Rank the TMNT universes from favorite to least favorite - Page 2

*Mr._Mutant_Man* · 03-04-2009, 08:48 PM

1)Mirage comics: It's where TMNT originated. It introduced most of what makes the TMNT so likable.

2)Movies: The first movie is a great combination of the comic's stories with some of the characteristics of the cartoon show. The second movie was more cartoonish, but still okay.

3)Archie comics: It's more kid friendly than the other comics, but at the same time it took the Turtles seriously enough to result in stories that are sometimes just as good as the Mirage comics.

4)Original cartoon

5)2003 cartoon: I've liked what I've seen, but the nostalgia for everything else is a factor in why this is ranked lower.

6)Next Mutation: Can't seem to get very interested in this show.

*Guitar_Raph* · 03-04-2009, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by TristanHuwJones

I hate you.

So what! You don't have to be into TMNT by reading comic books or any superheroes for that matter.

So I appreciate the TMNT in a bizarre way, Next Mutation & COOTS, you choose.

03-04-2009, 10:02 PM

Dude, you like TMNT for all the wrong reasons.
TMNT isn't supposed to be some campy highschool musical.

The way you like TMNT is pretty much like someone claiming to like Star Wars because they love the Ewoks cartoon from the 80s, but dislikes the Star Wars movies.

Read some of the TMNT Mirage comics of volume 1 (particularly issues 1 through 11), then ask yourself if you enjoyed it.
If you didn't, then seriously, TMNT is not the right franchize for you. And I'm sure it isn't.

Dragon Turtle · 03-04-2009, 10:02 PM

Of the ones I have the most familiarity with:

1) 2003 Cartoon: Feels like the right mix of the OT and Mirage comics to me, and at times seems to have the most developed characters and universe of any tmnt universes. Brought me back into TMNT after nearly a decade.

2) Archie Comics: Took the old cartoon and added a much needed layer of complexity, probably what kept me into TMNT long enough for me to care today.

3) Mirage Comics: In terms of what I consider to be the ideal level of maturity and setting for TMNT stories, I would take the Mirage TMNT universe, but to be honest, the older stories themselves never really enthralled me, especially stories not written by Laird and Eastman. The newer tales issues are definately a marked improvement, and I would probably be more willing to give volume 4 a chance if not for the glacial pace of the books' printing.

4) The 80's Cartoon: What introduced me to the franchise, first several seasons were pretty good, interest dipped along with the quality of the show, at least as I saw it.

5) The movies: I like the first and fourth movies about same, don't really remember or care much about the second and third movies, but I really like the future potential of the movie series

*XERO* · 03-04-2009, 10:14 PM

Since I never got to read the comics as of yet (besides a few select issues), I'll go with what I know.

Old Toon - It stands out the most because it got me into them in the first place. And I know I'm not the only one here who believes that most of the color/voice errors were intentional.

Movies - What truly secured my place as a Turtle Fan for life. Hell, I'm one of the 'chosen few' who actually liked the third movie. Guilty as charged, but I don't care. There are still some people who actually liked the Macarena.

And of course, the New Cartoon. With the recent 'series finale' or whatever you wanna call it, it had a good run. But, I'll never have a better thrill than the Return to New York saga. Good stuff right there.

Yo, there's Donatello
Even for a Turtle... he's mellow!

What? Of course I know the words to Cowabunga. And it doesn't end there.

But when it comes to the rest, that's when I, too, draw the line.

*Spitfire* · 03-04-2009, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryona

TMNT III (movie)
- TMNT - Image comics
- Fast Forward

How could anyone like the garbage of the second list? Honestly...

We're objective and open to change to an extent? How can you be so judgmental? I gave everything a full chance personally. I own and have read every turtles comic, it doesn't take very long I hardly read comics, and seen all the episodes of the series out thus far. Honestly to fully judge something you need to have fully embraced it. The only thing I never gave a full chance was Next Mutation because as a kid I wasn't interested and I don't care to import DVDs or watch it on Youtube.

1. Archie
2. Mirage
3. Image
4. Old Toon
5. 2K3/FF
6. Movies
7. Everything else

**Jester** · 03-04-2009, 11:42 PM

I totally agree Spitfire.

That's just it. I give the TMNT the benefit of the doubt and at least try things with them in it, even if they do disappoint.

Is it so wrong to keep an open mind? Wow...kinda ironic, ain't it?

03-05-2009, 12:28 AM

The thing is I have seen all the TMNT mistakes. I've seen the third movie, I've seen enough of the disasterous spinoff series, seen Next Mutation, etc...
So it's not like I'm making assumptions. I know what I'm talking about.

