TMNT Enter Shredder DVD - Page 5

marcelangelo · 07-10-2013, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Storm Eagle

Most likely. It looks like Donatello19 misunderstood. I went to the thread he talked about and there's a link there that leads to someone's review of "Enter Shredder" at Amazon, where it states that "I, Monster" isn't on that set. So it'll most likely be on the third volume.

By the way, I saw someone somewhere else say that some of the six episodes on the first volume are in the same order they premiered, although they should be in another order chronologically. Might anyone know anything about that? Is the guy right or wrong?

Im afraid there is a misunderstanding:
what there was said about vol 1(I have it at home) is this:
the dvd box says the vol 1 dvd features the first 5 episodes(instead of it being SIX episodes actually, combining the double parter ep 'rise of the turtles')

this was brought up to clarify that these three dvd sets WONT skip or leave out ANY episode, because we know the last two episodes will very likely be presented on the dvd as ONE big episode.
the chronology was referring to the argument that these dvd sets feature episodes in the rank they were produced, no necessarily in the way they were aired.

Gyt Kaliba · 07-10-2013, 04:33 PM

Well, I picked this up today, so now I just have to wait for that third set to come out. I'm on a Turtles toon buying spree lately, hopefully soon enough I'll be able to move on to the comics at last.

Jade · 07-10-2013, 06:32 PM

Do all of the episodes on this set have the opening theme? I noticed on the '' Rise of the Turtles'' set that some episodes had the theme cut.

*miru* · 07-10-2013, 08:15 PM

Why did it mention "non-stop fights against... A mutant alligator," isn't Leatherhead a good guy? Couldn't they have said "a female ninja" or "depraved scientists"?

Gyt Kaliba · 07-10-2013, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by miru

Why did it mention "non-stop fights against... A mutant alligator," isn't Leatherhead a good guy? Couldn't they have said "a female ninja" or "depraved scientists"?

They could have, yes - but I'd venture a guess that a mutant alligator sounds more impressive and interesting to kids, so they went with that. That and they already had the Foot side of the issue covered with 'the evil Shredder', and in a way the evil scientist side with 'mechanical Mousers'.

LH · 07-10-2013, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by miru

Why did it mention "non-stop fights against... A mutant alligator," isn't Leatherhead a good guy? Couldn't they have said "a female ninja" or "depraved scientists"?

A lot of the marketing for Leatherhead played him up to be a bad guy, so that the news of him being a hero would not be spoiled before you see the episode. They did this with his concept art previews as well.

*CyberCubed* · 07-10-2013, 09:59 PM

Leatherhead has always doubled as a villain at points. The Turtles fight him at least once in every incarnation.

LH · 07-10-2013, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Leatherhead has always doubled as a villain at points. The Turtles fight him at least once in every incarnation.

Yup... One of his character trademarks is that of an initial antagonist through misunderstanding(usually due to him perceiving the turtles as a threat or in the case of Jess Harley, misguidance by Shredder). It's always interesting to me seeing all of the different takes on this interaction in the franchise.

*Bauer536* · 07-11-2013, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Jade

Do all of the episodes on this set have the opening theme? I noticed on the '' Rise of the Turtles'' set that some episodes had the theme cut.

Yes, that was because of having room to put the episodes on the disc . . . and to waste room by having scenes repeating after watching their special feature of "Mutation of a Scene."

Retro-Specs · 07-12-2013, 09:00 AM

This is driving me nuts... been calling stores all over my city, and it turns out this DVD won't be released in Canada until early next month! What the heck, just because of our different rating system or something?

CinematicESP · 07-12-2013, 12:20 PM

Do we know if there will be a season set for this show? I hate when they release multiple "volumes" from a single season that only contain a few episodes each. It seems to be a common thing for kids shows I've noticed.

*TheBlueTurtle1* · 07-12-2013, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CinematicESP

Do we know if there will be a season set for this show? I hate when they release multiple "volumes" from a single season that only contain a few episodes each. It seems to be a common thing for kids shows I've noticed.

We don;t know for sure, but that is what I have been waiting for, it's be hard to turn away from t he volumes but I hope we get a complete season 1 or I am going to have to get the volumes.

*CyberCubed* · 07-12-2013, 12:43 PM

Wait for a blu ray release.

Toby Barrett · 07-12-2013, 01:06 PM

Keep reaching for that rainbow Cubed.

~~Leo656~~ · 07-12-2013, 01:37 PM

Cubed: Don't give people horrible advice.

