Official Justice League Movie

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Just got done watching it. I thought it was great, but I also thought that the Whedon cut wasn't anywhere as bad as people who were lambasting it. Somewhere in this thread Leo656 made a point about people bashing the movie for things that in any other movies wouldn't have been a big deal. People get on board with their BS because it's the thing to do.

Not for me. The 2017 version straight up disrespected it’s audience and you can see it all over the film. I had no desire to dislike the movie after looking forward to it for years, but any movie that opens up with a big, scary, flappy cgi lip on Superman, well... it’s not a good sign. I’d rip into any movie, if it shared the same problems as JL.

I think most importantly this version of the movie actually paints a huge picture for me regarding Cyborg-guy's ******** in real life. I liked him in both cuts, but it's very clear that Whedon's version removed Cyborg from the heart of the movie, and given Cyborg-guy's complaints now it seems even more like it was sour grapes. Like he knew that his signficant role was reduced and that was his big shot and maybe he threw a fit over that, kicking and screaming abuse and racism the whole ass hole way.

That’s my read of the situation. Makes too much sense.

Jared Leto's Joker I thought was great. No reason to bash it except to deceptively broadcast some kind of judgement superiority. I didn't see Suicide Squad, but Leto's Joker and the nuance was great in the last scenes. Thought the early replacement of Steppenwolf with Darkseid losing was an interesting choice. That alone could be an entire conversation. It was neat to see, but doesn't that also sort of weaken Darkseid's character a bit? Showing the big, behind the scenes bad guy in a devastating loss at the hands of ancient superheroes wielding swords right up front like that?

I mean, I thought it was pretty bad, but it’s not about “judgement superiority”. Not completely his fault, but there is so little to work with in the scene he is given. It reminded me of that Batman: Dying is Easy, or any other fan film where the characters give big expository dialogue explaining their relationship to one another.
After Heath and Joaquin, I expect to be blown away when I see the Joker on-screen. Or at least utterly captivated. I could have gotten up for snacks during that scene, but hey, maybe that’s just me.

It's a long movie so there's a lot to discuss. In general it was a good cut for the most part and I'm glad that it was put out there. It's a good move for the fans in a day and age where studios crap on the people giving them money.

Agreed. It feels like a treat to receive the movie in this way. It’s a very fun time, and best of all, Zack is the only one doing this style right now, so I hope he keeps at it, or at least reminds other filmmakers in the genre that there are many ways to treat these stories.