Transformers - Page 2

Raphael-sama · 11-20-2002, 07:15 PM

As it currently stands, of course. But it's not as cut and dry as that. Some might have nostalgia clouding their visage. And here's something to chew on: G1 was NOT a total American production. The movie and many of the better episodes were animated by Toei (the guys who do Dragonball and Digimon, in other words), wheras some of the really crappy episodes like Rebirth were done by Sun...rise? Bow? Sun something. Anyway. Give Armada time. The animation has been steadily improving, a result of Hasbro taking a more direct involvement with the show. There's 41 episodes left to judge the animation on.

-Badabing.

Shellfox · 11-20-2002, 07:43 PM

1. I have to put you in talks with a guy I know, you'd kill each other on details. (look for my hi I'm new thing go to the link, find Spegs, kill each other)

2. go past animation and look at plots, Armada is worthless. "the kids are right we have to protect the rain forest" Gag me with a fire hose. And lets not forget the last one, Corlos failing in love with a hologram he saw once, was unable to grasp the concep of her not being real despite putting his hand through her, and doing a 180 on sideing with any transformers and looking for minicons. Man they should have let him drowned

Raphael-sama · 11-20-2002, 08:27 PM

Ewww, no. I refuse to socialize with ANY Transfan from those message boards. I've been lurking all over for over a year now, and I've realized that the majority of Transfans are despicable ungrateful brats who worship Takara and get all hot and sweaty because Prime has to have short smokestacks in order for the thing to even hope to make a release over here.

*sigh* That's why I signed up here. The TMNT fandom is, thankfully, a small close knit group of people who don't bash every last thing Mirage, etc. throw out. (Then again, I wasn't here for TNM, soo...)

EDIT: Hold on, I forgot to bring something up. In case you haven't heard (and how could you?) UNICRON IS IN BLOODY ARMADA. TOY AND EVERYTHING. How can you NOT dig? If THAT doesn't make a plot worthwhile, I don't know WHAT does.

-Badabing.

Shellfox · 11-20-2002, 08:41 PM

been hearing that for a while, since before the minicon element was created. Not sure what to make of it yet. All the pics I've seen of people showing him have been BW Neo version prototype, which is so cool. But given how its been done up to now, they could make Grimlock sux. Price of the Armada Unicron is like $80, and they don't give pics of it so forget it.

*enigma-1* · 11-20-2002, 08:42 PM

Huh. Didn't know that Armada was such a hot debate. As a fellow T-fan, I've watched that and a lot of the others. From what I've seen, it's not so bad. I mean, each series has it's problems. That can't be helped.

Raphael-sama · 11-20-2002, 08:46 PM

The price is $66, according to Entertainment earth. It COULD be the BW Neo mold, but my heart tells me they'll make a new toy. (Which makes sense: the lead TF designer at Hasbro WANTS to make his own Unicron toy, and wants to do it justice) All I care about is that he has 75 minicon pegs. And that he turns into a planet.

Think about it this way. If there's anything the show is bringing across, it's that the Mini-cons are tiny, adorable, collectable WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION. One mini-con created a blast so powerful even MEGATRON couldn't withstand it-and he was the one firing it! A mini-con gestalt sword destroyed an entire civilization.

Think of what ALL the Mini-cons could do to the Chaos Bringer himself...

-Badabing.

*enigma-1* · 11-20-2002, 08:48 PM

Hmm, dangerous indeed.

Raphael-sama · 11-20-2002, 08:50 PM

Dangerous? Dangerous is an understatement, my friend. We're talking Invincible Hellspawn. We're talking Living(er, Metallized) Embodiment of Satan/Devil/whoever.

I guarantee ya, the final eps of Armada are gonna put Transformer issue #75 to SHAME.

-Badabing.

*enigma-1* · 11-20-2002, 08:52 PM

I believe that I'm inclined to agree w/ you on that one. Though I'm also hoping that it won't give any fans certain ideas. The TF forums already have enough players who think themselves gods. I hate to think of any that would try to pull something like that.

Shellfox · 11-20-2002, 09:01 PM

but think of the scale, Minicons=Human size, Tf are like grems to this guy in the movie, so he'd be what like 4 feet tall in bot mod if done to scale, probly more. How much could they really do to him.

