Watchmen Director loves Turtles

[Drtooth]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

None of Moore's comics should be movies. Sadly, any moron who sees the Watchmen film will just think that defines the whole story. They truley don't "get" it.

I'm just getting sour on this whole comic book movie phase. A studio or two has a couple hits, then we get assaulted with hundreds of movies trying to suckle the success of others. Sure, there have been some good ones... but we've had a lot of poorly written and conceived ones too...

As far as TMNT goes, if they want to make a Comic book film, they better had do it soon... within the next 2-3 years, since one of these days, the over-saturization of comic movies will cause its collapse. I've seen it hundreds of times.

That said, the only comic book film I'd kill to see is:



Apparently, this film was SO BAD that it actually won the European equivalent of the Razzies. And yet, it made a crap load of money in France....

[shuriken]

Originally Posted by TristanHuwJones

They didn't really luck out. Steve Barron was part of the Jim Henson Creature Shop, so I'm pretty sure someone backed by Jim Henon is someone worth trusting a film to.

Ok I retract my statement. It only happened on three seperate occasions. Glad you pointed that out.
Directed to MaC.
I respect your stance. What I was saying is that it was just a bit over the top for me and the Queen snippets were a nice subplot, even though it was pretty f**ked up that they sorta died needlessly.

[Brodie]

Originally Posted by Spitfire

He's made like 5 movies his entire career he's far from high profile. James Cameron is high profile. Steven Spielberg, Danny Boyle is now high profile, Chris Nolan is high profile...you get the point. This guys made two movies that anyone's heard of and neither of them were well received and only one of which was a box office success.
it might even be good, but that far from qualifies him as high profile. Also just for the hell of it I checked his filmography and he think he's doing like 5 movies next year. Either those are going to be really ****** movies or only one of them is going to make it into production.

You're kind of contradicting yourself. Like, I'm not nit picking you, but I have to disagree with some of your points. Youre saying Snyder isn't high profile due to the length of his resume, not the calibur of his films. But youre also essentially saying Danny Boyle is high profile because of the length of his resume, but I dont think Boyle is a name a ton of people know. You might only be saying he's high profile because he just won 8 awards for his new film. Chris Nolan is only well known because of his work on Batman. You can deny, and say you were a fan before Batman Begins. But no one else really was, unless they found his movies in a video store, or were in a film class. You can't deny that.

So, because of only a few films a director can be high profile...well,then Snyder might be on his way to being high profile.

And someone before mentioned The Spirit, and Rodriguez being a capable director. You know he didn't do anything with that piece of **** right?

PS: Alan Moore may agree that no one should make his comics into movies, and he'll never watch them. He DID say David Hayter's script (Solid Snakkkeeee-Guyverrrr) was the closest anyone could get to making a legitimate Watchmen script for film. Which is the script they're using, correct?

[TerranigmaFreak]

Yeah, how dare he mention the sacred name if the TMNT. The mere fact that this guy uttered the words TMNT is like him killing our fathers and raping our mothers and eating our dogs! He should appease us by sacrificing a trillion newborns every nanosecond, while constructing a monument all in our honor or we will not go to the theaters to watch his crappy movies.

Seriously? The guy mentions TMNT, and all of a sudden we're attacking him? Yeah, 300 sucked, so what? What makes you think he'll want to touch our holy property of the TMNT? He said something nice about it, and the thread quickly degenerates to attacking the guy and his movies? I don't care for his movies, nor do I want to watch The Watchman, but come on, is this really necessary?

[Andrew NDB]

You see? This is what I've been talking about for two years now. It only takes one guy like Zack Snyder who has a bit of love for the Mirage TMNT, and we could get that proper Mirage TMNT movie.

[Cipher]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

You see? This is what I've been talking about for two years now. It only takes one guy like Zack Snyder who has a bit of love for the Mirage TMNT, and we could get that proper Mirage TMNT movie.

This is what I was trying to say before I was verbally assaulted by several people who apparently loathe no one more than Zak Snyder.

[MaC]

Originally Posted by Brodie

And someone before mentioned The Spirit, and Rodriguez being a capable director. You know he didn't do anything with that piece of **** right?

PS: Alan Moore may agree that no one should make his comics into movies, and he'll never watch them. He DID say David Hayter's script (Solid Snakkkeeee-Guyverrrr) was the closest anyone could get to making a legitimate Watchmen script for film. Which is the script they're using, correct?

That Spirit and Rodriguez mentioning was me, and I believe I was thrashing The Spirit and praising Sin City and citing the difference of quality laying in Robert Rodriguez directing Sin City.

Also, they are not using David Hayter's script.

