Seein Red

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Originally Posted by samhain88

He didnt say ''If they always had them''. If that was the case, then no, they would originally wore diff colored bandanas. I wouldnt have an issue. He said ''adapt''.

Yeah, lol, sorry. That was meant to be two separate thoughts entirely.

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Not because of a lack of Technodromes or cowabunga or other nonsense like that... though of course the nostalgic OS folks love to use the lack of that as the reasons for said underperformance.

No. One glance at a commercial or trailer is enough to put people off. The trailer had freakin "your mom" jokes and a loud, out of place burp. You could just tell the movie was gonna suck. Not to mention, when I was hyped about it(prior to the second trailer), I had several conversations with people that went like this:

"Hey, theres a new Turtles movie coming out!"
"Awesome! I loved the ninja turtles!"
"Yeah, it's CGI-"
"What, no suits?"
"No, CGI."
"Ah, that sucks. The suits were awesome. Is Krang finally gonna be in it?"
"Umm... no. Neither is Shredder. Or Beebop. Or Rocksteady."
"What? **** that movie man, thats not a Turtles movie to me."

I loved Power Rangers growing up and if they did a reboot I'd be all for it. But if I found out it was CGI, no Lord Zedd, Goldar, Rita Repulsa... no thanks. And that's only 1/5

These multi-millions of 80s toon fans that you would have us believe still exist that are allegedly active ticket-buying fans -- despite every statistical law that Hollywood and financiers have quantified and proven and hold to as far as demographics and how much pie which age group is going to yield -- that will refuse to see a TMNT movie that is virtually identical tonally to the 80s toon... these aren't very good 80s toon fans at all, I think.

You really think TMNT was identical tonally to the OT? Really? And again, it really, really wasn't marketed to the 80s toon fans like you think it was. I'm not even sure what the target audience was come to think of it. There wasnt enough of any universe to please any of those crowds. So, I think they were gearing it for new kids all together, with extremely small nods to fans, like the trophy room.

and that's crazy, we're talking about guys and girls in their 30s and 40s now

Uh, I'm 24. I grew up on the old toon. There are plenty of others out there. Also, people in their 30s or 40s would love the chance to bring their kids with them to see it. So in alot of cases you'd be seeing an extra ticket being bought.

Which really only works against your case -- they are... now. After Batman Begins.

No, I definitely still wouldn't say that. Without bringing up Batman, go up to a random person in a movie theater and ask who Ra's al Ghul is and I'm sure the majority wouldn't have a clue.

I don't think it's unreasonable to put stock in a TMNT Begins type approach.

I agree. I'd love a realistic Turtles movie. Hell, I'd so much prefer a Begins approach over an 80s toon adaption. But it would need a big name director or, at the very least, a strong trailer to work. And this discussion is in the wrong thread