It bugs me when I see someone saying "I love The Next Mutation". It reminds me of some years back when I was in a Dragonball message board, there were a few schmucks saying "DBGT rules! It's the best!". ugh...

I think what it is about those obscured people who like The Next Mutation, Fast forward, and Back to the Sewers is the fact that it's TMNT on tv. It doesn't matter if it's good, bad, or so-so. It's TMNT on tv. Free, viewable TMNT. And that's apparently good enough for some people.
They simply want TMNT over not having any TMNT on tv. So they take any kind of TMNT. regardless of quality.

*Cipher* · 03-05-2009, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryona

"DBGT rules! It's the best!". ugh...

There's really nothing wrong with GT if you can handle a bit of fluff after the "omg hardcoreness" of DBZ (which is just an American marketing ploy anyway). Most fans just flip their sh*t because it's episodic and disregards some previously established logic.

Logic. In Dragon Ball....seriously?

At any rate, putting DBGT on the same level of objective badness as The Next Mutation is some seriously rough treatment.

Also, Ninja Turtles.

*Spitfire* · 03-05-2009, 12:33 AM

Hey I hate the third movie, hell I don't even own a DVD copy of it myself, but I wouldn't call out another fan because they do. It all boils down to opinion. A lot of people like different stuff. Like the "Coming out of their shells" thing for example. I don't get why anyone likes it but they do. When all is said and done if you really think about it someone has to like it. Just like the worst movie you've ever seen is probably someone's favorite movie for some reason or another. I once had someone tell me "The Happening" was the best movie they saw last year.

TristanHuwJones · 03-05-2009, 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Guitar_Raph

So what! You don't have to be into TMNT by reading comic books or any superheroes for that matter.

So I appreciate the TMNT in a bizarre way, Next Mutation & COOTS, you choose.

It was a joke mate. Hence the laughing face. All fans are fans for different reasons. There are heaps of people here who couldn't give a **** about the comics. They're still fans.

Also, my interest in the 2k3 show started to wane as it neared the Lost Season. I enjoyed Fast Forward as a whole probably more than the last few seasons of 2k3. That's me though.

*Cipher* · 03-05-2009, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire

I once had someone tell me "The Happening" was the best movie they saw last year.

You should tell them to see more than one movie a year.

[Ba-dun, ching!]

*shuriken* · 03-05-2009, 12:57 AM

Well let's see...
1-2k3 series- After discovering this great thing called the "Internet" in 2001 I heard about a CGI tmnt series and was so psyched about it only to have the idea scrapped. Then I heard about the 2k3 toon two years later and the excitement just made me all giggly and anxiousLike a schoolgirl . When it premiered I had missed the first episode, but I saw the second one and I was just blown away. I loved this show, everything about it was just so new yet familiar, plus all the nods to the OT were great as well.
2-Mirage Comics-The above toon actually got me into the Comics and I really like how each turtle is portrayed, especially the early Laird and Eastman stuff. Plus there's so much diversity in the characters and stories from a Ninja clan out for revenge, a timestress looking for a thrill and Vampires.
3-Old toon-What got me hooked on tmnt in the first place, I liked it as far as I remember. It was lighthearted and funny with both quirky and slapstick humor as well as some pretty cool stories and memorable charcters.
4-Movies- I liked the First two movies immensly and I think Ninja Rap is probably Vanilla Ice's best work, plus the fights were exciting and Jim Henson's creature shop did an amazing job with their costumes. The later two movies...eh.
5-Fast Forward & BTTS- Not necessarily bad shows, they had some interesting new villains and some cool concepts it's just a bit bland when compared to 2k3 or the OT in my eyes.
6-Archie/Image-never really got into them, I've heard some great stuff about Archie but it's down here due to lack of exposure. Read an Image comic where Raph took over the Foot and was completely confused by it. He looked good in the Shredder outfit though.
7-Next Mutation-I Liked it when it first came out because I enjoyed the watching the turtles again and saw it as a continuation of the movies(at first). As the series progressed I realized it wasn't getting any better. Bummer...
8-TMNT Anime- it's pretty bad.
9-Coots- makes me cringe whenever I either see the costumes or hear the voices.

That was funny Cipher. I tip my hat to you.

Tuxedo Moroboshi · 03-05-2009, 01:44 AM

Okay, for my list, I'm splitting up the movies. Sure, they share the same continuity, but each one is so different from all the others that I don't think my list can be accurate without splitting them up. I will also separate Fast Forward and Back to the Sewer from the 2k3 series, as to me it feels like that part of the series is more like a spin-off that a true continuation. Also, I haven't read the Image issues yet, so they aren't included.