Side note if he was that big, he'd beat the day lights out of those life sized barbies that keep showing up

*enigma-1* · 11-20-2002, 09:08 PM

That's one way to look at it.

The Lone Turtle · 11-21-2002, 02:01 AM

I can't wait for Armada to make it to Aus. The toys looks hella sweet!! I've haerd some bad things about the show, but I'm notgoing to say anything untill I see it myself. But I agree with Raphael-Sama, the last eps of Armada are gona kick ass

I just hope that Hasbro doesn't screw Unicron up

**HorseTechie** · 11-21-2002, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Raphael-sama

I still have faith in Armada. RiD got me into Transformers on a massive scale, and since Armada is more of the same, I know I'll be able to enjoy it once I manage to actually WATCH it. And hey, if what the rumours floating about now are true, then I bet when all is said and done we'll have a memorable-not perfect, but memorable, cartoon on our hands. And that's fine with me.

Dinogrrl, THANK YOU. You hit the nail right on the head. You know the reason why we're getting things of Armada and RiD ilk instead of more BW/BM style? Because no one LIKED BM. I thought it was relatively boring, but I never tore into it the way the fandom did in 1999-2000. *shudder* That's why they cancelled Transtech (which was going to continue off from BM) and adopted this Final Fantasy concept. No one liked BM! If a show continued from BM with Saladtron (which could of had SO much done with it), Transfans would riot in the streets! But then, we wouldn't be surprised. EVERY series from G1 Season 3 onward (poor Roddy) has been bashed to hell. G2 perhaps deserved it a bit, but it was the first step to getting TFs from a mere 80s fad into something big. BW got bashed to SH-T and still does so. BM got crapped on so bad it's sickening. RiD has people criticizing the anime style and calling it "kiddy". I-HATE-THAT-WORD. And Armada, oh, poor poor Armada. It's sad, really.

<shnip>

*blink* Whoa... didn't realize how many TF fans we had lurking about here.

I also agree with DinoGrrl's statement... Armada is indeed for the kiddies. *note how they are showing up in Happy Meals* But I have no harsh feelings about it. I didn't like the RiD season Fox ran though. Prolly cause it was too much like anime, and I soo hated that insane woman in a red sportscar. And the point having her there was...? Or lke they had these two trains, and they were going after a human-made locomotive before it goes off the cliff. The whole time I was thinking, 'C'mon! Just tranform and pick it up off the tracks!' Gah... two eps was all I could bare to watch.

I loved Beast Wars... made a point to watch that on Saturday mornings when I could. But.. I don't ever remember seeing Beast Machines... or that I didn't even realize it was TF related. Hrmmm... must have been when my TF interest was at it's all time low (while my TMNT fandom was skyhigh).

Hrmm.. want me to post this at The Padded Cell...? (that's another smallish forum kinda like this, complete with many drooling female fans)

Mouse · 11-21-2002, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by HorseTechie

*blink* Whoa... didn't realize how many TF fans we had lurking about here.

I also agree with DinoGrrl's statement... Armada is indeed for the kiddies. *note how they are showing up in Happy Meals* But I have no harsh feelings about it. I didn't like the RiD season Fox ran though. Prolly cause it was too much like anime, and I soo hated that insane woman in a red sportscar. And the point having her there was...? Or lke they had these two trains, and they were going after a human-made locomotive before it goes off the cliff. The whole time I was thinking, 'C'mon! Just tranform and pick it up off the tracks!' Gah... two eps was all I could bare to watch.

I loved Beast Wars... made a point to watch that on Saturday mornings when I could. But.. I don't ever remember seeing Beast Machines... or that I didn't even realize it was TF related. Hrmmm... must have been when my TF interest was at it's all time low (while my TMNT fandom was skyhigh).

Hrmm.. want me to post this at The Padded Cell...? (that's another smallish forum kinda like this, complete with many drooling female fans)

believe it or not miss HorseTechie, Transfans are alive and well over at Seibertron.com--the ultimate in transfandom

transformers hail from Cybertron-a planet far from earth, and it kinda makes you wonder what kind of interaction would occur if the TFs and TMNTs came together(hints to a fan fic

)

every cartoon series as a following, especially of horomone driven, artistic women

Shellfox · 11-21-2002, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by HorseTechie

. I didn't like the RiD season Fox ran though. Prolly cause it was too much like anime, and I soo hated that insane woman in a red sportscar. And the point having her there was...? Or lke they had these two trains, and they were going after a human-made locomotive before it goes off the cliff. The whole time I was thinking, 'C'mon! Just tranform and pick it up off the tracks!' Gah... two eps was all I could bare to watch.

