The Simpsons facing possible cancelation after Season 23 - Page 2

*TheCanadiandrome* · 10-05-2011, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by The Chicken Whisperer

God, I hope it doesn't get cancelled. Yeah, it's definitely passed it's prime, but it's an American institution.

Besides Bob's Burgers, Fox really will be the Seth MacFarlane network. (I don't expect Napolean Dynamite or that new Jonah Hill show to last long)

Bob's Burgers got canned didn't it? And what is the Jonah Hill show any way? is it that stupid crap that was previewed through out last Sunday?

and yeah Simpsons is not just an American Institution, but a World-Wide Phenomonan! However, if it ends after 23 seasons so be it, but perhaps another movie would be the best way to end it

*CyberCubed* · 10-05-2011, 03:41 PM

There are still 6 holdover episodes after Season 23, so those would make an incredibly short Season 24 and give the series a proper finale.

*Slap-Happy* · 10-05-2011, 05:14 PM

If it is being cancelled, I say there should just be an hour long special with every character and alive guest stars making appearances.

*XERO* · 10-05-2011, 07:09 PM

23 seasons?

Damn, the show is old enough to finish college.

*Spitfire* · 10-05-2011, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

The VA's were the reason for the shows success as much as the writers/creators were.

They simply want to know that after the show is canceled and put on syndication, that they'll continue to get money after.

They don't need that money though and further more it depends on the contracts they signed. If they blindly signed a contract several years ago that's on them. None of the Star Wars cast, which arguably make the movie, get dick from Lucas because they signed their likeness away. Darth Vader never even got paid for Return of the Jedi. Just because you were part of what made something successful doesn't mean you're entitled to extra money.

A true artist is someone who is willing to take pay cuts so something can be made. Like Keanu Reeves taking no pay for the last two Matrix movies so his cost could be put towards the special effects budget. He already knew he didn't need the extra money so he put it back into the movie for the fans. Kevin Bacon took a huge pay decrease for The Woodsman just because he wanted to see it get made and knew the production couldn't afford him. These VAs refusing to decrease their asking price is like them saying FU to the fans. The fans who put them where they are. If you ask me that's BS and I'd say F them too.

*Guitar_Raph* · 10-05-2011, 11:17 PM

It's not gonna be the same on Sundays after 23 seasons. And when they may reach 500 episodes.

But that's not the oldest Fox show, it's Cops (Bad boys. bad boys). It dryhroned Gunsmoke/Law & Order as the longest running prime time entertainemnt seris (not counting news magazines).

And it's the only show left that debuted when Father Bush was President.

*TheCanadiandrome* · 10-06-2011, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Guitar_Raph

It's not gonna be the same on Sundays after 23 seasons. And when they may reach 500 episodes.

But that's not the oldest Fox show, it's Cops (Bad boys. bad boys). It dryhroned Gunsmoke/Law & Order as the longest running prime time entertainemnt seris (not counting news magazines).

And it's the only show left that debuted when Father Bush was President.

Didn't know that

*BubblyShell22* · 10-06-2011, 07:49 AM

Yeah, I think Bob's Burgers got cancelled, which sucks. As for The Simpsons, didn't this happen once before and they negotiated? It could be that they negotiate again, and the series stays around. However, if it doesn't, it doesn't. We'll always get reruns on our local stations that we can watch and the DVDs.

**Jester** · 10-06-2011, 08:21 AM

Spitfire, did you just call Keanu Reeves a "true artist"?

In all seriousness though technically NO actor needs that kind of money. It's not like their job is that hard. It's like professional athletes. They don't really need that much money either...but they get it. Why? Because they have a "rare skill set" (total bull, but whatever) and teams are willing to pay that because they make them money in excess of their outlandish salary. Fox makes a killing of the Simpsons in merchandising, reruns, and everything else, why is it so wrong for the cast of the show to want their piece of the pie?

*The Stryker* · 10-06-2011, 09:24 AM

So you're comparing a person that does funny voices in a room to professional athletes?

I think salaries for athletes are blown up all to sh*t but that's a bit ridiculous.

*BubblyShell22* · 10-06-2011, 02:09 PM

Well, humans are greedy and always want more. That's human nature. Isn't that the reason for the NBA lockout, or is that for some other reason?

*sdp* · 10-06-2011, 02:22 PM

Remember that some salaries are paid because of demand, is it fair that if a movie makes millions of dollars the main actor only get paid a small amount because acting isn't necessarily hard? No.

As far as the Simpsons, yeah later seasons weren't as good maybe but there is still a good share of episodes in them not to mention people seem to view the older seasons like they were gold and it's a lot of nostalgia as well, I mean not all of the criticisms of newer seasons are necessarily valid, not saying there aren't any. I'm fine with the Simpsons ending as long as they knew a season beforehand or at least a real season finale, we deserve that. I wouldn't mind seeing more movies, which I think is a possibility.

*CyberCubed* · 10-06-2011, 03:12 PM

Now Fox is saying that even if the VA's take paycuts, Season 24 would be the last season of the series:

http://www.avclub.com/articles/fox-e...would-l,62930/

I guess its true, Simpsons is actually ending. The only question is now whether Season 23 is the end, of if the VA's agree to paycuts for one final Season 24.

Simpsons will end in either May 2012 or May 2013...

*TheCanadiandrome* · 10-06-2011, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Now Fox is saying that even if the VA's take paycuts, Season 24 would be the last season of the series:

http://www.avclub.com/articles/fox-e...would-l,62930/

I guess its true, Simpsons is actually ending. The only question is now whether Season 23 is the end, of if the VA's agree to paycuts for one final Season 24.

