The Sony Thread

*Mr. Snackpants* · 01-02-2009, 02:26 PM

Motherf*****. I am completely out of the loop. I had no idea the new generations of PS3s don't support PS2 games. Pity because I just bought MGS 2 and 3 and was about to play them. Now they'll just sit there.

*Mecha Cow* · 01-02-2009, 04:40 PM

That sucks dude, though you really should have done some research. Maybe you can borrow a PS2 from someone?

*Mr. Snackpants* · 01-02-2009, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecha Cow

That sucks dude, though you really should have done some research. Maybe you can borrow a PS2 from someone?

Yeah, I probably can.

I just remember them being backwards compatible when it launched and it just stuck in my head. I never would've figured they would take that out.

*Kendamu* · 01-02-2009, 07:34 PM

I remember reading something about Sony wanting to sell PS2 games Virtual Console style for PS3 owners in the future.

*Brodie* · 01-02-2009, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Snackpants

Yeah, I probably can.

I just remember them being backwards compatible when it launched and it just stuck in my head. I never would've figured they would take that out.

I was pretty sure only certain types of PS3s were BC with PS2 games. Like, the 80 gig wasn't, and the larger HD ones were...?

*Mr. Snackpants* · 01-02-2009, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodie

I was pretty sure only certain types of PS3s were BC with PS2 games. Like, the 80 gig wasn't, and the larger HD ones were...?

After I popped in MGS 2 and found out it wouldn't play I googled it and it was something like only 1st gen 40 GB systems were partially BC.

I was excited to buy all the PS2 games I missed out on while I was playing Madden and Tony Hawk. Stuff like the MGS, Resident Evil, Kingdom Hearts, God of War, Okami, ect. I was walking through GameStop and they were like $15 max.

Oh well. I'll probably buy one off someone in the dorms when I get back from break. I'm not paying $50+. I bet I could get one for $30 or so.

*Mecha Cow* · 01-03-2009, 09:01 AM

(I guess this goes in here)

Metal Gear Solid 'Group therapy' (MGS4 spoilers)

This is hilarious.

~~AquaParade~~ · 01-03-2009, 12:32 PM

Does anyone know where to find a playstation 2 Slim Power chord replacement. I bought one that was compatible with a ps2....just not ps2 slim. Having a really hard time locating one. Anyone got any ideas?

*Ninjinister* · 01-03-2009, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecha Cow

(I guess this goes in here)

Metal Gear Solid 'Group therapy' (MGS4 spoilers)

This is hilarious.

I saw this late last night. Laughed my ass off.

Peanut · 01-03-2009, 02:17 PM

There are three levels of PS3 BC support, and they're spread out over several different drive sizes. There's full support, which is in first generation PS3's that contain the entire emotion engine chip from the PS2; then there's software emulation contained in the second generation of PS3's, which only works on select games; then there's no BC at all in every new third generation PS3.

It's completely retarded, and pretty funny considering they slammed Microsoft on the BC point over and over again.

Ra · 01-02-2009, 04:45 PM

Wait, they don't?

God ****in' damnit... at least I know for sure now...

*JameO* · 02-04-2009, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Snackpants

Motherf*****. I am completely out of the loop. I had no idea the new generations of PS3s don't support PS2 games. Pity because I just bought MGS 2 and 3 and was about to play them. Now they'll just sit there.

Same here man I feel your pain, I had got a PS3, and then checking Sony's backwards compatability site, it doesn't mention that the 80gb models were different, it just states 80gb and I checked the games I had purchase for my girlfriend to play, which she had been wanting so bad to play over christmas, so I bought them (Kingdom Hearts 1 and 2) and then I get to christmas, throw it in, and didn't work. Then I read online that you would have to get the bundle packs to get an 80gb with BC, but even then its software emulation, so not as reliable. And like Peanut said, I didnt bother checking the difference because of them boasting their capability, but due to struggling sales, to make it cheaper, why not remove the hardware inside, save on cost.

So last week I went to EB and got a used slim ps2 for 100 bucks, not too bad but a purchase I wish I didnt have to do. But I will give Sony credit, I hadn't seen a slim ps2 before....dang its small! And I like the pop up cd player boombox style drive, very nice.

So I feel your pain on this one, its annoying, but I guess you got to do what you got to do, I just think its a stupid move on Sony's part to be OH WE ARE SO GOOD, FULL BC, and then remove it to save money.

On another note, has anyone played Killzone 2, me being a FPS freak, I was wondering what people think of it. From videos I have seen it looks really good.

**ThirdMarioBro** · 02-04-2009, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by JameO

I just think its a stupid move on Sony's part to be OH WE ARE SO GOOD, FULL BC, and then remove it to save money.