Kelly the most worthless human ever made, but she was no worse that Sideburn, honestly who though him chasing after red cars was funny. The only think funny about that would be after he went super mode and saw him self in a moving mirror and chased it for a few eps.

Raphael-sama · 11-21-2002, 03:10 PM

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I didn't like the RiD season Fox ran though. Prolly cause it was too much like anime,

It WAS anime! How can anime be too much like anime? It doesn't make sense! Arrrgh, my braaaaiiiinn....

And Shellfox: There's sooo much they can do with Unicron on the show, or at least, in the comic. (Furman's getting Unicron back...when should we take bets on the number of survivors?

) As for what the mini-cons can DO to him...

Does "Matrix immunity" say anything to you?

-Badabing.

**HorseTechie** · 11-21-2002, 08:46 PM

Geee... Mouse, make it *harder* for me to get stuff done, huh?

(wonders how many message boards one has to be on before it's considered an addictive problem)

Yeah... that's why I didn't like RiD. TFs weren't meant to be anime-tized. (the diehard G1/BW fan I am)

*enigma-1* · 11-21-2002, 09:06 PM

Personally, I'm sort of mix of all the TF that I've seen over the years, though I'm mostly a G1 girl. Heck, that's where part of my char comes from! :p

Mouse · 11-21-2002, 11:04 PM

Transformers!!!! More than meets the eye! Transformers!!!! Robots in Disguise!!!

Generation One!!!! Wooot!!!!!

Autobots, transform and roll out!!!

The Lone Turtle · 11-22-2002, 01:40 AM

Wow, I never knew that there were so many TF fans here. Well make sure to buy the Tf toys and keep Transformers alive!!! Till all are one

11-21-2002, 11:04 PM	#39
Mouse Foot Soldier Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Kansas Posts: 156	Transformers!!!! More than meets the eye! Transformers!!!! Robots in Disguise!!! Generation One!!!! Wooot!!!!! Autobots, transform and roll out!!! __________________ So what we're blood brothers now?

11-20-2002, 07:15 PM	#21
Raphael-sama Foot Soldier Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Cah-nah-dah Posts: 155	As it currently stands, of course. But it's not as cut and dry as that. Some might have nostalgia clouding their visage. And here's something to chew on: G1 was NOT a total American production. The movie and many of the better episodes were animated by Toei (the guys who do Dragonball and Digimon, in other words), wheras some of the really crappy episodes like Rebirth were done by Sun...rise? Bow? Sun something. Anyway. Give Armada time. The animation has been steadily improving, a result of Hasbro taking a more direct involvement with the show. There's 41 episodes left to judge the animation on. -Badabing.

11-20-2002, 07:43 PM	#22
Shellfox Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,234	1. I have to put you in talks with a guy I know, you'd kill each other on details. (look for my hi I'm new thing go to the link, find Spegs, kill each other) 2. go past animation and look at plots, Armada is worthless. "the kids are right we have to protect the rain forest" Gag me with a fire hose. And lets not forget the last one, Corlos failing in love with a hologram he saw once, was unable to grasp the concep of her not being real despite putting his hand through her, and doing a 180 on sideing with any transformers and looking for minicons. Man they should have let him drowned

11-20-2002, 08:27 PM	#23
Raphael-sama Foot Soldier Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Cah-nah-dah Posts: 155	Ewww, no. I refuse to socialize with ANY Transfan from those message boards. I've been lurking all over for over a year now, and I've realized that the majority of Transfans are despicable ungrateful brats who worship Takara and get all hot and sweaty because Prime has to have short smokestacks in order for the thing to even hope to make a release over here. sigh That's why I signed up here. The TMNT fandom is, thankfully, a small close knit group of people who don't bash every last thing Mirage, etc. throw out. (Then again, I wasn't here for TNM, soo...) EDIT: Hold on, I forgot to bring something up. In case you haven't heard (and how could you?) UNICRON IS IN BLOODY ARMADA. TOY AND EVERYTHING. How can you NOT dig? If THAT doesn't make a plot worthwhile, I don't know WHAT does. -Badabing.