No, seriously, the fact that Nick may release a scant few full-season sets for a few of their shows in NO way promises that TMNT will get the same treatment. In fact, as a property on its third cartoon interpretation, essentially a rehash of a rehash, I doubt TMNT is of the absolute highest priority as far as making a comprehensive DVD set appealing to grown-ups.

You've said it yourself multiple times: The current DVDs are aimed at kids, done on the cheap so that their parents will buy them. That's because they're marketing to their audience: kids. Nickelodeon has a long, long history of putting out half-assed, incomplete (and never to be completed, either) DVD sets of even their most popular shows. They only sell what they can justify. I doubt we'll get full-season TMNT sets from them, for the same reason we'll never, ever get the rest of "Clarissa Explains It All" on DVD: Who are they gonna market it to? To them (read: Nick executives), if you're a 20-something who still obsesses about "kids shows" to the point of absolutely needing a comprehensive DVD/blu-Ray set of every single episode, you're, shall we say, "not cool". They're not going to pander to a bunch of Gen Y crybabies on a message board and spend time and money on full season sets, in the hope enough grown ups are in enough of a state of arrested development to buy them, not when they can make much more money simply pandering to young kids and their parents with these bare-bones $10 discs.

It's not a phenomenon unique to Nick; Disney does it, too, a lot of super-hero cartoons get that treatment, they did it with the 4Kids TMNT, etc. It's the price we pay for being adults still obsessed with "kids stuff"; We, ourselves, are not and never again will be "The Audience"; we were the audience 25 years ago. You'd think that marketing people would be well aware and prepared to capitalize on the fact an entire culture exists of grown-ups who want to re-live their childhood, but sadly, that's often not the case. They make enough money from the actual audience, which is kids. If you or I or any other 20-something wants to drop a few bucks on their kid-friendly wares, sure, they'll welcome it and take our money, but by no means are we considered "essential" to market to. One could very well argue that said marketing people sorely underestimate how many of "us" there are, and I agree, but it changes absolutely nothing.

Consider: It took almost 10 years to get a full-series set of the Fred Wolf TMNT, and I'd argue a lot of that was simply them coming up with a way to get rid of unsold stock in a new case; it had nothing to do with giving the show a "proper" release. People nitpick and complain about how the TMNT cartoon DVDs have been done so far since the beginning, but seriously, you're spoiled if you expect better. What we got with the FW/4Kids DVDs is as good as we'll ever get for a TMNT release. Remember when they tried to actually "take care of Us" with complete season sets (well, half-seasons) of the 4Kids show, until the entire idea was scrapped because it made them no money with Seasons 1 and 2?

If you even want the hope of one day getting a comprehensive season/series set (which is NOT impossible, just very unlikely given Nick's history), the only way to make it happen is to buy these stand-alone DVDs and hope for the best. I long ago figured out that it's like a game with these companies: They don't release anything in completion unless it's super-popular; if enough people buy the stand-alone sets, the company usually does season/series sets later on, hoping that 1. The most loyal fans will have no problem double-dipping for a "better" version of what they already have, and 2. Anyone who missed out the first time can now jump in. It's the absolute surest way to maximize the amount of money earned, because it counts on a large number of the most hardcore fans paying twice for the exact same product, and it works almost every single time. It works because by their rules, if you skip the stand-alone sets, and the company doesn't make enough money, then forget EVER seeing those full sets, because the property is dubbed a "money-loser". It's a rigged game, but hey, it's about making money, not giving fanboys what they want. Let's just be realistic about that.

The best advice I could give anyone is to get every TMNT DVD set Nick puts out and hope that eventually entices them to release full seasons later on. F*ck it, they're cheap enough. Skipping these sets as they come out only promises they'll NEVER do a full season set. Seems contrary to common sense, but it has nothing to do with that, it's about money. Sometimes you gotta play the game their way to ever get what you want.

Gyt Kaliba · 07-12-2013, 02:49 PM

Very well put, Leo656, bravo. And I can vouch for the price tags making it easy enough to pick them up too, especially given that we're only getting a new DVD every 3 or 4 months. Hell, I only make minimum wage, and I can afford a $10 DVD every couple of months with ease. And there are far worse singles too, these at least have 6 to 7 episodes a disc - that's stellar compared to some shows I like that used to only be available in 3 episodes a disc format.

And anyway, this seems to be the last single one would have to deal with anyway. It seems like they're probably going to switch to two-disc 'half season sets' with the 3rd volume anyway.

