in my heart~ 1..2...3...4..Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.....

11-21-2005, 12:11 AM	#28
ammaranth Mouser Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Beside two rivers. Posts: 9	At first it might seem like Raph would be the one to go to the dark side, since he seems to walk a bit of a darker path than the other turtles anyway, but I think Leo would be more likely. Since we're using the whole "dark side" terminology anyway, Leo's recent behavior is reminiscent of Annakin in the latest Star Wars movies. He's obsessed with protecting his friends, and while his intentions are good, he is still young and not quite mature enough to make the right decisions yet. Add to that the pressure of being the "good guy" all the time, along with all the cardboard cutout stereotypes that go along with it, and the fact that his role as the leader of the group isolates him and makes it difficult for him to share any of what's boiling inside of him, and you get one angsty turtle. Ammaranth __________________ The painter is not the painting.

11-23-2005, 01:28 AM	#29
shuriken Second City Shinobi Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chi-town Posts: 4,182	Personally I think that all the turtles can be consumed by the "Dark side". Here's my TMNT ratings from one to ten(new series) Donatello-4-He is a good hearted and good natured person, yes. The only problem is his deep passion for the power of knowledge. If he gets obsessed by that search for knowledge and power he may very well go insane in this persuit. But i don't think this is likely due to his kind nature and good Heart. Michelangelo-5-Good natured fun loving guy right, abit cocky and selfish at times but still anice guy. I think since he is the one that desires more atention he could fall in with the wrong crowd and go 'bad' without realising, plus his carelessness could also trigger a bad side. Raphael-6-He is caring of his friends and family and sometimes too passionate about fighting. I think if he get's fed up with Leo and leaves hecould do a lot of damage. Then again he does have a high sense of morality and since his fear is becoming the villain I think he tries his best to steer clear of the path of the "Dark Side". Leonardo-6-He is the best fighter,honorable, most persistent, a good leader and somewhat egotistical. The perfect qualities for a potential villain. Yes he is a good guy and would protect his brothers and friends no matter what, and that may very well lead him to the ''Dark Side''. We have seen this in the previous TMNT episodes, one example is the whole "half wasn't good enough" kinda like Shredder's "I do not tolerate failure".But seenig as his sense of right and wrong is so strong, I find this unlikely to happen. __________________ Some things are better left unsaid. This isn't one of them

11-23-2005, 02:41 AM	#30
trexmaster Thug Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 55	I think Raph is the most vulnerable to "turning to evil", being the cocky, impulsive egomaniac of the Turtles. Leo may come close, because even though he's calmer, he's still egoistical (hence his status as leader even though he's too rigid for a "soft" martial art like ninjutsu). Donatello and Michelangelo would be much harder, with Mikey being the sociable, compassionate one and with Don as the pacifist. However, if you're an unusually imaginative or charismatic "evil missionary", anyone, even Mike or Don, could be vulnerable.