The Technodrome Forums

Go Back   The Technodrome Forums > General Forums > General Discussion > TV and Movies

Notices

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-04-2012, 09:59 PM   #21
Logan
Hench Mutant
 
Logan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Michigan
Posts: 483
Star Blazers and Robotech managed to get aired with death scenes intact. (ironically, Robotech's Macross Saga has a higher body count than its original source material)

Transformers also had a death as well, if I recall correctly. "War Dawn", I think.
__________________
We're a team; and as a team let's go kick some ass!

-Leonardo

Logan the Layman Critic, a youtube channel for movie reviews and animation appreciation.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjn...xrKPml1WlYh6Mw
Logan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2012, 10:07 PM   #22
Mandi-chan
Stone Warrior
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Posts: 932
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sage Ninja View Post
I remember that actually disturbing me as a little kid. Especially Jerry's young mouse nephew cheerfully saying "goodbye, pussycat" after watching it happen and continuing on his merry way with his stolen food. I guess it was how blase Jerry and the kid was about it. Especially since it was made clear in the episode that Tom would be executed for
That very cartoon was the reason for my long-standing hatred for Tom and Jerry when I was a kid.

BTW, what is that picture in your signature from? The artwork looks very familiar, but I can't remember what it's from or who the artist is.
Mandi-chan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2012, 11:13 PM   #23
gobo
Wacky Action
 
gobo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: on Earth
Posts: 12,784
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mandi-chan View Post
That very cartoon was the reason for my long-standing hatred for Tom and Jerry when I was a kid.
Kinda me too. I could never see Jerry as the harmless goodguy anymore. LONG LIVE SPEEDY GONZALES!!
__________________
Live and let live... or go to hell.

gobo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-04-2012, 11:52 PM   #24
oldmanwinters
Overlord
 
oldmanwinters's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Between yesterday and tomorrow!
Posts: 15,505
Aw, come on, folks, "The Two Mouseketeers" is hilarious!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF4dW87c-K8#t=06m40s

The thing about Tom and Jerry cartoons is that no matter what happened to the characters in the end of any given episode, you knew they'd be right back to the cat-n-mouse game in the next episode. It's similar to some of the old Looney Tunes shorts where some major characters like Daffy occasionally died and went to hell. That's just how animation rolled back in the mid-twentieth century!
__________________

Experience the TMNT Fan Commentaries!
Check out my TMNT fan comic, "Nothing to Fear"!
View my sketch work!
I'm selling some of my hard-to-find TMNT items!
oldmanwinters is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2012, 12:31 AM   #25
Jester
Rat-faced Dude-guy
 
Jester's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 26,301
Quote:
Originally Posted by oldmanwinters View Post
Aw, come on, folks, "The Two Mouseketeers" is hilarious!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF4dW87c-K8#t=06m40s

The thing about Tom and Jerry cartoons is that no matter what happened to the characters in the end of any given episode, you knew they'd be right back to the cat-n-mouse game in the next episode. It's similar to some of the old Looney Tunes shorts where some major characters like Daffy occasionally died and went to hell. That's just how animation rolled back in the mid-twentieth century!
If it weren't for stuff like this, we'd have never gotten Itchy and Scratchy...
__________________

"Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656
Jester is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2012, 06:02 AM   #26
Type 97 Chi-ha
Mad Scientist
 
Type 97 Chi-ha's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Brookfield, IL
Posts: 1,333
Quote:
Originally Posted by XERO View Post
Kenny in South Park.
But South Park was very obviously not meant as kids' entertainment, despite its being animated and having child characters.
Type 97 Chi-ha is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2012, 06:15 PM   #27
BubblyShell22
Leo-holic
 
BubblyShell22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Indiana
Posts: 16,912
No, but the topic is death in cartoons, and South Park is still a cartoon although it's aimed at adults and not kids.

And I agree about Looney Tunes. Wile E. Coyote was always the target for death, but he always came back to try and catch the Road Runner. Beep! Beep!
__________________
"A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One.

"Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.
BubblyShell22 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2012, 07:03 PM   #28
Jester
Rat-faced Dude-guy
 
Jester's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Arkansas
Posts: 26,301
I should have been specific. It was intended to discuss the censorship of death in children's cartoons....
__________________

"Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656
Jester is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2012, 07:12 PM   #29
gobo
Wacky Action
 
gobo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: on Earth
Posts: 12,784
Casper wasn't born a ghost... I don't think.

Duke died in G.I.Joe: The Movie. Don't remember exactly how they put it in words though.

