Unbelievable...

azrael · 09-22-2010, 11:00 PM

Does anyone here believe in the manipulation of elements?

Fire, earth, air, water, and void...

I read the book of 5 rings almost like a bible. Each time I read it I feel as if I unlock a deeper or hidden meaning.
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*BubblyShell22* · 09-24-2010, 12:54 PM

Nope. I think it's too illogical like many other things.

azrael · 09-24-2010, 04:05 PM

How is it illogical? I know this maybe a stupid example but what about the history show where they find "real" superpowers? there are video on line of a guy from the 60's(?) egniting a news paper with just thought. What about shaolin monks? Are you a seeing is believing?
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**Venom** · 09-24-2010, 10:50 PM

I believe it's possible to a very limited degree since everything in its most basic form is nothing more than frequencies, vibrations, and wavelengths. Of course, our small size in comparison to the universe at large would make any disturbance we created seem like prestidigitation. There is certainly far more things that seems "illogical" that are perfectly natural and explainable, our limited knowledge only deems them as "illogical".

*shuriken* · 09-25-2010, 02:27 PM

Well considering that everything in it's most basic form is energyand atoms, than yes I do believe that we as humans do have this capacity to a very small degree manipulate fire, air, and water. Not so sure about earth though. Also taking into account what we see touch taste and smell is only like 1/100th of reality it would be "illogical" not to think that certain people have at least a miniscule amount of manipulative powers. My two cents

*Katie* · 09-26-2010, 08:41 PM

We do manipulate the elements.

Ever build a fire?

Use an air-conditioner? Or a fan?

Turn on or off a water faucet....or freeze or boil water?

Ever built a sand castle?

*shuriken* · 09-26-2010, 09:25 PM

^^ Touche'. Although I'm pretty sure Azrael meant something a little more along the lines of Airbender. Regardless, you win.

*ToTheNines* · 09-27-2010, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by azrael

Each time I read it I feel as if I unlock a deeper or hidden meaning.

Like what?

azrael · 09-27-2010, 06:55 PM

It seems like when I first read it I took it as surface value then the more I read it its almost as if my character and demeanor change like how to manipulate the elements with my self to perform when nessacary. (although it doesnt help with spelling

) Its wierd I really cant explain it i dont think. When I train it shows.
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*BubblyShell22* · 09-29-2010, 09:31 AM

Yes, I'm the type that doesn't believe in things unless I get proof. I'm just more of a logical person than most people I guess. I just don't see the logic in manipulating the elements in the way you've described. Katie's example is definitely proof that we can manipulate elements in our human way.

azrael · 09-30-2010, 08:06 PM

Katies way is more scientific, maybe alchemic. I can agree with that. Have you ever tried to do it? I think if you did you would have to get that mental block down (logical thinking).
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*Candy Kappa* · 10-01-2010, 06:04 AM

Sounds like a book Tigi Mataalii would write... or read

azrael · 10-01-2010, 10:46 PM

A quick search has him as a senior in kendo and judo with olympic medals ..... He has read it, I would almost bet he has. For anyone who is in a bad spot in life, takes martial arts, draws, writes, or almost anything can get something from THE BOOK OF FIVE RINGS, BY MIYAMOTO MUSASHI.
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*Candy Kappa* · 10-02-2010, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by azrael

A quick search has him as a senior in kendo and judo with olympic medals ..... He has read it, I would almost bet he has. For anyone who is in a bad spot in life, takes martial arts, draws, writes, or almost anything can get something from THE BOOK OF FIVE RINGS, BY MIYAMOTO MUSASHI.

yeah... did you also find he is a hack and a fake?

he claims to have won Olympics Medals in Judo and Karate in the 1968 Olympics. Two problems, one Karate is NOT a Olympic sport and Judo wasn't in event in 1968. and the videos you can find about him, he's just doing simple "magic" tricks, some he don't even do properly.

