TMNT Enter Shredder DVD

[Retro-Specs]

This is driving me nuts... been calling stores all over my city, and it turns out this DVD won't be released in Canada until early next month! What the heck, just because of our different rating system or something?

[CinematicESP]

Do we know if there will be a season set for this show? I hate when they release multiple "volumes" from a single season that only contain a few episodes each. It seems to be a common thing for kids shows I've noticed.

[TheBlueTurtle1]

Originally Posted by CinematicESP

Do we know if there will be a season set for this show? I hate when they release multiple "volumes" from a single season that only contain a few episodes each. It seems to be a common thing for kids shows I've noticed.

We don;t know for sure, but that is what I have been waiting for, it's be hard to turn away from t he volumes but I hope we get a complete season 1 or I am going to have to get the volumes.

[CyberCubed]

Wait for a blu ray release.

[Toby Barrett]

Keep reaching for that rainbow Cubed.

[Leo656]

Cubed: Don't give people horrible advice.

No, seriously, the fact that Nick may release a scant few full-season sets for a few of their shows in NO way promises that TMNT will get the same treatment. In fact, as a property on its third cartoon interpretation, essentially a rehash of a rehash, I doubt TMNT is of the absolute highest priority as far as making a comprehensive DVD set appealing to grown-ups.

You've said it yourself multiple times: The current DVDs are aimed at kids, done on the cheap so that their parents will buy them. That's because they're marketing to their audience: kids. Nickelodeon has a long, long history of putting out half-assed, incomplete (and never to be completed, either) DVD sets of even their most popular shows. They only sell what they can justify. I doubt we'll get full-season TMNT sets from them, for the same reason we'll never, ever get the rest of "Clarissa Explains It All" on DVD: Who are they gonna market it to? To them (read: Nick executives), if you're a 20-something who still obsesses about "kids shows" to the point of absolutely needing a comprehensive DVD/blu-Ray set of every single episode, you're, shall we say, "not cool". They're not going to pander to a bunch of Gen Y crybabies on a message board and spend time and money on full season sets, in the hope enough grown ups are in enough of a state of arrested development to buy them, not when they can make much more money simply pandering to young kids and their parents with these bare-bones $10 discs.

It's not a phenomenon unique to Nick; Disney does it, too, a lot of super-hero cartoons get that treatment, they did it with the 4Kids TMNT, etc. It's the price we pay for being adults still obsessed with "kids stuff"; We, ourselves, are not and never again will be "The Audience"; we were the audience 25 years ago. You'd think that marketing people would be well aware and prepared to capitalize on the fact an entire culture exists of grown-ups who want to re-live their childhood, but sadly, that's often not the case. They make enough money from the actual audience, which is kids. If you or I or any other 20-something wants to drop a few bucks on their kid-friendly wares, sure, they'll welcome it and take our money, but by no means are we considered "essential" to market to. One could very well argue that said marketing people sorely underestimate how many of "us" there are, and I agree, but it changes absolutely nothing.

Consider: It took almost 10 years to get a full-series set of the Fred Wolf TMNT, and I'd argue a lot of that was simply them coming up with a way to get rid of unsold stock in a new case; it had nothing to do with giving the show a "proper" release. People nitpick and complain about how the TMNT cartoon DVDs have been done so far since the beginning, but seriously, you're spoiled if you expect better. What we got with the FW/4Kids DVDs is as good as we'll ever get for a TMNT release. Remember when they tried to actually "take care of Us" with complete season sets (well, half-seasons) of the 4Kids show, until the entire idea was scrapped because it made them no money with Seasons 1 and 2?

If you even want the hope of one day getting a comprehensive season/series set (which is NOT impossible, just very unlikely given Nick's history), the only way to make it happen is to buy these stand-alone DVDs and hope for the best. I long ago figured out that it's like a game with these companies: They don't release anything in completion unless it's super-popular; if enough people buy the stand-alone sets, the company usually does season/series sets later on, hoping that 1. The most loyal fans will have no problem double-dipping for a "better" version of what they already have, and 2. Anyone who missed out the first time can now jump in. It's the absolute surest way to maximize the amount of money earned, because it counts on a large number of the most hardcore fans paying twice for the exact same product, and it works almost every single time. It works because by their rules, if you skip the stand-alone sets, and the company doesn't make enough money, then forget EVER seeing those full sets, because the property is dubbed a "money-loser". It's a rigged game, but hey, it's about making money, not giving fanboys what they want. Let's just be realistic about that.

