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Old 06-14-2019, 09:34 AM   #11
TMNT-Leonardo
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An example: “We are, in every way, trying to go back to the original technique and hand the movie back to the fans,” which almost sounds like Reitman is saying the 2016 female-fronted reboot from Paul Feig wasn’t for “fans”, and doesn’t have it’s own fans. Sure, this is nitpicking, but after everything the cast went through just for being females stepping into the proton packs, sort of a big step back.

- "Answer The Call" was NOT "for fans".
- Any fans it has aren't fans of Ghostbusters, but rather, fans of "drinking salty fanboy tears". AKA, "Awful people, worse than the so-called awful people they 'stand against'."
- The movie did NOT get slammed for being all-women. Having a "Gimmick" like "The All-Female Ghostbusters", or, "The All-Kids Ghostbusters" is a lousy and lazy idea on its face, and people attacked a bad idea for being a bad idea.
- People predicted that at least half the movie would be Man-Hating horse sh*t, and lo and behold, IT WAS.
- Everyone in it gave a career-worst performance. I can say that with confidence, despite not seeing most of these people in anything else, because if THIS is standard to how each of them perform, then NONE of them deserve a job in Hollywood. So I assume whatever else they've done was better than THAT.
- The final product was slammed for being Not Funny, poorly-shot and staged, and far too much terrible improv. NOT because they cast four women.
Ok wow....

First off, saying anyone who is a fan of the 2016 film isn't a Ghostbusters fans is just childish. It's really whinny fan entitlement attitude. That's troll level thinking. You're not a true fan if you like this film? Well, you're not a true fan if you like anything other than the Mirage TMNT comic. That logic doesn't work, and only fuels the thinking that people who hate the reboot are whiny fan boys or sexist adults. I know people hate the reboot for many reasons and that's ok, but saying stuff like that doesn't help. You hate it? Fine, but don't put down people who do like it.

Also, this movie was being slammed left and right before anything was even filmed. Before any cast was announced or trailer shown. At the very beginning their was a hate campaign against it. Using the argument that "they hated it because it was a bad movie" really doesn't work here, because they hated it before they even saw anything. If anything, they hated because it was remake.

Even with that in mind, the outcome isn't any better. You're still left with fans and trolls harassing the director and actors for making a film. I've seen tons of Facebook posts on fan groups about the 2016 film, and it's almost always left with angry emotions. The post can be about wishing a cast member a happy birthday, and it'll still be filled with hate comments. Then you have fans slamming the original actors for "selling out". Overreaction is putting it lightly.

Regarding the sexist angle, while I agree it wasn't a major part, it was indeed their even if was REALLY minor. I have seen people making comments how women can't be Ghostbusters because reason whatever, even though we have had one in the past with Kylie, two if you include Janine who did a few times in the Real. I don't think it was significant enough to be brought up, it's just Sony decided to go with that angle.
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