Simpsons will end in either May 2012 or May 2013...

well, if it's true, they should do one more movie

*ZariusTwo* · 10-06-2011, 04:27 PM

I heard somewhere they would only do another movie if the show ended, guess now is the time.

I count the first movie as the finale anyway.

*TheCanadiandrome* · 10-06-2011, 04:33 PM

allot of people didn't like the first movie, so if there's another one, then there's a chance they could make it better

*Ninjinister* · 10-06-2011, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Spitfire

Recording lines is insanely simple.

You know nothing about how voice acting works.

**Jester** · 10-06-2011, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by The Ninjinister

You know nothing about how voice acting works.

Samurai Mikey: MY HERO!

*CyberCubed* · 10-06-2011, 08:01 PM

If it gets a Season 24, its likely to be the final one.

Remember Fox has The Flintstones reboot coming in 2013, seems like an obvious Simpsons replacement.

**Jester** · 10-06-2011, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Remember Fox has The Flintstones reboot coming in 2013, seems like an obvious Simpsons replacement.

I'd like to forget. Do we really need 4 Seth MacFarlane produced animated series on 1 network?

Maybe Simpsons will more to Comedy Central, and Matt Groening and MacFarlane can go toe to toe on their own networks...

10-05-2011, 07:09 PM	#24
XERO Hybrid Theorist Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Alamo City Posts: 8,185	23 seasons? Damn, the show is old enough to finish college. __________________ "Travel at the speed of light... then hit the nitro!"

10-05-2011, 11:17 PM	#26
Guitar_Raph Superhero musician Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 2,191	It's not gonna be the same on Sundays after 23 seasons. And when they may reach 500 episodes. But that's not the oldest Fox show, it's Cops (Bad boys. bad boys). It dryhroned Gunsmoke/Law & Order as the longest running prime time entertainemnt seris (not counting news magazines). And it's the only show left that debuted when Father Bush was President. __________________ Mikey drums with nunchucks!

10-06-2011, 07:49 AM	#28
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	Yeah, I think Bob's Burgers got cancelled, which sucks. As for The Simpsons, didn't this happen once before and they negotiated? It could be that they negotiate again, and the series stays around. However, if it doesn't, it doesn't. We'll always get reruns on our local stations that we can watch and the DVDs. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

10-06-2011, 08:21 AM	#29
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,301	Spitfire, did you just call Keanu Reeves a "true artist"? In all seriousness though technically NO actor needs that kind of money. It's not like their job is that hard. It's like professional athletes. They don't really need that much money either...but they get it. Why? Because they have a "rare skill set" (total bull, but whatever) and teams are willing to pay that because they make them money in excess of their outlandish salary. Fox makes a killing of the Simpsons in merchandising, reruns, and everything else, why is it so wrong for the cast of the show to want their piece of the pie? __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

10-06-2011, 09:24 AM	#30
The Stryker Stupid Rich Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Room 237 Posts: 11,152	So you're comparing a person that does funny voices in a room to professional athletes? I think salaries for athletes are blown up all to sh*t but that's a bit ridiculous. __________________ @~<3 Mom~@

10-05-2011, 03:41 PM	#22
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,887	There are still 6 holdover episodes after Season 23, so those would make an incredibly short Season 24 and give the series a proper finale.

10-05-2011, 05:14 PM	#23
Slap-Happy Bad Boy Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 1,911	If it is being cancelled, I say there should just be an hour long special with every character and alive guest stars making appearances.

10-06-2011, 02:09 PM	#31
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	Well, humans are greedy and always want more. That's human nature. Isn't that the reason for the NBA lockout, or is that for some other reason? __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

10-06-2011, 02:22 PM	#32
sdp Detoxed Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 11,222	Remember that some salaries are paid because of demand, is it fair that if a movie makes millions of dollars the main actor only get paid a small amount because acting isn't necessarily hard? No. As far as the Simpsons, yeah later seasons weren't as good maybe but there is still a good share of episodes in them not to mention people seem to view the older seasons like they were gold and it's a lot of nostalgia as well, I mean not all of the criticisms of newer seasons are necessarily valid, not saying there aren't any. I'm fine with the Simpsons ending as long as they knew a season beforehand or at least a real season finale, we deserve that. I wouldn't mind seeing more movies, which I think is a possibility. __________________ *Trapt* *urself Page MiscRave!!!* Click to join The Drome Discord server

10-06-2011, 03:12 PM	#33
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,887	Now Fox is saying that even if the VA's take paycuts, Season 24 would be the last season of the series: http://www.avclub.com/articles/fox-e...would-l,62930/ I guess its true, Simpsons is actually ending. The only question is now whether Season 23 is the end, of if the VA's agree to paycuts for one final Season 24. Simpsons will end in either May 2012 or May 2013...

10-06-2011, 04:27 PM	#35
ZariusTwo Overlord Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Britain, DINO THUNDER...POWER UP! Posts: 22,501	I heard somewhere they would only do another movie if the show ended, guess now is the time. I count the first movie as the finale anyway. __________________ Spider-Man: The Rescue Spider-Man: The Galloping Cat Spider-Man: Scarlet Mirror Doctor Who: Child of the Daleks

10-06-2011, 04:33 PM	#36
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10-06-2011, 08:01 PM	#39
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,887	If it gets a Season 24, its likely to be the final one. Remember Fox has The Flintstones reboot coming in 2013, seems like an obvious Simpsons replacement.