Save money? How about make money. Sony could emulate the PS2 in software easily. They pulled out PS1 emulation too, and that was already perfect, even on the PSP. Why? The smelled the money there was in marking up crappy, two-generation old games and selling them to nostalgic suckers. Thanks Nintendo.

*raphael_is_cool* · 02-04-2009, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ThirdMarioBro

Save money? How about make money. Sony could emulate the PS2 in software easily. They pulled out PS1 emulation too, and that was already perfect, even on the PSP. Why? The smelled the money there was in marking up crappy, two-generation old games and selling them to nostalgic suckers. Thanks Nintendo.

I seem to remember reading something about it having more to do with the technical side of BC on the PS3. Having to employ people to try and fix all these problems that would occur.

Not defending Sony. Just offering another perspective.

Peanut · 02-04-2009, 06:02 PM

It was widely proclaimed that hardware BC was cut for cost purposes, and emulation wasn't an interest to them to fix. Now that it's gone completely, Sony can attempt to screw late adopters even more by charging to download PS2 and PS1 games over PSN. Not that they've even announced plans to allow PS2 games to be DL'd over their online service, but it's probably just a matter of time.

TMB is just trying to be an overacting alarmist, as usual.

**ThirdMarioBro** · 02-04-2009, 06:07 PM

If the software emulation supposedly doesn't work for technical purposes, then why in the hell do the downloadable PS1 (and eventually PS2) games work? Software emulation. It's a screw job.

Peanut · 02-04-2009, 06:11 PM

Because they're making money off of downloadable games? They're a business, aren't they? Why hire a group of people to perfect emulation of something you'll never make money on? I don't think anyone will argue that their software emulation was cut out to make room for downloadable PS2 games, but acting like it was the reason BC was cut entirely just isn't right.

*Dr. Doom* · 02-04-2009, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by JameO

So last week I went to EB and got a used slim ps2 for 100 bucks

Jesus, they're only $60 here.

01-02-2009, 04:40 PM	#2
Mecha Cow Gorgeous and modest too Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,699	That sucks dude, though you really should have done some research. Maybe you can borrow a PS2 from someone? __________________

01-03-2009, 09:01 AM	#7
Mecha Cow Gorgeous and modest too Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 3,699	(I guess this goes in here) Metal Gear Solid 'Group therapy' (MGS4 spoilers) This is hilarious. __________________

01-03-2009, 12:32 PM	#8
~~AquaParade~~ Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 8,450	******** Does anyone know where to find a playstation 2 Slim Power chord replacement. I bought one that was compatible with a ps2....just not ps2 slim. Having a really hard time locating one. Anyone got any ideas?

01-02-2009, 04:45 PM	#11
Ra It's my desire? Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: In your pants. Posts: 4,441	Wait, they don't? God ***in' damnit... at least I know for sure now... __________________ "So. The whole lot of you against little old me? How retarded."*

02-04-2009, 06:07 PM	#16
ThirdMarioBro Tea Time! Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 8,905	If the software emulation supposedly doesn't work for technical purposes, then why in the hell do the downloadable PS1 (and eventually PS2) games work? Software emulation. It's a screw job. __________________

01-02-2009, 02:26 PM	#1
Mr. Snackpants Keep cool my babies! Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Mount Pleasant Posts: 2,239	Motherf*****. I am completely out of the loop. I had no idea the new generations of PS3s don't support PS2 games. Pity because I just bought MGS 2 and 3 and was about to play them. Now they'll just sit there.

01-02-2009, 07:34 PM	#4
Kendamu Sewerhead Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 2,890	I remember reading something about Sony wanting to sell PS2 games Virtual Console style for PS3 owners in the future.

01-03-2009, 02:17 PM	#10
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	There are three levels of PS3 BC support, and they're spread out over several different drive sizes. There's full support, which is in first generation PS3's that contain the entire emotion engine chip from the PS2; then there's software emulation contained in the second generation of PS3's, which only works on select games; then there's no BC at all in every new third generation PS3. It's completely retarded, and pretty funny considering they slammed Microsoft on the BC point over and over again.

02-04-2009, 06:02 PM	#15
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	It was widely proclaimed that hardware BC was cut for cost purposes, and emulation wasn't an interest to them to fix. Now that it's gone completely, Sony can attempt to screw late adopters even more by charging to download PS2 and PS1 games over PSN. Not that they've even announced plans to allow PS2 games to be DL'd over their online service, but it's probably just a matter of time. TMB is just trying to be an overacting alarmist, as usual.

02-04-2009, 06:11 PM	#17
Peanut Second Gear Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: The New World Posts: 15,422	Because they're making money off of downloadable games? They're a business, aren't they? Why hire a group of people to perfect emulation of something you'll never make money on? I don't think anyone will argue that their software emulation was cut out to make room for downloadable PS2 games, but acting like it was the reason BC was cut entirely just isn't right.

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