The best advice I could give anyone is to get every TMNT DVD set Nick puts out and hope that eventually entices them to release full seasons later on. F*ck it, they're cheap enough. Skipping these sets as they come out only promises they'll NEVER do a full season set. Seems contrary to common sense, but it has nothing to do with that, it's about money. Sometimes you gotta play the game their way to ever get what you want.

[Gyt Kaliba]

Very well put, Leo656, bravo. And I can vouch for the price tags making it easy enough to pick them up too, especially given that we're only getting a new DVD every 3 or 4 months. Hell, I only make minimum wage, and I can afford a $10 DVD every couple of months with ease. And there are far worse singles too, these at least have 6 to 7 episodes a disc - that's stellar compared to some shows I like that used to only be available in 3 episodes a disc format.

And anyway, this seems to be the last single one would have to deal with anyway. It seems like they're probably going to switch to two-disc 'half season sets' with the 3rd volume anyway.

[CyberCubed]

Nick just released Korra Season 1 on blu ray. That's the popular Avatar show spinoff.

If they released a blu ray for their own series they would do it for TMNT as they own it. Don't forget the episodes are already in HD on iTunes.

[Bry]

Originally Posted by Retro-Specs

This is driving me nuts... been calling stores all over my city, and it turns out this DVD won't be released in Canada until early next month! What the heck, just because of our different rating system or something?

I couldn't find it anywhere in my city, and this explains why. That's pretty odd - it's not like there's usually a delay on most DVD/Blu-ray releases. I don't see how the rating system could cause a month's delay, either. Hmmph.

Come to think of it, I had some trouble finding the first volume in town when it was supposed to be released... Was there a similar delay for that one, or did I just have bad luck? (Ultimately it was ordered online from the States.)

[Zulithe]

Amusing that people are still going on about the potential for a BRD release. I've resigned myself to accepting my HD iTunes copies may be the best I ever get. Honestly it's not even a big deal since I can play my iTunes copies in more ways and in more places than I could a BRD, so it kinda works to my advantage.

I'd still buy a BRD season set though... so if Nick wants more money from me, they know how to get it. I won't touch DVDs.

[Ramboraph4life aka Matt]

The truth is, the Turtles have always had a crappy history with DVD's. And it's not just one company, but it seems ALL Companies seem to screw up when it comes to the Ninja Turtles.

Warner Bros/New Line Cinema: The first live action film having no special edition in site (despite a '20th anniversary' that passed, a '25th anniversary of the characters themselves' that passed, a 'new movie/the CGI one' which passed)...All Solid Occasions to do a Special Edition. And nothing.

LionsGate: The 80's cartoon series, I think it's been said just how much LionsGate screwed that up. "missing episodes" which then magically appear, Out of Order, putting 12 episodes on one disc thus poorer picture quality, and much upon much more.

4Kids: The 2003 Cartoon. It's the point where I have countless friends who would Love to own that show on DVD, but they can't unless they need to put up a fortune in money. A series that BADLY needs a re-release into Box Sets. Even the last season was never released on DVD (except somewhere Overseas I believe, I think Australia). And no word from anyone, including Nick, on Anything being done with that series. At least DVD wise.

The Turtles Forever DVD being full screen, the 'Cut' version, poor DVD cover, No Extras. Just a really crappy job. Best bet for that one is to get one overseas which is Widescreen, has the Missing Minutes put back in, and a much better cover.

And now this show. I would not hold your breath for a "Complete Box Set/Season 1" anytime soon. Or Nick getting their head out of their Ass and learning from past mistakes from Other Companies.


It's simple. The More Things Change, The More They Stay The Same.

[Hero]

ASDA in the UK are stocking the DVD (w/ Donnie bandana) already. The set is still due for a July 22nd release.

[Gyt Kaliba]

Oh yeah, quick question - did anyone's copy of this come with a poster? I got mine from a local Wal-mart and there's nothing about a poster, but then when I was out of town to see Pacific Rim the other day, the Wal-mart there had this big kiosk for Korra and TMNT, and the DVD's there had a sticker talking about some kind of poster. So um...what gives? :/