Talkback: Laird's 2k3 development notes! - Page 15

*BubblyShell22* · 04-30-2012, 04:56 PM

Yeah, I couldn't stop grinning at that little bit either. That was funny.

*Xav* · 04-30-2012, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

The cartoons have always had a problem finding a Shredder replacement. The old show tried with Lord Dregg, Season 4 tried with Karai and Bishop, Season 6 with Shokonobo...and then they just went back to Cyber Shredder.

Though Karai in season 4 did become the Shredder.

*TurtleTitan97* · 04-30-2012, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Killer Moth

Speaking of "DNA Is Thicker...," the recently released first draft has this exchange between Mike and Dark Mike:

"ON MIKEY/DARK MIKEY – charging. Mikey jumps over Dark Mikey. Dark Mikey stops - confused! Dark Mikey turns around.
ON MIKEY – he smirks, waves, and extends his left arm OFF-CAM.
MICHELANGELO (O/C)
Over here!
Mikey speaks out of the corner of his mouth (ala ventriloquism) as CAM PANS the length of Mikey’s left arm REVEALING he has EYES painted on his hand and is doing a Senor Wences-style DUMMY.
MICHELANGELO
(in a high-pitched voice)
No…over here!
D. MIKEY looks BACK/FORTH between Mikey and his hand - CONFUSED.
DARK MICHELANGELO
Aargh! What manner of SORCERY IS this?"

Laird's response is what anyone would expect:

Oh. My. God.

http://peterlairdstmntblog.blogspot....40-dna-is.html

I know it's bad and shouldn't have been done, at all, yet I can't stop grinning.

That was funny. Dark Mikey's line there reminded me of Hudson's line from Disney's Gargolyes.

Killer Moth · 04-30-2012, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BubblyShell22

Yeah, I couldn't stop grinning at that little bit either. That was funny.

It was Dark Mike's reaction that really sealed the deal for me. Heh.

Anyway, I forgot to include this in my previous post, as our young, hip generation may not have heard of Senor Wences:

S'alright? S'alright.

Killer Moth · 05-10-2012, 04:08 PM

(Apologies for the double post, but I had to share this.)

The recently released "Day of Awakening" first draft contains a rather interesting insult Serling would have had for Viral:

"TURTLE X/SERLING LANDS between Cody and Viral.
SERLING
Have at thee, harlot!"

Laird's reaction:

"Have at thee, harlot"? WTF??!!! Why is Serling suddenly spouting pseudo-Shakespearianisms and calling Viral a whore? VERY weird.

http://peterlairdstmntblog.blogspot....ge-mouser.html

Have fun with this one. Here is to hoping no writer would do the same thing with trollop or hussy in the new Nicktoon.

*Xav* · 05-13-2012, 04:30 PM

Hey we get a look at the lost Forward episodes.
http://peterlairdstmntblog.blogspot....-go-again.html

*CyberCubed* · 05-15-2012, 01:19 AM

Seems like we didn't miss much. Ch'rell returned in Turtles Forever anyway, the Serling ep was saved in BTTS, and "Master Fighter" has the completed animatic we saw. Lastly the final ep is very similar to what we get in BTTS' first episode.

Some of those story ideas are really stupid. Constable Biggles reprogrammed to arrest the Turtles? Darius Dunn building evil Turtle robots to attack the Dark Turtles with?

The only story I like is the one where Baxter gets a new human body, for obvious reasons.

*TheSkeletonMan939* · 05-15-2012, 05:08 AM

Reading these FF scripts shows that the people at 4Kids are complete idiots when it comes to writing a basic story.

**Jester** · 05-15-2012, 05:20 AM

Wait...Leatherhead transfering his essence into a Utrom...What. The. Heck.

*BubblyShell22* · 05-15-2012, 08:35 AM

I laughed at Serling's line. That just made me laugh. They probably thought that since he's British, they'd have him quote Shakespeare.

*oldmanwinters* · 05-15-2012, 10:38 AM

Oooo, Triceraton Shredder has a pretty awesome profile:
http://peterlairdstmntblog.blogspot....3-2007-re.html

*Xav* · 05-15-2012, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Seems like we didn't miss much. Ch'rell returned in Turtles Forever anyway, the Serling ep was saved in BTTS, and "Master Fighter" has the completed animatic we saw. Lastly the final ep is very similar to what we get in BTTS' first episode.

I don't see how the final ep is similar to the first BTTS episode, other than the fact that the turtles return home.

*MikeandRaph87* · 05-15-2012, 11:11 AM

Chr'ell was the Shredder again here in a facehugger situation of a Triceraton correct?

*CyberCubed* · 05-15-2012, 12:45 PM

Yes originally Ch'rell was to return in FF. I am glad it didn't happen, saving his return for the finale of the show was much more epic.

As I said, the only story I wish we got was seeing Baxter get a new human body.

Killer Moth · 05-16-2012, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

Oooo, Triceraton Shredder has a pretty awesome profile:
http://peterlairdstmntblog.blogspot....3-2007-re.html

Indeed, except his rather distracting Triceraton-designed shoulder pads. Might be a tad problematic in animating fight scenes with them, but maybe not. They still look cool, nevertheless. And between the actual helmet and the chest armor, it's FTW, right there.

Not sure what to make of Leatherhead as an Utrom. I could see it, as Mirage canon has him tied with them, but it's hard to see a brusier gator mutant become that. If they really wanted to, and before Baxter's body was about to be restored, the "Character X becomes an Utrom" would have been perfect for him. If not as a callback to Laird's second movie plotbunny, then to Baxter's temporary use of an Utrom exo-suit in "City At War." That really would have made for some fun and distant foreshadowing.