The man is also with a guy named Greg Parker and his cult of wannabee ninjas. They call them selves Choson Ninja and claims Ninjitsu and all kinds of martial arts comes from Korea and steals techniques from real schools and replicates them so poorly it's laughable.

best part with this group is that Greg their own leader ruined his own bluff by presenting a straight Katana sword and said it had been passed down for generations and was a genuine Ninja sword.

azrael · 10-02-2010, 10:05 AM

I did not know that I simply googled his name I did not click on the links....

Miyamoto Musashi is one of the greatest swordsmen of Japan.
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*Hannah* · 10-02-2010, 05:44 PM

Okay, seriously. This is why I've come to resent this section. Jesus f*cking Christ. This forums is full of idiots. I quit. I'm done.

*Koi* · 10-02-2010, 06:42 PM

I thought they were all being sarcastic... :l

*Katie* · 10-03-2010, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by azrael

Katies way is more scientific, maybe alchemic. I can agree with that. Have you ever tried to do it? I think if you did you would have to get that mental block down (logical thinking).

See, I stopped believing in magic when I was a little Katie. I don't believe that (in the way you're talking about anyway) manipulating matter is possible. Old hokey religions and whatnot. Now my ancestors believed in that kind of stuff...dream walking...shapeshifting...spirit guides and all that hooey. Know how you get those beliefs? Too much time in the smoke lodge.

*Candy Kappa* · 10-04-2010, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by azrael

Miyamoto Musashi is one of the greatest swordsmen of Japan.

you do know his book is philosophical and not literal?

Go Rin No Sho is a book about Martial Arts, Swordsmanship and military Strategy with a very heavy philosophical way of writing. It have nothing to do with elemental bending or magic, it's a bout becoming a better killer in combat.

and by this thread I'd say you did not get the meaning of the book, and I will be as rude to say I think you are not fit to read Go Rin No Sho.

azrael · 10-04-2010, 11:58 AM

Wow so I guess you are, congradulations. So you already knew musashi wrote the book of five rings to contain the hidden kata for his school, among other deeper meanings.... Also by the way your wrong, its not about being a better killer, its about being a better strategic person (thats why in some buisness schools you would read this). You sir are very immature to think its about killing. I also never said that its about bending elements like the last airbender. I simply ment the elements from within. I made 2 seperate statements maybe to talk about philosophies and if that did not work then maybe some people still believe in questionable things.
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09-22-2010, 11:00 PM	#1
azrael Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: loganville, ga Posts: 1,362	Unbelievable... Does anyone here believe in the manipulation of elements? Fire, earth, air, water, and void... I read the book of 5 rings almost like a bible. Each time I read it I feel as if I unlock a deeper or hidden meaning. ________ VanitBeauty Last edited by azrael; 08-12-2011 at 10:34 PM.

09-24-2010, 12:54 PM	#2
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	Nope. I think it's too illogical like many other things. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

09-24-2010, 04:05 PM	#3
azrael Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: loganville, ga Posts: 1,362	How is it illogical? I know this maybe a stupid example but what about the history show where they find "real" superpowers? there are video on line of a guy from the 60's(?) egniting a news paper with just thought. What about shaolin monks? Are you a seeing is believing? ________ Harriet Last edited by azrael; 08-12-2011 at 10:35 PM.

09-24-2010, 10:50 PM	#4
Venom Space Knight Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Colorado Posts: 3,637	I believe it's possible to a very limited degree since everything in its most basic form is nothing more than frequencies, vibrations, and wavelengths. Of course, our small size in comparison to the universe at large would make any disturbance we created seem like prestidigitation. There is certainly far more things that seems "illogical" that are perfectly natural and explainable, our limited knowledge only deems them as "illogical". __________________