11-20-2002, 08:41 PM	#24
Shellfox Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,234	been hearing that for a while, since before the minicon element was created. Not sure what to make of it yet. All the pics I've seen of people showing him have been BW Neo version prototype, which is so cool. But given how its been done up to now, they could make Grimlock sux. Price of the Armada Unicron is like $80, and they don't give pics of it so forget it.

11-20-2002, 08:42 PM	#25
enigma-1 Foot Elite Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: take your pick... Posts: 4,161	Huh. Didn't know that Armada was such a hot debate. As a fellow T-fan, I've watched that and a lot of the others. From what I've seen, it's not so bad. I mean, each series has it's problems. That can't be helped.

11-20-2002, 08:46 PM	#26
Raphael-sama Foot Soldier Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Cah-nah-dah Posts: 155	The price is $66, according to Entertainment earth. It COULD be the BW Neo mold, but my heart tells me they'll make a new toy. (Which makes sense: the lead TF designer at Hasbro WANTS to make his own Unicron toy, and wants to do it justice) All I care about is that he has 75 minicon pegs. And that he turns into a planet. Think about it this way. If there's anything the show is bringing across, it's that the Mini-cons are tiny, adorable, collectable WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION. One mini-con created a blast so powerful even MEGATRON couldn't withstand it-and he was the one firing it! A mini-con gestalt sword destroyed an entire civilization. Think of what ALL the Mini-cons could do to the Chaos Bringer himself... -Badabing.

11-20-2002, 08:48 PM	#27
enigma-1 Foot Elite Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: take your pick... Posts: 4,161	Hmm, dangerous indeed.

11-20-2002, 08:50 PM	#28
Raphael-sama Foot Soldier Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Cah-nah-dah Posts: 155	Dangerous? Dangerous is an understatement, my friend. We're talking Invincible Hellspawn. We're talking Living(er, Metallized) Embodiment of Satan/Devil/whoever. I guarantee ya, the final eps of Armada are gonna put Transformer issue #75 to SHAME. -Badabing.

11-20-2002, 08:52 PM	#29
enigma-1 Foot Elite Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: take your pick... Posts: 4,161	I believe that I'm inclined to agree w/ you on that one. Though I'm also hoping that it won't give any fans certain ideas. The TF forums already have enough players who think themselves gods. I hate to think of any that would try to pull something like that.

11-20-2002, 09:01 PM	#30
Shellfox Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Texas Posts: 1,234	but think of the scale, Minicons=Human size, Tf are like grems to this guy in the movie, so he'd be what like 4 feet tall in bot mod if done to scale, probly more. How much could they really do to him. Side note if he was that big, he'd beat the day lights out of those life sized barbies that keep showing up

11-20-2002, 09:08 PM	#31
enigma-1 Foot Elite Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: take your pick... Posts: 4,161	That's one way to look at it.

11-21-2002, 02:01 AM	#32
The Lone Turtle Hench Mutant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Australia, mates! Posts: 311	I can't wait for Armada to make it to Aus. The toys looks hella sweet!! I've haerd some bad things about the show, but I'm notgoing to say anything untill I see it myself. But I agree with Raphael-Sama, the last eps of Armada are gona kick ass I just hope that Hasbro doesn't screw Unicron up

11-21-2002, 08:46 PM	#37
HorseTechie Inactive Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Midwest Posts: 5,677	Geee... Mouse, make it harder for me to get stuff done, huh? (wonders how many message boards one has to be on before it's considered an addictive problem) Yeah... that's why I didn't like RiD. TFs weren't meant to be anime-tized. (the diehard G1/BW fan I am)

11-21-2002, 09:06 PM	#38
enigma-1 Foot Elite Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: take your pick... Posts: 4,161	Personally, I'm sort of mix of all the TF that I've seen over the years, though I'm mostly a G1 girl. Heck, that's where part of my char comes from! :p

11-22-2002, 01:40 AM	#40
The Lone Turtle Hench Mutant Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Australia, mates! Posts: 311	Wow, I never knew that there were so many TF fans here. Well make sure to buy the Tf toys and keep Transformers alive!!! Till all are one