*CyberCubed* · 07-12-2013, 03:12 PM

Nick just released Korra Season 1 on blu ray. That's the popular Avatar show spinoff.

If they released a blu ray for their own series they would do it for TMNT as they own it. Don't forget the episodes are already in HD on iTunes.

LivingMutagen · 07-12-2013, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Nick just released Korra Season 1 on blu ray. That's the popular Avatar show spinoff.

If they released a blu ray for their own series they would do it for TMNT as they own it. Don't forget the episodes are already in HD on iTunes.

By spinoff, you mean sequel. And Korra has been out in the US for about a year, so don't get your hopes up.

FlawedCoil82 · 07-12-2013, 03:30 PM

Leo656 nailed it! I couldn't have said it better myself.

But I am still going to hold out for the light up, gold encrusted, ultra super ultimate Violet Beam HD+ Infinity boxset where every disc comes inside a real snapping turtle shell and comes with an April blow up doll and Kevin Eastman's home address/phone number and where one lucky winner can even have the chance to have the REAL TMNTs and Splinter come visit them at their homes. Anything less than that is pure crap.

*JTH* · 07-12-2013, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Nick just released Korra Season 1 on blu ray. That's the popular Avatar show spinoff.

If they released a blu ray for their own series they would do it for TMNT as they own it. Don't forget the episodes are already in HD on iTunes.

On Blu-Ray and DVD, releases at the same time? Not a DVD release followed up by a Blu-Ray release which is what a TMNT release would be at the very least.

That's what we're trying to tell you guys, if they planned on doing a Blu-Ray release of the show, they would have put it out with the DVD releases simultaneously, and they would have done Season releases from the start. Meaning they have at this point and time, no plans to put Ninja Turtles on Blu-Ray, and if they do, won't be for a couple years down the line.

07-10-2013, 04:33 PM	#82
Gyt Kaliba Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Arkansas Posts: 770	Well, I picked this up today, so now I just have to wait for that third set to come out. I'm on a Turtles toon buying spree lately, hopefully soon enough I'll be able to move on to the comics at last. __________________ My FanFiction

07-10-2013, 08:15 PM	#84
miru Mad Scientist Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,874	Why did it mention "non-stop fights against... A mutant alligator," isn't Leatherhead a good guy? Couldn't they have said "a female ninja" or "depraved scientists"? __________________ Proud Digimon nut.

07-12-2013, 02:49 PM	#96
Gyt Kaliba Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Arkansas Posts: 770	Very well put, Leo656, bravo. And I can vouch for the price tags making it easy enough to pick them up too, especially given that we're only getting a new DVD every 3 or 4 months. Hell, I only make minimum wage, and I can afford a $10 DVD every couple of months with ease. And there are far worse singles too, these at least have 6 to 7 episodes a disc - that's stellar compared to some shows I like that used to only be available in 3 episodes a disc format. And anyway, this seems to be the last single one would have to deal with anyway. It seems like they're probably going to switch to two-disc 'half season sets' with the 3rd volume anyway. __________________ My FanFiction

07-10-2013, 06:32 PM	#83
Jade Foot Soldier Join Date: Nov 2011 Posts: 128	Do all of the episodes on this set have the opening theme? I noticed on the '' Rise of the Turtles'' set that some episodes had the theme cut.

07-10-2013, 09:59 PM	#87
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,878	Leatherhead has always doubled as a villain at points. The Turtles fight him at least once in every incarnation.

07-12-2013, 09:00 AM	#90
Retro-Specs Thug Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 81	This is driving me nuts... been calling stores all over my city, and it turns out this DVD won't be released in Canada until early next month! What the heck, just because of our different rating system or something?

07-12-2013, 12:20 PM	#91
CinematicESP Thug Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 50	Do we know if there will be a season set for this show? I hate when they release multiple "volumes" from a single season that only contain a few episodes each. It seems to be a common thing for kids shows I've noticed.

07-12-2013, 12:43 PM	#93
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,878	Wait for a blu ray release.

07-12-2013, 01:06 PM	#94
Toby Barrett Stone Warrior Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 946	Keep reaching for that rainbow Cubed.

