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Old 06-30-2020, 05:49 PM   #24
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Still better than movement that wants to censor comic books.
There isn't a movement to censor comics. What comicsgate was against was what they saw as 'forced diversity' and writers pushing what they saw as a liberal agenda and used the argument that it was hurting sales.

The irony is that the reason Marvel went down that route was because they hit three home runs in a row with Miles Morales, Kamala Khan and Jane Foster-Thor. They saw those successes particularly in mediums like trade and digital which made them more money and wanted more of the same.


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Most of the characters who are about to be "canceled" or recasted are not stereotypes either.
They didn't need to be recast them. Literally no one was asking for that but after the show badly botched their response to nuanced and mild criticisms that resulted from Konubalu's documentary they obviously felt they needed a big gesture to correct the ship.

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Maybe WB has some sort of professional integrity?
And, besides, when companies see they have an obvious stinker on their hands, they let reviewers to give they real thoughts about the product. Like in case of Rise of the Skywalker, since one thing is manufacture opinion when the movie is just divisive, like The Last Jedi or Captain Marvel and another, is trying to pretend that pile of **** is a diamond. If, say, 80% say that movie is bad, no amount of good reviews will salvage it. It's just a waste of money. Word of mouth will sink it anyway.
If I recall The Last Jedi got good reviews. The movie is not my cup of tea but I can see why critics liked it. It's basically an auteur movie from a franchise which after The Force Awakens was looking like a manufactured product. The movie wasn't for me but I actually respect the gutsyness.

Captain Marvel wasn't really divisive. It was an above average movie that got above average reviews. The only divisive part was that so many people took umbridge with a superhero movie about a womz that they lost their **** over it and started making up conspiracy theories that Disney bought all the tickets and that it was playing to empty theaters.

No one corporation (or as you call the corpoRATions) has that level professional integrity. Disney/Marvel/Pixar doesn't buy good reviews it simply knows how to make movies that appeal to a mass audience.

Granted the ubiquity of movies from the above studios does help shape the perception of what is considered good film making but what works...well works. Deviate from that you'd better know you're doing.

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MCU movies are not outright political either, no more than any other standard Hollywood fare.

Also, it was not anti-SJW crowd which "made" Snyder's cut into something "political". It were journasluts who have started crying that it helps "alt-right", because, coproRATions obviously should follow the party line and not pander to common folk.

If left propagandists would've stayed silent and didn't start drama on the empty place - most people wouldn't really care about it one way or the other.

Also, what little part of people on Internet think, doesn't really indicate anything about the project. Unless you want propose that AT&T / WB is ruled by "alt-right", but this is so hilarious stupid, that I hope you won't go into that direction.
There's many reasons why it's ended up this way. Firstly brand loyalty is a big thing to comic books whether you're DC or Marvel. That's when you get people defending to the death movies they feel aren't really good because it's their team. Notice when Joss Whedon signed on to Justice League a lot of people who had spent years saying that DC movies had more integrity than the brainless Marvel movies were actually Joss was coming aboard to to correct the ship...then when that didn't work they were back to wanting this mythical Snyder (which didn't even exist).

No one is suggesting that the alt-right has taken control of Warner Bros. What I am suggesting is that the movement to get the Snyder cut released was propped up by people who have little interest in it other than they feel Marvel is all SJW hence why it also got coverage on certain websites and certain youtubers were obsessed with it and thinks that a win for the the distinguished competition knocks Marvel.

I'm not really sure it actually happening is a win for that crowd though. It's not suddenly going to replace the Whedon version as movie canon (such as that counts) as it's likely going to get Flashpointed into something more palatable to a mainstream audience for good or ill Ava Duvarney is still going to make that New Gods movie and everyone is going to have to deal with that.
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