And thus, I present my list:

1 (TIE). Mirage
1 (TIE). 2003 Cartoon
3. Tournament Fighters (It was unique, so I'm counting it as a separate universe... and I really wish there were more based on this unique world. I mean, it's a world where you have Karai, Krang, and Wingnut all inhabiting the same plane of existence!)
4. Movie 1
5. Movie 2
6. Movie 4
7. Archie
8. 1987 Cartoon
9. Fast Forward/Back to the Sewer
10 (TIE). Movie 3
10 (TIE). The Next Mutation
11. Coming Out of Their Shells (Though, as much as I hated this, I will admit that Pizza Power was an awesome song)

*Guitar_Raph* · 03-05-2009, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryona

Dude, you like TMNT for all the wrong reasons.
TMNT isn't supposed to be some campy highschool musical.

The way you like TMNT is pretty much like someone claiming to like Star Wars because they love the Ewoks cartoon from the 80s, but dislikes the Star Wars movies.

If you didn't, then seriously, TMNT is not the right franchize for you. And I'm sure it isn't.

As Steve Martin would say, Excuuuuuuuuuuuuuse Me!

Sure, I'm a misfit TMNT fan all because some idiot came up with the musical stage show idea. But I agree about your Star Wars statement.

At least this isn't a Scooby-Doo forum and I became a fan when they added Scrappy Doo (ta-ta-ta-ta, ta-ta! Puppy power!)!

Every TMNT fan has their own idea of how they became a fan.

*Prowler* · 03-05-2009, 04:10 PM

Original Toon > Video games(the ones based on the original toon, the new ones are crap) > 1st Movie > 2nd Movie

I don't care about the rest.

*Tinuvielsdreams* · 03-05-2009, 04:30 PM

This is hard cause when I was a kid I would have said OT, archies, movies, VGs. Then I discovered Mirage and image and thought they were so awesome. Next we get a new cartoon series and I love the way it looks for most of its duration and then a new CGI film.
I hate choosing favorites but here's my best shot

Archie
OT
Mirage
Movies 1 & 2
2K3/FF
Early video games
Image
Movie 4
Later video games
movie 3, BTTS, Coming out of their shells, Next mutation (all in the same category for me, still part of the Universe but I could take them or leave them)

notebook · 03-05-2009, 05:10 PM

1. old toon
2. mirage
3. 1980's-90's toys/ 1990's konami video games
4. 2k3 , seasons 1-3
5. archie comics, issues 1-25
6. btts

there are some good things about the movies, next mutation, fast forward, lost season, mid-late archie stuff, but i'm generally indifferent about 'em.

Lord Nightwalker · 03-05-2009, 06:27 PM

Goes like so...
Mirage.
Archie.
2K3.
Image.
Cgi 2007 movie and it's "tie ins".
Video Game realities.
Everything else.

Vivi · 03-06-2009, 01:55 AM

this is hard, but for the moment:
- 2K3/FF
- TMNT 1
- TMNT 4
- comics
- btts
- TMNT 2 and 3
- Old cartoon
- Next Mutation

I would need to read more comic to place them fairly, this is my big mission over the next few months, but from what I have they would be towards the top of the list. I actually like FF, when I first saw it I was a little taken aback but the latter half reminded me a little of season 2 (turtles in space), particularly "Zixxth Sense". I found it hilarious how Zixx could effectively con the turtles with a few carefully planted comments.

03-04-2009, 10:14 PM	#25
XERO Hybrid Theorist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Alamo City Posts: 8,185	Since I never got to read the comics as of yet (besides a few select issues), I'll go with what I know. Old Toon - It stands out the most because it got me into them in the first place. And I know I'm not the only one here who believes that most of the color/voice errors were intentional. Movies - What truly secured my place as a Turtle Fan for life. Hell, I'm one of the 'chosen few' who actually liked the third movie. Guilty as charged, but I don't care. There are still some people who actually liked the Macarena. And of course, the New Cartoon. With the recent 'series finale' or whatever you wanna call it, it had a good run. But, I'll never have a better thrill than the Return to New York saga. Good stuff right there. Yo, there's Donatello Even for a Turtle... he's mellow! What? Of course I know the words to Cowabunga. And it doesn't end there. But when it comes to the rest, that's when I, too, draw the line. __________________ "Travel at the speed of light... then hit the nitro!"

