If Nickelodeon never bought TMNT

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Originally Posted by neatoman

They didn't even make twice the budget back.

No but I wouldn't say they were total flops.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Where does that leave us? Out of the Shadows netted 136 million against a 215 production/marketing budget. Ouch.

I get what you're saying, the film needed to make at least twice as much money back. I just think it would have been worse had the film not broke even.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

They don't have any deadly sides. Their shtick is camp and sight gags and goofy humor. They literally didn't hurt a fly in the whole Fred Wolf show that I'm aware of and this idea that they're sadistic heavy hitters is entirely imaginary and revisionist history.

Bebop and Rocksteady were brawn over brains. They were totally destructive because they were strong but also because they were thick. Go back the pilot, they gave the Turtles a run for their money when they were first introduced only for the Turtles to show more intelligence than them. Throughout the cartoon the mutants continue to cause mayhem. They can't really say on the cartoon that off screen someone has been killed but at least on screen they don't kill anyone. So I ask the question: are Bebop and Rocksteady a threat in the FW cartoon with my answer being yes and no. They don't kill anyone but they can cause enough carnage to be a threat to the Turtles. They are comedy henchmen but their brute strength as well as reckless behaviour with weapons also makes them trouble. Anyone who says they were evil and dark characters on the series have no idea what they're talking about.

Originally Posted by ssjup81

Return of the Jedi was my favorite as a kid because I liked the Ewoks. lol

Still is for me.