Leo vs Raph - Outcome

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Originally Posted by jenna

Leo could never have won this battle for the pure a simple fact that Leonardo is level headed and can control his temper. He does not get lost in his own rage. He was making a conscious effort to fight with gusto but at the same time to not hurt his brother.

Raphael on the other hand, as we have seen in many different occassions, gets so lost in his anger that he loses control of himself. How many times has he nearly killed out of rage (ie Mikey in 2k3 / vol 1 - that was over sparring for crying out loud and his battle with Leo is 18 years of anger and repressed feelings of being the least loved child coming out - pretty big stuff). When Raphael is angry there is something so frightening about how he loses himself - it is almost like a dissasociative psychosis (I'm not saying that he is psychotic, just that his anger is really extreme).

completely agreed.

before revealing himself as raph, leo had no trouble knocking the nightwatcher around. but after knowing that he was fighting his own brother, i think he controlled his rage to a point where he tried to fight the battle that couldn't be stopped all the while avoiding to cause serious injury to his bro. raph on the other hand was channeling his wrath and disapproval of leo entirely into his strength - something he excels at. which is why at the end, after leo's swords snapped, raph came to a realization that his outburst of anger could have resulted in something tragic.

raph has the upperhand in brute force, but theoretically leo would be the better fighter, as in more rounded and having a deeper understanding an appreciation for ninjutsu/bushido as well as the ability to control his emotions.