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Old 02-23-2022, 02:58 AM   #11
Sumac
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Originally Posted by MikeandRaph87 View Post
So Crimea is different because they wanted to switch from being under Ukraine to under Russia while Ukraine itself is being bullied into being put under Russia because of a pipeline profit?
Its not about pipeline profit, but about Putin's "dream" about "gathering back Soviet Union". Or at least, as much as possible he can manage, before going full WW3. Well, and looking like a macho leader for his dumb followers.

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https://bronx.news12.com/ukraine-cri...outside-russia
Financial sanctions against Russian banks and oligarchs were made earlier this afternoon. U.S. could do more though. I am surprised that Boris Johnson has not announced any sanctions yet.
It might be interesting, since unlike before it directly affects Putin's friends, a circle which for a long time was considered to be untouchable. On one hand, it might lead to some disagreement among Russian elites and possible change of course in the perspective, since they would not like to lose money, on the other - it might anger dwarf even further.

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He is 69. The relic of the KGB past is still pretty vigor and healthy for his age. I admit I thought he would have started to step back by now. Though look at both Trump and Biden who are a few years older still going full force. Fidel Castro did not step back until he was in his late 70s'.
Russian tsars rarely step away on their own. You either need a revolution, a coup d'état or them just kicking the bucket to achieve this. Otherwise, they will cling to the power until their last breath. And it doesn't matter whether they are called "tsars", "general secretaries" or "presidents".

The only ones who stepped away in the last few decades were Gorbachev (who, surprisingly for a Russian leader, didn't want power), Yeltsin (who was too sick to rule) and Medvedev (who was Putin's proxy and thus doesn't count).

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I'm surprised no one has ever managed to just take Putin down yet. How old is he even at this point, it would be easier if he'd just kick the bucket.
They will sent James Bond, Ethan Hunt and Batman to hunt him down. Any day. Any day.

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