"Secret Wars" Event To Merge Mainstream And Ultimate Marvel Universes Together

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Originally Posted by plastroncafe

Really? You think so?
Because I don't, and I say that as a Marvel fan a bit older than both you and Cyber.

I really like Kamala, but then...I've always been a fan of "Slice of Life" stories.
Give me the X-Men playing touch-no powers-football on the front law of the Xavier Institute over building punching fight action any day.

Anyhow, catering to fossils like us isn't going to get Marvel the money it needs to keep its print run in the black.

Comics fans are the biggest babies. Just say you don't like a thing, then don't buy a thing, and leave it at that. There's no need for personal attacks on the creators, even in hyperbole.

I mean....seriously Duckie? Wanting to shoot the author of Ms Marvel. She's actually a personal friend of mine. Feel bad about your word choice.

If you are, it's probably not by much. Over 40, then? What the heck does that even have to do with it?

Yes, I like "slice of life" stuff too, but THIS- it just felt forced and boring, and very cliché. She's the typical whiney, rebellious teen of a strict religious upbringing (and this isn't just a Muslim thing, but they played that trope HEAVILY) trying to "be her own person" by defying her parents. I saw it coming after the second page, and that's really sad. I couldn't even find anything to like about the characters, as they were all so very one-dimensional that I just didn't care about them at all. Not ONE.

Also, you DO realize I was speaking metaphorically, right? Not that I'd ever actually shoot the writer, but this is one of the worst writing mistakes a person can make, and it was so glaringly obvious it pretty much ruined any possible enjoyment I could've had from seeing a fresh take on a character- not that I wanted one to begin with, but creating a new character for the sake of change and/or diversity is just- cheap. Maybe it's not the writer but the editorial staff's decree, don't know, and don't care. It was just very trite and predictable. And boring. Did I mention boring?

Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

Racial stereotyped? How is Kamala's family racially stereotyped? Cause she has strict parents that are religious??(they do exist, my parents are religious and watched what I did)

how do you want her family to act like? How would you prefer Kamala act like?

Have you ever met a Muslim family before? (no seriously have you? maybe I'm ignorant)

Ya know maybe I'm young but Kamala is someone I can relate too.....you can have your old characters I'll take my new ones.

also she's an inhuman.

Strict religious upbringing isn't JUST restricted to Islamic families, you know. My own grandmother is one of the biggest strict church-goers I've ever known, and would flip out if she knew I was Wiccan. You think Muslims are bad about strict upbringings? Try dealing with die-hard conservative Christians who want to "save your soul" the minute they find out you have a different faith, because they automatically assume it's devil-worship. Trust me, I've heard them all. Or a Mormon boyfriend I had in high school who couldn't even watch R-rated movies, drink caffeine, or.... You get the idea. So Islam doesn't have a monopoly on that sort of thing. But they used just about every Muslim trope in the book with this family- the well-meaning but traditional strict father, the over-protective, guilt-tripper mother ("You've shamed your family!") and the devout "wanna-be holy man" brother. Seriously, it was all very blatant and annoying.

And yes, I've known a few, I even have a few Muslim and Hindu families that are regular customers where I work, and I see how they act. But it's clear the writer just went with the obvious religious stereotypes instead of making them more three-dimensional people with real interests and lives.

How would I want them to act? Can't say, really, but it's not THAT. I was rolling my eyes at her mother's histrionics every other page, her dad being the "this is for your own good" tyrant type, and her friend just being the "perfect Muslim girl" who seems content to go along with tradition, while Kamala herself seems to rebel at every little thing, all while complaining that "no one understands me!" (And either geeking out or advertising her geek status in almost every panel.) She's the minister's daughter in Footloose, but with a different faith. Which I guess makes her friend at the Circle Q Kevin Bacon....

I could maybe relate to her fan-fic writing- that part was kind of neat- but the rest? She just wasn't very likable for me, because it felt too much like she was SUPPOSED to be likable, with no real GOOD reason for her to be. The writer was trying too hard to MAKE the reader like her.

Also- how is she an Inhuman? They were a separate RACE from the humans of earth, and the Tuigan Mist doesn't affect normal humans the same way it does them. It doesn't even affect mutants the same way- it can restore lost powers, but always warps them somehow.