Then again, 2003 Baxter deserved a happier ending and to be whole again, so it's just as well if they didn't. Just thinking out loud.

Killer Moth · 05-23-2012, 06:26 PM

Laird released the second draft with the Triceraton Shredder intro episode, today (apparently, he didn't get the first draft, at the time, so he posted what he had, instead):

http://peterlairdstmntblog.blogspot....4-2007-re.html

Also includes the Ch'rell facehugger art that mikeandraph mentioned. Enjoy.

*oldmanwinters* · 05-23-2012, 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Killer Moth

Laird released the second draft with the Triceraton Shredder intro episode, today (apparently, he didn't get the first draft, at the time, so he posted what he had, instead):

http://peterlairdstmntblog.blogspot....4-2007-re.html

Also includes the Ch'rell facehugger art that mikeandraph mentioned. Enjoy.

Wow!

Yeah... Triceraton Shredder = cool, Ch'rell facehugger Triceraton Shredder = not so much.

*Xav* · 05-23-2012, 08:05 PM

I guess this means TMNT4Kids wasn't joking after all.

*CyberCubed* · 05-23-2012, 08:13 PM

Its interesting to see they already had almost completed scripts for new FF episodes before they abandoned them.

At least we know none of them had completed animation, as "Master Fighter 2105" was the first episode and it still only had only a completed animatric but it wasn't animated.

*MikeandRaph87* · 05-23-2012, 08:17 PM

How many Fastforward "Season 2" episodes were there before it was scrapped?

04-30-2012, 04:56 PM	#281
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	Yeah, I couldn't stop grinning at that little bit either. That was funny. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

05-15-2012, 05:20 AM	#289
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,301	Wait...Leatherhead transfering his essence into a Utrom...What. The. Heck. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

05-15-2012, 08:35 AM	#290
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	I laughed at Serling's line. That just made me laugh. They probably thought that since he's British, they'd have him quote Shakespeare. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

05-15-2012, 10:38 AM	#291
oldmanwinters Overlord Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Between yesterday and tomorrow! Posts: 15,511	Oooo, Triceraton Shredder has a pretty awesome profile: http://peterlairdstmntblog.blogspot....3-2007-re.html __________________ Experience the TMNT Fan Commentaries! Check out my TMNT fan comic, "Nothing to Fear"! View my sketch work! I'm selling some of my hard-to-find TMNT items!

05-15-2012, 11:11 AM	#293
MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,188	Chr'ell was the Shredder again here in a facehugger situation of a Triceraton correct? __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon!

05-10-2012, 04:08 PM	#285
Killer Moth Hench Mutant Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 384	(Apologies for the double post, but I had to share this.) The recently released "Day of Awakening" first draft contains a rather interesting insult Serling would have had for Viral: "TURTLE X/SERLING LANDS between Cody and Viral. SERLING Have at thee, harlot!" Laird's reaction: "Have at thee, harlot"? WTF??!!! Why is Serling suddenly spouting pseudo-Shakespearianisms and calling Viral a whore? VERY weird. http://peterlairdstmntblog.blogspot....ge-mouser.html Have fun with this one. Here is to hoping no writer would do the same thing with trollop or hussy in the new Nicktoon.

05-13-2012, 04:30 PM	#286
Xav Foot Elite Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 3,045	Hey we get a look at the lost Forward episodes. http://peterlairdstmntblog.blogspot....-go-again.html

05-15-2012, 01:19 AM	#287
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,899	Seems like we didn't miss much. Ch'rell returned in Turtles Forever anyway, the Serling ep was saved in BTTS, and "Master Fighter" has the completed animatic we saw. Lastly the final ep is very similar to what we get in BTTS' first episode. Some of those story ideas are really stupid. Constable Biggles reprogrammed to arrest the Turtles? Darius Dunn building evil Turtle robots to attack the Dark Turtles with? The only story I like is the one where Baxter gets a new human body, for obvious reasons.

05-15-2012, 12:45 PM	#294
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,899	Yes originally Ch'rell was to return in FF. I am glad it didn't happen, saving his return for the finale of the show was much more epic. As I said, the only story I wish we got was seeing Baxter get a new human body.

05-23-2012, 06:26 PM	#296
Killer Moth Hench Mutant Join Date: Feb 2012 Posts: 384	Laird released the second draft with the Triceraton Shredder intro episode, today (apparently, he didn't get the first draft, at the time, so he posted what he had, instead): http://peterlairdstmntblog.blogspot....4-2007-re.html Also includes the Ch'rell facehugger art that mikeandraph mentioned. Enjoy.

05-23-2012, 08:05 PM	#298
Xav Foot Elite Join Date: Mar 2010 Posts: 3,045	I guess this means TMNT4Kids wasn't joking after all.

05-23-2012, 08:13 PM	#299
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,899	Its interesting to see they already had almost completed scripts for new FF episodes before they abandoned them. At least we know none of them had completed animation, as "Master Fighter 2105" was the first episode and it still only had only a completed animatric but it wasn't animated.

05-23-2012, 08:17 PM	#300
MikeandRaph87 Jedi Master Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: JLA Satellite Headquarters Posts: 11,188	How many Fastforward "Season 2" episodes were there before it was scrapped? __________________ Michelangelo: This looks like a job for the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles! Raphael: Sheesh, Mikey this ain't a cartoon!