Top 5 delusions in the TMNT universe - Page 5

*Buslady* · 10-09-2006, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by KROW

Off topic, you say? What's more delusional than the TMNT having male genitalia?

The defense rests.

You know, those bits are what makes them boys. Without them, they're "ITs"...neither boy or girl so they aren't sons or brothers.
They say they are sons, brothers, boys, male mutants, so it's not delusional that they have those bits; those bits are out of sight though.

comet_an_me · 10-09-2006, 03:21 PM

my top 5 are:
1. how does donatello get all the money for his inventions/reserch?
2. its always a full moon when there out side.
3. aprils shop all ways gets broken into/blown up
4. micky always wants to run away from danger (which seems to be the better idea) but his brothers dont listen and run into it.
5. in the second lair the tmnt seemed to have a bout 12 tvs always on the same channel, wtf?

*Ecto Jedi* · 10-09-2006, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Buslady

You know, those bits are what makes them boys. Without them, they're "ITs"...neither boy or girl so they aren't sons or brothers.
They say they are sons, brothers, boys, male mutants, so it's not delusional that they have those bits; those bits are out of sight though.

You know, it is a cartoon.

*KROW* · 10-09-2006, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by onyx

KROW, don't talk to me like I see a forum for the first time, please

I very well know how threads drift away from the initial topic, trust me, I know. It bugs me because there is a lot more to say on topic and it could have made a nice and fun thread, these were my intentions. Don't get me wrong, I don't blame anyone in particular for it and I'm not sad or angry or whatever you think I am when you're telling me to lighten up. Ecto Jedi made a comment about the turtle genitals discussion and I saw an opportunity to share my opinion on this kind of discussion. That's all, I said that I won't bother you anymore, but you decided that my so-called anger is more important to discuss than turtle genitals

I know you're an old timer here and I'm relatively new, but that doesn't mean that I'm not used to other forums. In fact, there are quite a few communities where I post and I've been there for a long time. I know how it happens

I was just sharing my opinion, like you all do, that's all.

Well, I didn't assume you were angry. Mainly, I just thought you were taking it a bit too seriously. But, since you've explained you're not, then there's nothing wrong.

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Originally Posted by Buslady

You know, those bits are what makes them boys. Without them, they're "ITs"...neither boy or girl so they aren't sons or brothers.
They say they are sons, brothers, boys, male mutants, so it's not delusional that they have those bits; those bits are out of sight though.

I think it's delusional for characters like the TMNT to even have the word "genitals" synonymous with them, seeing as how they weren't initially created for procreation, but for superheroics. They have tails in the comics, but they're referred to as tails, not penises.

*gobo* · 10-09-2006, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Buslady

Plastrons do not go up the butt...
and how I felt that it was pointless not giving them tails, turtles have tails and that's a factoid. They look silly without them.

But... Who can say that humanoid mutant turtles are supposed to have tails? My pet humanoid mutant turtle doesn't.

*Warhorse* · 10-09-2006, 09:55 PM

my top 5 are:
1. how does donatello get all the money for his inventions/reserch? (From collecting the royalties from the TMNT franchise.)
2. its always a full moon when there out side. (Most weird things happen during a full mooon, why should the TMNT world be any different?)
3. aprils shop all ways gets broken into/blown up (Because the girl has some seriously bad karma!)
4. micky always wants to run away from danger (which seems to be the better idea) but his brothers dont listen and run into it. (Because Mikey is obviously the smarter one of the group, and cherish's his life)
5. in the second lair the tmnt seemed to have a bout 12 tvs always on the same channel, wtf? Well, maybe they didn't have the money for surround sound, so this was their best bet!)

*shuriken* · 10-09-2006, 10:55 PM

Here are mine.
1-in the old toon they never had their weapons with them and when they needed them they suddenly appeared.
2-The Henchmen(Foot, Triceratons, thugs,Purple Dragons) can't fight.Foot ninja would at least be able to touch them, Imean who the hell trains them anyway?
3-why don't they just mutate some other 16 year old turtles and have themselves some girlfriends...oh wait there's no more ooze right? sucks for them.
4-everything is breakable with a ninja weapon.
5-short guys with mittens and a curved back and with beanies on their green heads are perfectly normal in New York.
my theory on the whole genital thing is that the plastron is retractable sort of like a door, so whenever they have to sh*t or p*ss they just let it retract and let it out. I think the whole Plastorn in that area is used to protect their genitals from attack so that works for me.

comet_an_me · 10-10-2006, 02:25 AM

i was at my grandparents one night and they were whatchin a doc on martial arts cant remember when it was a gud couple of years ago.... but any way the insructor was given a lesson and one of his pupils kicked him in his genitals but the instructor just stood there not bent over in pain or anyfink.
then when the instructor was in the interview he said that he can suck the genitals in to his body...yes this is real...then reporter the kicked him as hard as he can but didnt caurse any pain...not even a flinch... then the instructor said that the reporter could "feel" for them and he did and said that there was nufink there!!!!!!!!

