Ranking the Superman films

cammy85 · 07-30-2021, 09:43 AM

It's been a long time since I've seen any of them. I thought two was better than one at least, because the establishment had been done and the Zod gang were cool. Plus, I have a soft spot in 3 for Richard Pryor.

I'm only posting this as an example, but has anyone seen any of these at all? I think they're well done!!

*The Deadman* · 07-30-2021, 09:50 AM

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~~Leo656~~ · 07-30-2021, 10:35 AM

If you remove those three specific actors - Terence Stamp and Co. - from Superman II, that entire movie falls completely apart. They hold it together. Even if you cast someone else, the movie doesn't work. It is entirely dependent on them and them specifically.

BUT, show me any movie with Terence Stamp where he's not the best thing about it. "Young Guns", maybe, and he had to contend with Prime Estevez, which is a battle absolutely nobody could've won.

*IMJ* · 07-30-2021, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by cammy85

It's been a long time since I've seen any of them. I thought two was better than one at least, because the establishment had been done and the Zod gang were cool. Plus, I have a soft spot in 3 for Richard Pryor.

I'm only posting this as an example, but has anyone seen any of these at all? I think they're well done!!

Broken link!

If we could fit the Fleischer Superman cartoons on this list, they'd be way up there....

~~Leo656~~ · 07-30-2021, 11:40 AM

Y'know what's funny about the Fleischer cartoons, is that there's a ton of people who take points off of the Snyder movies because "Superman barely talks", they literally sit there counting the words he speaks like that's a big huge thing... and in those cartoons, some of the earliest cross-medium representation of the character and in fact the first time millions of people who didn't read comics were exposed to him... the guy barely says two words AS Superman. Clark speaks fairly often, "Superman" says almost nothing.

It's just something that jumped out at me over time. In many Year One iterations of Superman - and the Snyder movies ARE Year One Superman - he doesn't actually talk much when he's "working". The fact that he comes off as aloof and mysterious during that period is always a plot point. He's not supposed to go around giving big dramatic Rah-Rah speeches until he's been around a couple of years.

I don't know. Whenever anyone says anything about wishing Superman talked more in the movies, I'm like "Look at the Fleischer cartoons, they're incredible and the guy barely says two words." ((shrug))

cammy85 · 07-31-2021, 10:04 AM

Shoot!! That's what I get for using forum code. Thanks, everyone!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDPl1eCIFvo

2K3 · 08-01-2021, 08:53 AM

1) Superman II: The Donner Cut
2) The Man of Steel
3) Superman: Extended Edition
4) Superman Returns
5) Superman III
6) Superman IV: The Quest For Peace

07-30-2021, 09:43 AM	#1
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07-30-2021, 10:35 AM	#3
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	If you remove those three specific actors - Terence Stamp and Co. - from Superman II, that entire movie falls completely apart. They hold it together. Even if you cast someone else, the movie doesn't work. It is entirely dependent on them and them specifically. BUT, show me any movie with Terence Stamp where he's not the best thing about it. "Young Guns", maybe, and he had to contend with Prime Estevez, which is a battle absolutely nobody could've won.

07-30-2021, 11:40 AM	#5
~~Leo656~~ Banned Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: nWo Country Posts: 27,703	Y'know what's funny about the Fleischer cartoons, is that there's a ton of people who take points off of the Snyder movies because "Superman barely talks", they literally sit there counting the words he speaks like that's a big huge thing... and in those cartoons, some of the earliest cross-medium representation of the character and in fact the first time millions of people who didn't read comics were exposed to him... the guy barely says two words AS Superman. Clark speaks fairly often, "Superman" says almost nothing. It's just something that jumped out at me over time. In many Year One iterations of Superman - and the Snyder movies ARE Year One Superman - he doesn't actually talk much when he's "working". The fact that he comes off as aloof and mysterious during that period is always a plot point. He's not supposed to go around giving big dramatic Rah-Rah speeches until he's been around a couple of years. I don't know. Whenever anyone says anything about wishing Superman talked more in the movies, I'm like "Look at the Fleischer cartoons, they're incredible and the guy barely says two words." ((shrug))

07-31-2021, 10:04 AM	#6
cammy85 Stone Warrior Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Minnedosa, MB Canada Posts: 772	Shoot!! That's what I get for using forum code. Thanks, everyone!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CDPl1eCIFvo

08-01-2021, 08:53 AM	#7
2K3 Foot Soldier Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Cardiff Posts: 192	1) Superman II: The Donner Cut 2) The Man of Steel 3) Superman: Extended Edition 4) Superman Returns 5) Superman III 6) Superman IV: The Quest For Peace