[Spitfire]

Originally Posted by Brodie

You're kind of contradicting yourself. Like, I'm not nit picking you, but I have to disagree with some of your points. Youre saying Snyder isn't high profile due to the length of his resume, not the calibur of his films. But youre also essentially saying Danny Boyle is high profile because of the length of his resume, but I dont think Boyle is a name a ton of people know. You might only be saying he's high profile because he just won 8 awards for his new film. Chris Nolan is only well known because of his work on Batman. You can deny, and say you were a fan before Batman Begins. But no one else really was, unless they found his movies in a video store, or were in a film class. You can't deny that.

Well that's my point. Boyle is high profile now because he just won so many Oscars. He can probably make whatever movie he wants to next. Same thing with Nolan, he's high profile because he a made a film that is now the second highest grossing picture of all time. People will come to him with work.

If Watchmen does well Zack might be on the way like you said but currently I don't believe that he is.

[KROW]

I like all this b*tching about comic-to-movie transitions being garbage. Remember when comic book films were nonexistent? Remember when comic book readers moaned and groaned for their favorite heroes to be seen on the big screen, only to realize the futility of it all? Now it's mainstream and the fanboys are still pissing and moaning about the horrible travesties that Hollywood throws their way. Beautiful.

Honestly, if a movie based on a comic series was exact to the letter, it'd be horrid. Look at Nolan's work at Batman -- not at all how it happened/happens in the book, but both films are deemed monumental by the fanbase. Sin City was generalized from Miller's original stories, but wasn't spot-on, either; the imagery helped that one gain money (before it became viewed as tired thanks to 300 and Spirit).

As for Alan Moore, he's got a stick jammed up his ass in general so of course he's going to sh*t on anything anybody does with his work. Though that doesn't stop the movie from being made, or the checks from coming to his door, now does it? Yeah, those books are DC property, but his name is still on the label. I love his stuff like the next fanboy (he's got a brilliant mind), but that doesn't change the fact that he's an asshole.

Seriously, all this boo-hooing is futile. You should all just be happy that the funnybooks you like to read and have enjoyed reading are getting this high profile treatment. It's what you wanted, wasn't it?

[MaC]

Originally Posted by KROW

It's what you wanted, wasn't it?

Not even a little.

[KROW]

Originally Posted by MaC

Not even a little.

So, judging from that rebuttal (and possibly your previous posts in this thread), you're on the other side of the spectrum -- among those preferring that the comics remain in the medium in which they were forged?

[Leonardo19]

I would love for Zach Snyder to do a TMNT movie. I love the Movie 300. I have yet to see Watchmen but it looks promising. The guy seems to be pretty passionate about his movies. I don't understand how his movies are being torn apart just for him mentioning TMNT. Who are anyone of us to decide who can be a TMNT fan??

The constant complaining on here continues.............


Just an idea but instead of saying something negative how about not saying nothing at all? Its really not that hard.

[shuriken]

You know I have to agree with Krow on this. Back track ten years ago and how many comic book movies were there? I mean decent ones that didn't completely Blow. I'll give you five at most. As for the possibility of this Snyder guy making a TMNT flick who knows. I'm gonna watch The Watchmen before I can make any judgements. Hell the least you could do is watch the movie first.

[trustno1]

Originally Posted by shuriken

You know I have to agree with Krow on this. Back track ten years ago and how many comic book movies were there? I mean decent ones that didn't completely Blow. I'll give you five at most. As for the possibility of this Snyder guy making a TMNT flick who knows. I'm gonna watch The Watchmen before I can make any judgements. Hell the least you could do is watch the movie first.

i remember when sam raimi was announced as the spiderman director. people **** themselves. spidey fans were freaking out. on the flipside everyone was loving that bryan singer was put onto superman and that turned out to be garbage.

[MaC]

Originally Posted by KROW

So, judging from that rebuttal (and possibly your previous posts in this thread), you're on the other side of the spectrum -- among those preferring that the comics remain in the medium in which they were forged?

Not entirely. Some comics, namely the superhero stuff, can lend themselves nicely to the movie . Thats because they don't need to adhere to any specific story and can draw from decades of material to forge something new.

But to adapt a graphic novel like the Watchmen is a mistake. To begin with, the Watchmen is not a story that can be told in two hours. It has so much depth and complexity that even stripping away the barest things, like the Black Freighter, make a huge impact on the story. Also, the Watchmen isn't just simply the story of some superheroes vs a bad guy. It's a comic about comics. That is completely lost in the translation to film. And again, adapting a graphic novel differs from just making a Spider-Man or X-Men or even Batman story. It is a complete work where each part matters, there aren't things you can drop or streamline.