*gobo* · 10-10-2006, 02:34 AM

And, I thought turtle genitalia was off-topic...

*Sewer Bull* · 10-10-2006, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by comet_an_me

i was at my grandparents one night and they were whatchin a doc on martial arts cant remember when it was a gud couple of years ago.... but any way the insructor was given a lesson and one of his pupils kicked him in his genitals but the instructor just stood there not bent over in pain or anyfink.
then when the instructor was in the interview he said that he can suck the genitals in to his body...yes this is real...then reporter the kicked him as hard as he can but didnt caurse any pain...not even a flinch... then the instructor said that the reporter could "feel" for them and he did and said that there was nufink there!!!!!!!!

Wow... So many retarded comments coming to my head right now...

Will I sound gay if I say that... I wish to see... his junk... being sucked... into his body... and disappearing there...

That must be just gruesome.

*Buslady* · 10-10-2006, 08:55 AM

humans are the most exposed of all the animals. not even the other apes or primates are that exposed

i dunno about nuts but the wang might be able to be sucked in...'course im notta guy, i dunno hahaa sounds freaking WEIRD though

*Ecto Jedi* · 10-10-2006, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Buslady

i dunno about nuts but the wang might be able to be sucked in...

I'm pretty sure it can't.

comet_an_me · 10-10-2006, 02:54 PM

well what i saw was very convincing not saying its true but why would they show it on a documentry. when the reporter "felt" for what wasnt there he said that he had nufick there....nufink at all

*Sewer Bull* · 10-10-2006, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by comet_an_me

well what i saw was very convincing not saying its true but why would they show it on a documentry. when the reporter "felt" for what wasnt there he said that he had nufick there....nufink at all

Maybe it was a mockumentary.

*Sage Ninja* · 10-10-2006, 03:30 PM

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Leo has an accent cuz Michael Sinterniklaas (his VA) is Dutch.

American born or actually born out of the country? If he was born out of the country then I really have to give props to Michael Sinternikilaas for being able to sound as Amercian sounding as he does.

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You do have a point - just as I could see Mikey adopting a surfer twang (which he has very little of in the new show; it's most apparent in the first few episodes) so he'd sound cool, it's not a stretch of the imagination for Raph to start using a Brooklyn accent because it makes him sound tough. Especially since he seems to like this "tough guy" persona he projects.

Yeah I noticed that in new toon Mikey, that he had a bit of a suffer twang going on. I'm stoked that he got rid of it, because It just alittle bit dated now that we are in the 21'st century. If you'll notice New toon Raphal's accent was more prominent in the first few episodes, now its more tones down.

And I recently watched some old toon episdes and old toon Raphael does have a bit of a New Yorky way of speaking if you listen close enough. Just watch Pizza by the Shred and yoy'll see what I'm talking about.

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Though I have yet to detect an accent in Leo - he says some things a little "funny," but individuals can have quirks like that, even considering that his VA isn't necessarily American. It must be very slight.

its most prominent when he says his brothers full names, espcially when he says "Michaelangelo" or when he yells. Just listen carefully. I know I'm not imagining it.

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I think that TV probably did train them to speak more "American" sounding English, but when they learned it from Splinter, they were probably unaware of the concept of an "accent" and mimicked him until they were exposed to outside English-speakers. And that might be cute... little Japanese-accented kid-Turtles. Or maybe Splinter taught them Japanese first and they learned English later? Either way, it would have been the same way for kids of foreign-born people - it's the other kids at school/other people outside the home that they end up matching accents with. And there's a certain age after which killing an accent is really hard to do. Considering the Turtles' limited exposure to the outside world before they were teenagers, it has to be TV.

You I've always wondered how the turtles speak so...normal. I wouyld think that being isolated as they are that their would be some quirks to their speech. Or words that they made up to express them selves. "What the Shell" seems to be the only variation to their speech.

*Buslady* · 10-10-2006, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by shuriken

my theory on the whole genital thing is that the plastron is retractable sort of like a door, so whenever they have to sh*t or p*ss they just let it retract and let it out. I think the whole Plastorn in that area is used to protect their genitals from attack so that works for me.

with all due respect, that's the funniest thing I ever heard.