03-04-2009, 11:42 PM	#27
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,300	I totally agree Spitfire. That's just it. I give the TMNT the benefit of the doubt and at least try things with them in it, even if they do disappoint. Is it so wrong to keep an open mind? Wow...kinda ironic, ain't it? __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

03-05-2009, 12:28 AM	#28
Ryona Guest Posts: n/a	The thing is I have seen all the TMNT mistakes. I've seen the third movie, I've seen enough of the disasterous spinoff series, seen Next Mutation, etc... So it's not like I'm making assumptions. I know what I'm talking about. It bugs me when I see someone saying "I love The Next Mutation". It reminds me of some years back when I was in a Dragonball message board, there were a few schmucks saying "DBGT rules! It's the best!". ugh... I think what it is about those obscured people who like The Next Mutation, Fast forward, and Back to the Sewers is the fact that it's TMNT on tv. It doesn't matter if it's good, bad, or so-so. It's TMNT on tv. Free, viewable TMNT. And that's apparently good enough for some people. They simply want TMNT over not having any TMNT on tv. So they take any kind of TMNT. regardless of quality. Last edited by Ryona; 03-05-2009 at 12:37 AM.

03-05-2009, 12:33 AM	#30
Spitfire Writer • Director Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 12,035	Hey I hate the third movie, hell I don't even own a DVD copy of it myself, but I wouldn't call out another fan because they do. It all boils down to opinion. A lot of people like different stuff. Like the "Coming out of their shells" thing for example. I don't get why anyone likes it but they do. When all is said and done if you really think about it someone has to like it. Just like the worst movie you've ever seen is probably someone's favorite movie for some reason or another. I once had someone tell me "The Happening" was the best movie they saw last year. __________________ Check out my online portfolio http://www.christopherpelletier.com/

03-05-2009, 12:57 AM	#33
shuriken Second City Shinobi Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chi-town Posts: 4,182	Well let's see... 1-2k3 series- After discovering this great thing called the "Internet" in 2001 I heard about a CGI tmnt series and was so psyched about it only to have the idea scrapped. Then I heard about the 2k3 toon two years later and the excitement just made me all giggly and anxiousLike a schoolgirl . When it premiered I had missed the first episode, but I saw the second one and I was just blown away. I loved this show, everything about it was just so new yet familiar, plus all the nods to the OT were great as well. 2-Mirage Comics-The above toon actually got me into the Comics and I really like how each turtle is portrayed, especially the early Laird and Eastman stuff. Plus there's so much diversity in the characters and stories from a Ninja clan out for revenge, a timestress looking for a thrill and Vampires. 3-Old toon-What got me hooked on tmnt in the first place, I liked it as far as I remember. It was lighthearted and funny with both quirky and slapstick humor as well as some pretty cool stories and memorable charcters. 4-Movies- I liked the First two movies immensly and I think Ninja Rap is probably Vanilla Ice's best work, plus the fights were exciting and Jim Henson's creature shop did an amazing job with their costumes. The later two movies...eh. 5-Fast Forward & BTTS- Not necessarily bad shows, they had some interesting new villains and some cool concepts it's just a bit bland when compared to 2k3 or the OT in my eyes. 6-Archie/Image-never really got into them, I've heard some great stuff about Archie but it's down here due to lack of exposure. Read an Image comic where Raph took over the Foot and was completely confused by it. He looked good in the Shredder outfit though. 7-Next Mutation-I Liked it when it first came out because I enjoyed the watching the turtles again and saw it as a continuation of the movies(at first). As the series progressed I realized it wasn't getting any better. Bummer... 8-TMNT Anime- it's pretty bad. 9-Coots- makes me cringe whenever I either see the costumes or hear the voices. That was funny Cipher. I tip my hat to you. __________________ Some things are better left unsaid. This isn't one of them

03-04-2009, 08:48 PM	#21
Mr._Mutant_Man Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 2,340	1)Mirage comics: It's where TMNT originated. It introduced most of what makes the TMNT so likable. 2)Movies: The first movie is a great combination of the comic's stories with some of the characteristics of the cartoon show. The second movie was more cartoonish, but still okay. 3)Archie comics: It's more kid friendly than the other comics, but at the same time it took the Turtles seriously enough to result in stories that are sometimes just as good as the Mirage comics. 4)Original cartoon 5)2003 cartoon: I've liked what I've seen, but the nostalgia for everything else is a factor in why this is ranked lower. 6)Next Mutation: Can't seem to get very interested in this show.