07-12-2013, 01:37 PM	#95
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Cubed: Don't give people horrible advice. No, seriously, the fact that Nick may release a scant few full-season sets for a few of their shows in NO way promises that TMNT will get the same treatment. In fact, as a property on its third cartoon interpretation, essentially a rehash of a rehash, I doubt TMNT is of the absolute highest priority as far as making a comprehensive DVD set appealing to grown-ups. You've said it yourself multiple times: The current DVDs are aimed at kids, done on the cheap so that their parents will buy them. That's because they're marketing to their audience: kids. Nickelodeon has a long, long history of putting out half-assed, incomplete (and never to be completed, either) DVD sets of even their most popular shows. They only sell what they can justify. I doubt we'll get full-season TMNT sets from them, for the same reason we'll never, ever get the rest of "Clarissa Explains It All" on DVD: Who are they gonna market it to? To them (read: Nick executives), if you're a 20-something who still obsesses about "kids shows" to the point of absolutely needing a comprehensive DVD/blu-Ray set of every single episode, you're, shall we say, "not cool". They're not going to pander to a bunch of Gen Y crybabies on a message board and spend time and money on full season sets, in the hope enough grown ups are in enough of a state of arrested development to buy them, not when they can make much more money simply pandering to young kids and their parents with these bare-bones $10 discs. It's not a phenomenon unique to Nick; Disney does it, too, a lot of super-hero cartoons get that treatment, they did it with the 4Kids TMNT, etc. It's the price we pay for being adults still obsessed with "kids stuff"; We, ourselves, are not and never again will be "The Audience"; we were the audience 25 years ago. You'd think that marketing people would be well aware and prepared to capitalize on the fact an entire culture exists of grown-ups who want to re-live their childhood, but sadly, that's often not the case. They make enough money from the actual audience, which is kids. If you or I or any other 20-something wants to drop a few bucks on their kid-friendly wares, sure, they'll welcome it and take our money, but by no means are we considered "essential" to market to. One could very well argue that said marketing people sorely underestimate how many of "us" there are, and I agree, but it changes absolutely nothing. Consider: It took almost 10 years to get a full-series set of the Fred Wolf TMNT, and I'd argue a lot of that was simply them coming up with a way to get rid of unsold stock in a new case; it had nothing to do with giving the show a "proper" release. People nitpick and complain about how the TMNT cartoon DVDs have been done so far since the beginning, but seriously, you're spoiled if you expect better. What we got with the FW/4Kids DVDs is as good as we'll ever get for a TMNT release. Remember when they tried to actually "take care of Us" with complete season sets (well, half-seasons) of the 4Kids show, until the entire idea was scrapped because it made them no money with Seasons 1 and 2? If you even want the hope of one day getting a comprehensive season/series set (which is NOT impossible, just very unlikely given Nick's history), the only way to make it happen is to buy these stand-alone DVDs and hope for the best. I long ago figured out that it's like a game with these companies: They don't release anything in completion unless it's super-popular; if enough people buy the stand-alone sets, the company usually does season/series sets later on, hoping that 1. The most loyal fans will have no problem double-dipping for a "better" version of what they already have, and 2. Anyone who missed out the first time can now jump in. It's the absolute surest way to maximize the amount of money earned, because it counts on a large number of the most hardcore fans paying twice for the exact same product, and it works almost every single time. It works because by their rules, if you skip the stand-alone sets, and the company doesn't make enough money, then forget EVER seeing those full sets, because the property is dubbed a "money-loser". It's a rigged game, but hey, it's about making money, not giving fanboys what they want. Let's just be realistic about that. The best advice I could give anyone is to get every TMNT DVD set Nick puts out and hope that eventually entices them to release full seasons later on. F*ck it, they're cheap enough. Skipping these sets as they come out only promises they'll NEVER do a full season set. Seems contrary to common sense, but it has nothing to do with that, it's about money. Sometimes you gotta play the game their way to ever get what you want.

07-12-2013, 03:12 PM	#97
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,878	Nick just released Korra Season 1 on blu ray. That's the popular Avatar show spinoff. If they released a blu ray for their own series they would do it for TMNT as they own it. Don't forget the episodes are already in HD on iTunes.

07-12-2013, 03:30 PM	#99
FlawedCoil82 Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2007 Posts: 523	Leo656 nailed it! I couldn't have said it better myself. But I am still going to hold out for the light up, gold encrusted, ultra super ultimate Violet Beam HD+ Infinity boxset where every disc comes inside a real snapping turtle shell and comes with an April blow up doll and Kevin Eastman's home address/phone number and where one lucky winner can even have the chance to have the REAL TMNTs and Splinter come visit them at their homes. Anything less than that is pure crap.