Leonardo Mystic · 10-10-2006, 08:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Masked Ninja

Though I have yet to detect an accent in Leo - he says some things a little "funny," but individuals can have quirks like that, even considering that his VA isn't necessarily American. It must be very slight.

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Originally Posted by Sage Ninja

its most prominent when he says his brothers full names, espcially when he says "Michaelangelo" or when he yells. Just listen carefully. I know I'm not imagining it.

Leo does have a slight accent, and you can detect it when he pronounces or says certain things, and especially when his voice changes pitch. I think the accent fits his character, and adds to his charm.

When you hear Mike, his VA, in person, his normal voice is very close to how he speaks for Leo. *laughs* He was trying to pronounce how the right way to say anime at the con I went to last month to see him again, and it was just too cute.

The line where Leo says to Raph "How do you search an entire city?" in that slightly high pitch in the episode "Lone Raph and Cub" is exactly how Mike sounds in real life.

*Sage Ninja* · 10-24-2006, 03:48 PM

When you are a voice actor and you are from out of the country, do they have to alter their speech so that they sound more American? that sounds incrediably hard to do ecpecially if you are not a native speaker of the language. I'm trying to learn a foreign language and it kills trying to get the accent right and the propper pronouciation down.

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1-in the old toon they never had their weapons with them and when they needed them they suddenly appeared.

they always carried their weapons on them, it was only occassonally that their weapons dissapeared on them for no reason. What I don't get is why the turtles in both old and new carry their waepons on them at all times, even when they are sleeping. What is it some ninja requirment to be able to sleep with a sword strapped to your back?

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why don't they just mutate some other 16 year old turtles and have themselves some girlfriends...oh wait there's no more ooze right? sucks for them.

because they are attracted to human females not mutated turtle females.And for that reason I guess the turtles have resigned them selves to being virgins all their life. I doubt that the turtles would find alien or mutant females attractive since they are more human by nature than turtle. Unless of course we are talking about Mirage Michaelangelo who will take a girl so along as she is female and willing, regardless of what specious she is

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4-everything is breakable with a ninja weapon.

They know how to weild them

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5-short guys with mittens and a curved back and with beanies on their green heads are perfectly normal in New York.

No one can tell they are not human when they dress in street clothes for the same reason why no can tell the that Super man is Clark Kent except that he's not wearing glasses and his hair isn't slick back any more. For the same reason why people can't tell that Serena/Usagi Sailor Moon even though the only thing that is diffrent is that her uniform shrunk and she is wearing a tiara. Its a cartoon thing, that so long as the main character is wearing something different from what he normally wears, he is unreconisable.

my delusions are:

1) how come the turtles can pull things out of their belt as if it where a poket. they can also put fairly bulky things into their belt and it stays they with out slipping. How do they do that?

2) How did the new toon turtles learn how to read and write and drive and all the other stuff they do? Both Splinter and the turtles where ordinary animals before mutation and wouldn't know how to read or write unless some one showed them. So did they learn?

*gobo* · 10-24-2006, 04:48 PM

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How did the new toon turtles learn how to read and write and drive and all the other stuff they do?

Sesame Street and videogames.

*Masked Ninja* · 10-24-2006, 06:59 PM

I hear ya on the weapon thing. How does Don's bo stay on him when all it's doing is being between his shell and his belt? Those things are smooth, and they slide easily. And how the heck does he just shove it back there without having to pull the belt out for it or anything?

I notice these issues the most when trying to draw TMNT. The long, straight nature of Leo and Don's weapons make it hard to arrange them on their backs and make it work. Leo's swords are going to be tangent to the curve of his shell, and that would have to get in the way if he does it in crisscrossed scabbards. The both-on-one-side of the comics would still be bulky, but cover less space.

Which is why I kinda like this art piece, "April" aside:
http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/5568054/
Don and Leo have these heavy-duty-looking straps that look like they could really hold those weapons in place.

Another thing, which applies mainly to animated versions: The Turtles' shells and sitting/lying down. Sometimes they cheat the shell to make them lying down in a more human-like position. Though most of the time they avoid the problem (new toon at least) by having them come to rest on their side or stomach.

Case in point: Raph in "Cousin Sid." It's like his shell is magically going through the couch to make him look more natural lying down. I think if I were the layout artist, I would have just propped him up with pillows or something for support. Nitpicky I s'pose, but I noticed it.