03-04-2009, 10:02 PM	#23
Ryona Guest Posts: n/a	Dude, you like TMNT for all the wrong reasons. TMNT isn't supposed to be some campy highschool musical. The way you like TMNT is pretty much like someone claiming to like Star Wars because they love the Ewoks cartoon from the 80s, but dislikes the Star Wars movies. Read some of the TMNT Mirage comics of volume 1 (particularly issues 1 through 11), then ask yourself if you enjoyed it. If you didn't, then seriously, TMNT is not the right franchize for you. And I'm sure it isn't.

03-04-2009, 10:02 PM	#24
Dragon Turtle Stone Warrior Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Standing behind you. Posts: 776	Of the ones I have the most familiarity with: 1) 2003 Cartoon: Feels like the right mix of the OT and Mirage comics to me, and at times seems to have the most developed characters and universe of any tmnt universes. Brought me back into TMNT after nearly a decade. 2) Archie Comics: Took the old cartoon and added a much needed layer of complexity, probably what kept me into TMNT long enough for me to care today. 3) Mirage Comics: In terms of what I consider to be the ideal level of maturity and setting for TMNT stories, I would take the Mirage TMNT universe, but to be honest, the older stories themselves never really enthralled me, especially stories not written by Laird and Eastman. The newer tales issues are definately a marked improvement, and I would probably be more willing to give volume 4 a chance if not for the glacial pace of the books' printing. 4) The 80's Cartoon: What introduced me to the franchise, first several seasons were pretty good, interest dipped along with the quality of the show, at least as I saw it. 5) The movies: I like the first and fourth movies about same, don't really remember or care much about the second and third movies, but I really like the future potential of the movie series

03-05-2009, 01:44 AM	#34
Tuxedo Moroboshi Mad Scientist Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Battle Nexus Posts: 1,127	Okay, for my list, I'm splitting up the movies. Sure, they share the same continuity, but each one is so different from all the others that I don't think my list can be accurate without splitting them up. I will also separate Fast Forward and Back to the Sewer from the 2k3 series, as to me it feels like that part of the series is more like a spin-off that a true continuation. Also, I haven't read the Image issues yet, so they aren't included. And thus, I present my list: 1 (TIE). Mirage 1 (TIE). 2003 Cartoon 3. Tournament Fighters (It was unique, so I'm counting it as a separate universe... and I really wish there were more based on this unique world. I mean, it's a world where you have Karai, Krang, and Wingnut all inhabiting the same plane of existence!) 4. Movie 1 5. Movie 2 6. Movie 4 7. Archie 8. 1987 Cartoon 9. Fast Forward/Back to the Sewer 10 (TIE). Movie 3 10 (TIE). The Next Mutation 11. Coming Out of Their Shells (Though, as much as I hated this, I will admit that Pizza Power was an awesome song) __________________ Hey, be sure to check out my art! Last edited by Tuxedo Moroboshi; 03-05-2009 at 11:43 PM. Reason: I can't believe I forgot to add in the first movie! XD

03-05-2009, 04:30 PM	#37
Tinuvielsdreams Nothing without passion Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 1,722	This is hard cause when I was a kid I would have said OT, archies, movies, VGs. Then I discovered Mirage and image and thought they were so awesome. Next we get a new cartoon series and I love the way it looks for most of its duration and then a new CGI film. I hate choosing favorites but here's my best shot Archie OT Mirage Movies 1 & 2 2K3/FF Early video games Image Movie 4 Later video games movie 3, BTTS, Coming out of their shells, Next mutation (all in the same category for me, still part of the Universe but I could take them or leave them)

03-05-2009, 05:10 PM	#38
notebook Hench Mutant Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 275	1. old toon 2. mirage 3. 1980's-90's toys/ 1990's konami video games 4. 2k3 , seasons 1-3 5. archie comics, issues 1-25 6. btts there are some good things about the movies, next mutation, fast forward, lost season, mid-late archie stuff, but i'm generally indifferent about 'em.

03-05-2009, 06:27 PM	#39
Lord Nightwalker Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 698	Goes like so... Mirage. Archie. 2K3. Image. Cgi 2007 movie and it's "tie ins". Video Game realities. Everything else.

03-06-2009, 01:55 AM	#40
Vivi Mad Scientist Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Ninja HQ, Moon Posts: 1,076	this is hard, but for the moment: - 2K3/FF - TMNT 1 - TMNT 4 - comics - btts - TMNT 2 and 3 - Old cartoon - Next Mutation I would need to read more comic to place them fairly, this is my big mission over the next few months, but from what I have they would be towards the top of the list. I actually like FF, when I first saw it I was a little taken aback but the latter half reminded me a little of season 2 (turtles in space), particularly "Zixxth Sense". I found it hilarious how Zixx could effectively con the turtles with a few carefully planted comments.