I don't need to see the movie, I know from many readings that the Watchmen is not a two or so hour work. I know its not about spectacular explosions and slow motion fighting. And I have no interest in seeing someone whose name is Rorscach, who wears a similar costume and speaks lines that Rorscach did(but in an awful awful voice) but lacking any of his depth. I mean, the issue exploring Rorscach ALONE could be an over 3 hour movie. How do they plan on cramming it into a summer flick?

[shuriken]

I get what you're saying MaC. Although I don't see why you can't just give the movie a chance? I know they aren't going to include everything in it and that's not the point. I personally would love it if they made the movie almost exactly like the book, but I know that it's impossible to pull off due to time constraints and the allmighty $$$. Unless if they make like 5 movies or a TV series,they can't do what you want them to do no matter how awesome or mediocre or crappy the director is.
The Watchmen works as a comic because it's kind of a self examination of a comic. That little bit is lost as a movie, but there is still a great story to tell and I personally want to see how Snyder's film pulls it off, Black Freighter or not. Let's just hope he doesn't overdo it with the slo-motion fighting.

[MaC]

Originally Posted by shuriken

I get what you're saying MaC. Although I don't see why you can't just give the movie a chance? I know they aren't going to include everything in it and that's not the point. I personally would love it if they made the movie almost exactly like the book, but I know that it's impossible to pull off due to time constraints and the allmighty $$$. Unless if they make like 5 movies or a TV series,they can't do what you want them to do no matter how awesome or mediocre or crappy the director is.
The Watchmen works as a comic because it's kind of a self examination of a comic. That little bit is lost as a movie, but there is still a great story to tell and I personally want to see how Snyder's film pulls it off, Black Freighter or not. Let's just hope he doesn't overdo it with the slo-motion fighting.

I would have loved to see the Watchmen get the HBO treatment and get a 12 episode mini.

As for not giving it a chance, everything I've read in the reviews states that the slow motion is ever present and the action sequences are pumped up. That's just not what I want in a movie, let alone one sharing the name as the best original graphic novel.

[shuriken]

Well just watching the previews I know there is slo mo. What I meant was I hope that not every time something important happens it's in slo mo. Kinda like Transformers, that totally killed it for me(that and Shia LeBuff). I don't mind the action sequences though, provided they are not meaningless random battles or whatever.
The HBO treatment would be amazing though.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by KROW

I like all this b*tching about comic-to-movie transitions being garbage. Remember when comic book films were nonexistent? Remember when comic book readers moaned and groaned for their favorite heroes to be seen on the big screen, only to realize the futility of it all? Now it's mainstream and the fanboys are still pissing and moaning about the horrible travesties that Hollywood throws their way. Beautiful.

Actually, whenever Marvel or DC make a more "cerebral" movie, the kind that fans want (Ang Lee's Hulk, the uncut version of Daredevil, The Incredible Hulk, Superman Returns), there met with sheer derision. Yet popcorn flicks like Iron Man become incredibly popular. Unless your name is Bryan Synger or Christopher Nolan, nobody seems to want a movie that makes you think....yet that's all they cry out for.

[jerome]

Originally Posted by Spitfire

Well that's my point. Boyle is high profile now because he just won so many Oscars. He can probably make whatever movie he wants to next. Same thing with Nolan, he's high profile because he a made a film that is now the second highest grossing picture of all time. People will come to him with work.

If Watchmen does well Zack might be on the way like you said but currently I don't believe that he is.

danny boyle has been high profile since trainspotting...at least to anyone who keeps up with movies. And then i'd say he became as much of a house hold name as anyone who isn't spielberg/lucas level of directors after 28 days later. And danny boyle has been making whatever movie he wants to make his entire career. a life less ordinary, 28 days later, sunshine...

And who are you kidding saying that people are now going to come to nolan with work? He has been able to do pretty much whatever he wanted to do when ever he wanted to do it right after he made memento...

And winning awards doesn't make you a house hold name or able to do whatever you want. Do you know who sam mendes is? How about the guy who directed shakespeare in love?

Snyder is a pretty visually gifted director. his dawn of the dead remake was pretty good, 300 was visually compelling and I saw watchmen last monday thanks to a free screening here at the alamo drafthouse and it was also really good...of course the no squid ending was sort of a bummer but hey...And he also has the power to do whatever he wants. He is getting 3 different releases of watchmen he got the theatrical running time he wanted and the hard R rating. Frank Miller has said that he wants snyder to direct a The Dark Knight returns adaptation. Dude is legit.

this guy has nothing but geek cred and studio cred right now. If he somehow ended up making a new tmnt flick and you guys bitch about it. U DUMB. sorry this message is a bit jumbled...