10-09-2006, 03:21 PM	#82
comet_an_me Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Royal Leamington Spa Posts: 737	my top 5 are: 1. how does donatello get all the money for his inventions/reserch? 2. its always a full moon when there out side. 3. aprils shop all ways gets broken into/blown up 4. micky always wants to run away from danger (which seems to be the better idea) but his brothers dont listen and run into it. 5. in the second lair the tmnt seemed to have a bout 12 tvs always on the same channel, wtf? __________________ The innocence of youth http://www.myspace.com/116334168

10-09-2006, 10:55 PM	#87
shuriken Second City Shinobi Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chi-town Posts: 4,182	Here are mine. 1-in the old toon they never had their weapons with them and when they needed them they suddenly appeared. 2-The Henchmen(Foot, Triceratons, thugs,Purple Dragons) can't fight.Foot ninja would at least be able to touch them, Imean who the hell trains them anyway? 3-why don't they just mutate some other 16 year old turtles and have themselves some girlfriends...oh wait there's no more ooze right? sucks for them. 4-everything is breakable with a ninja weapon. 5-short guys with mittens and a curved back and with beanies on their green heads are perfectly normal in New York. my theory on the whole genital thing is that the plastron is retractable sort of like a door, so whenever they have to sht or pss they just let it retract and let it out. I think the whole Plastorn in that area is used to protect their genitals from attack so that works for me. __________________ Some things are better left unsaid. This isn't one of them

10-10-2006, 02:25 AM	#88
comet_an_me Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Royal Leamington Spa Posts: 737	i was at my grandparents one night and they were whatchin a doc on martial arts cant remember when it was a gud couple of years ago.... but any way the insructor was given a lesson and one of his pupils kicked him in his genitals but the instructor just stood there not bent over in pain or anyfink. then when the instructor was in the interview he said that he can suck the genitals in to his body...yes this is real...then reporter the kicked him as hard as he can but didnt caurse any pain...not even a flinch... then the instructor said that the reporter could "feel" for them and he did and said that there was nufink there!!!!!!!! __________________ The innocence of youth http://www.myspace.com/116334168

10-10-2006, 02:34 AM	#89
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	And, I thought turtle genitalia was off-topic... __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

10-10-2006, 08:55 AM	#91
Buslady WingsOfDarkness! Perkele! Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: In 7803... Posts: 4,366	humans are the most exposed of all the animals. not even the other apes or primates are that exposed i dunno about nuts but the wang might be able to be sucked in...'course im notta guy, i dunno hahaa sounds freaking WEIRD though __________________

10-09-2006, 09:55 PM	#86
Warhorse Emperor Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Florida Posts: 5,544	my top 5 are: 1. how does donatello get all the money for his inventions/reserch? (From collecting the royalties from the TMNT franchise.) 2. its always a full moon when there out side. (Most weird things happen during a full mooon, why should the TMNT world be any different?) 3. aprils shop all ways gets broken into/blown up (Because the girl has some seriously bad karma!) 4. micky always wants to run away from danger (which seems to be the better idea) but his brothers dont listen and run into it. (Because Mikey is obviously the smarter one of the group, and cherish's his life) 5. in the second lair the tmnt seemed to have a bout 12 tvs always on the same channel, wtf? Well, maybe they didn't have the money for surround sound, so this was their best bet!)

10-10-2006, 02:54 PM	#93
comet_an_me Stone Warrior Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Royal Leamington Spa Posts: 737	well what i saw was very convincing not saying its true but why would they show it on a documentry. when the reporter "felt" for what wasnt there he said that he had nufick there....nufink at all __________________ The innocence of youth http://www.myspace.com/116334168

10-24-2006, 06:59 PM	#100
Masked Ninja Doodles TMNT for fun Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: sploshin' through some sewer... Posts: 2,137	I hear ya on the weapon thing. How does Don's bo stay on him when all it's doing is being between his shell and his belt? Those things are smooth, and they slide easily. And how the heck does he just shove it back there without having to pull the belt out for it or anything? I notice these issues the most when trying to draw TMNT. The long, straight nature of Leo and Don's weapons make it hard to arrange them on their backs and make it work. Leo's swords are going to be tangent to the curve of his shell, and that would have to get in the way if he does it in crisscrossed scabbards. The both-on-one-side of the comics would still be bulky, but cover less space. Which is why I kinda like this art piece, "April" aside: http://www.deviantart.com/deviation/5568054/ Don and Leo have these heavy-duty-looking straps that look like they could really hold those weapons in place. Another thing, which applies mainly to animated versions: The Turtles' shells and sitting/lying down. Sometimes they cheat the shell to make them lying down in a more human-like position. Though most of the time they avoid the problem (new toon at least) by having them come to rest on their side or stomach. Case in point: Raph in "Cousin Sid." It's like his shell is magically going through the couch to make him look more natural lying down. I think if I were the layout artist, I would have just propped him up with pillows or something for support. Nitpicky I s'pose, but I noticed it.