Why did Splinter not show the canister until TMNTII?

saul · 03-24-2010, 02:16 PM

He says basically: "You have not seen this until now..."

So, why exactly would he feel compelled to hide the canister from the turtles all this time? Especially since it wasn't a secret that the ooze came from a broken canister. Wouldn't the turtles want to see what was on the can?

*Spitfire* · 03-24-2010, 02:25 PM

He knew if he showed them before that they would want to go to TGRI and check it out. They would be curious about their origins and he wouldn't be able to stop them. It'd be risky.

Or it was convenient for the plot of the 2nd movie and not the first so that's why.

*Candy Kappa* · 03-24-2010, 02:55 PM

the plot monster said so

*Powder* · 03-24-2010, 02:58 PM

We're really reaching for topics these days eh?

*Candy Kappa* · 03-24-2010, 03:07 PM

I blame the plot

BoggleKng · 03-24-2010, 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder

We're really reaching for topics these days eh?

Indeed..

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 03-24-2010, 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by saul

He says basically: "You have not seen this until now..."

So, why exactly would he feel compelled to hide the canister from the turtles all this time? Especially since it wasn't a secret that the ooze came from a broken canister. Wouldn't the turtles want to see what was on the can?

Why are they always saying the ooze in the films? In the 1987 cartoon, it's "mutagen". And why is April working for Channel 3 instead of Channel 6?

lilmotto · 03-24-2010, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by J 1982

Why are they always saying the ooze in the films? In the 1987 cartoon, it's "mutagen". And why is April working for Channel 3 instead of Channel 6?

Politics.... I don't want to get into it

*Coola Yagami* · 03-24-2010, 08:13 PM

Wasn't it also called ooze in the Mirage comics and 2K3?

*Koi* · 03-24-2010, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Powder

We're really reaching for topics these days eh?

It is better then the Raph vs. Leo thread.

Everything that Spitfire said, it looks like the best answer.

*Turo602* · 03-24-2010, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire

He knew if he showed them before that they would want to go to TGRI and check it out. They would be curious about their origins and he wouldn't be able to stop them. It'd be risky.

Or it was convenient for the plot of the 2nd movie and not the first so that's why.

Nope all wrong, Splinter found a new canister and told them that was the canister that had the ooze that mutated them all, because the canister in part one didn't say TGRI. So, they wouldn't go investigate anywhere before. It was just a plot hole

*ToTheNines* · 03-24-2010, 10:03 PM

We can just use the classic "flashback excuse" for that one.

*oldmanwinters* · 03-24-2010, 10:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

We can just use the classic "flashback excuse" for that one.

So, it didn't say it because Splinter didn't tell us it said it? Ah, I see...

*ToTheNines* · 03-24-2010, 10:47 PM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

So, it didn't say it because Splinter didn't tell us it said it? Ah, I see...

Correct.

Another TMNT example: Splinter saying "utrom shredder" in the season 5 flashback, although he had no idea Shredder was an ooty.

DonatelloDomeHead31 · 03-24-2010, 11:59 PM

The title said: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles: Secret of the Ooze.

So if he had shown it before then, then it wouldn't be a secret

*Turo602* · 03-25-2010, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

So, it didn't say it because Splinter didn't tell us it said it? Ah, I see...

No, Splinter told the story, and we saw the events of that time. He didn't have to say the Turtles had shells but we saw it anyway. So Splinter is a liar and found a new canister and was being dramatic for a movie's plot.

*Original TMNT Cartoon Fan* · 03-25-2010, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

Wasn't it also called ooze in the Mirage comics and 2K3?

I looked at the first 1984 Mirage issue on the Ninjaturtles webside http://www.ninjaturtles.com/comics/mirage/one/pg16.htm and it says ooze so that's correct.

Mighty Bebop · 03-25-2010, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by J 1982

Why are they always saying the ooze in the films? In the 1987 cartoon, it's "mutagen". And why is April working for Channel 3 instead of Channel 6?

I seem to recall the term "retromutagen ooze." Was that from the OT?

Ulisses31 · 03-25-2010, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Turo602

Nope all wrong, Splinter found a new canister and told them that was the canister that had the ooze that mutated them all, because the canister in part one didn't say TGRI. So, they wouldn't go investigate anywhere before. It was just a plot hole

Splinter wrote TGRI just to get the turtles to do his dirty work.

*ToTheNines* · 03-25-2010, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Turo602

He didn't have to say the Turtles had shells but we saw it anyway.

Unless you're some sort of dumb f*ck, that's an assumed piece of information.

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