09-25-2010, 02:27 PM	#5
shuriken Second City Shinobi Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chi-town Posts: 4,182	Well considering that everything in it's most basic form is energyand atoms, than yes I do believe that we as humans do have this capacity to a very small degree manipulate fire, air, and water. Not so sure about earth though. Also taking into account what we see touch taste and smell is only like 1/100th of reality it would be "illogical" not to think that certain people have at least a miniscule amount of manipulative powers. My two cents __________________ Some things are better left unsaid. This isn't one of them

09-26-2010, 08:41 PM	#6
Katie Just...way too serious. Join Date: May 2005 Location: purgatory Posts: 3,519	We do manipulate the elements. Ever build a fire? Use an air-conditioner? Or a fan? Turn on or off a water faucet....or freeze or boil water? Ever built a sand castle? __________________ THE WORLD IS JUST AWESOME

09-26-2010, 09:25 PM	#7
shuriken Second City Shinobi Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Chi-town Posts: 4,182	^^ Touche'. Although I'm pretty sure Azrael meant something a little more along the lines of Airbender. Regardless, you win. __________________ Some things are better left unsaid. This isn't one of them

09-27-2010, 06:55 PM	#9
azrael Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: loganville, ga Posts: 1,362	It seems like when I first read it I took it as surface value then the more I read it its almost as if my character and demeanor change like how to manipulate the elements with my self to perform when nessacary. (although it doesnt help with spelling ) Its wierd I really cant explain it i dont think. When I train it shows. ________ MAGIC FLIGHT LAUNCH BOX Last edited by azrael; 08-12-2011 at 10:35 PM.

09-29-2010, 09:31 AM	#10
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	Yes, I'm the type that doesn't believe in things unless I get proof. I'm just more of a logical person than most people I guess. I just don't see the logic in manipulating the elements in the way you've described. Katie's example is definitely proof that we can manipulate elements in our human way. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

09-30-2010, 08:06 PM	#11
azrael Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: loganville, ga Posts: 1,362	Katies way is more scientific, maybe alchemic. I can agree with that. Have you ever tried to do it? I think if you did you would have to get that mental block down (logical thinking). ________ Web Shows Last edited by azrael; 08-12-2011 at 10:35 PM.

10-01-2010, 06:04 AM	#12
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10-01-2010, 10:46 PM	#13
azrael Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: loganville, ga Posts: 1,362	A quick search has him as a senior in kendo and judo with olympic medals ..... He has read it, I would almost bet he has. For anyone who is in a bad spot in life, takes martial arts, draws, writes, or almost anything can get something from THE BOOK OF FIVE RINGS, BY MIYAMOTO MUSASHI. ________ milf Cams Last edited by azrael; 08-12-2011 at 10:36 PM.

10-02-2010, 10:05 AM	#15
azrael Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: loganville, ga Posts: 1,362	I did not know that I simply googled his name I did not click on the links.... Miyamoto Musashi is one of the greatest swordsmen of Japan. ________ Mature live Last edited by azrael; 08-12-2011 at 10:36 PM.

10-02-2010, 05:44 PM	#16
Hannah Once more, with feeling! Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 4,111	Okay, seriously. This is why I've come to resent this section. Jesus f*cking Christ. This forums is full of idiots. I quit. I'm done. __________________

10-02-2010, 06:42 PM	#17
Koi Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,787	I thought they were all being sarcastic... :l

10-04-2010, 11:58 AM	#20
azrael Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: loganville, ga Posts: 1,362	Wow so I guess you are, congradulations. So you already knew musashi wrote the book of five rings to contain the hidden kata for his school, among other deeper meanings.... Also by the way your wrong, its not about being a better killer, its about being a better strategic person (thats why in some buisness schools you would read this). You sir are very immature to think its about killing. I also never said that its about bending elements like the last airbender. I simply ment the elements from within. I made 2 seperate statements maybe to talk about philosophies and if that did not work then maybe some people still believe in questionable things. ________ HOW TO ROLL A JOINT Last edited by azrael; 08-12-2011 at 10:36 PM.