And, Optimus Prime died in his movie.
__________________
Live and let live... or go to hell.

gobo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2012, 07:13 PM   #30
XERO
Hybrid Theorist
 
XERO's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Alamo City
Posts: 8,185
Quote:
Originally Posted by Type 97 Chi-ha View Post
But South Park was very obviously not meant as kids' entertainment, despite its being animated and having child characters.
If you wanna get fancy about it, with all the taboo-ness the Looney Tunes got away with, at least South Park was honest about what they represented.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Jester
I should have been specific. It was intended to discuss the censorship of death in children's cartoons....
My mistake then.
__________________

"Travel at the speed of light... then hit the nitro!"
XERO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2012, 07:16 PM   #31
Candy Kappa
The Agenda of Existing
 
Candy Kappa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Vikingland
Posts: 14,596
Quote:
Originally Posted by gobo View Post
Optimus Prime died in his movie.
the whole Transformers movie was a slaughterfest to make way for the new toys. and it was awesome, in a scary way
Candy Kappa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-05-2012, 07:25 PM   #32
gobo
Wacky Action
 
gobo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: on Earth
Posts: 12,784
A bunch of those leaf-people in TCats11 died.
__________________
Live and let live... or go to hell.

gobo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2012, 03:37 AM   #33
Candy Kappa
The Agenda of Existing
 
Candy Kappa's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Vikingland
Posts: 14,596
Quote:
Originally Posted by gobo View Post
A bunch of those leaf-people in TCats11 died.
saddest thundercats episode to date.


Batman Brave and the Bold had a lot of death as well, it was really well done, the flashback scene of the death of Mr. and Mrs. Wayne and the death of Animal Man.

and that Bat-Mite episode...
Candy Kappa is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2012, 12:14 PM   #34
Sage Ninja
Band of the Hawk
 
Sage Ninja's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: USA
Posts: 3,927
Quote:
Originally Posted by oldmanwinters View Post
Aw, come on, folks, "The Two Mouseketeers" is hilarious!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BF4dW87c-K8#t=06m40s!
...erm, not really. I kind of wanted to stomp on that little french mouse after that. My feelings on this episoide are still the same after all these years. Sometimes I actually felt more for Tom than Jerry, even though Tom was normally the one who started it.

I guess it is a weord double standard because Bugs Bunny coulkd be a bully at times even when the other started it and I was always fine with it. In fact when ever Bugs go up against that turtle I would get made because Bugs came out the loser in those cartoons, and some how became a dumbass on the same level of Elmer Fudd. WTF? To me that just wasn't right, Bug's should always be on top. And yet I didn't mind when one of his normal adversaries got one over him. Like the short where Elmer Fudd torments Bug's with a paint brush! That was genuanly amusing.
__________________

Cassandra: You won't fight me, but will you fight--for him!

Cassandra's Revenge

~Tangled the Series
________________________________
http://frankviola.org/2012/01/30/godsviewofawoman/
_______________________________
http://nox-artemis.tumblr.com/post/4...k-and-feminism
Sage Ninja is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2012, 12:51 PM   #35
Cure
Y'all need Jesus
 
Cure's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 8,938
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sage Ninja View Post
In fact when ever Bugs go up against that turtle I would get made because Bugs came out the loser in those cartoons, and some how became a dumbass on the same level of Elmer Fudd. WTF? To me that just wasn't right, Bug's should always be on top.
There are rules when it comes to Bugs. He wins when going against dimwits but his overconfidence gets the best of him when going up against characters like Cecil. I forgot where I read that, though.
__________________
Cure is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2012, 12:56 PM   #36
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan
Overlord
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Sweden
Posts: 10,481
Big Cufflink Caper

I noticed someone wonder if we didn't see off-screen human death caused by action in the "Big Cufflink Caper" 1987 TMNT episode inside the candy factory. Actually, Michelangelo first saves April and Irma from being dipped in that hot candy, then Leonardo kicks down the gangsters in the vat. It seemed that if April and Irma would fall down there, dying.
Original TMNT Cartoon Fan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-06-2012, 04:36 PM   #37
oldmanwinters
Overlord
 
oldmanwinters's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Between yesterday and tomorrow!
Posts: 15,505
Tom could be pretty creepy too!


Quote:
Originally Posted by Sage Ninja View Post

I guess it is a weord double standard because Bugs Bunny coulkd be a bully at times even when the other started it and I was always fine with it. In fact when ever Bugs go up against that turtle I would get made because Bugs came out the loser in those cartoons, and some how became a dumbass on the same level of Elmer Fudd. WTF? To me that just wasn't right, Bug's should always be on top. And yet I didn't mind when one of his normal adversaries got one over him. Like the short where Elmer Fudd torments Bug's with a paint brush! That was genuanly amusing.
Eh, it probably just depended on the animation director and the era.

Looney Tunes characters certainly underwent character evolution over time.

Tex Avery directed the first "Tortoise and the Hair" inspired Bugs cartoon and he portrayed Bugs into an almost Daffy Duck-like character. In 1941, Bugs still sported his old animation design seen in earlier shorts, which often had him acting far less cool and suave as the world would come to know him in time. The Tortoise was one of the few characters (like the Gremlin) to really get under Bugs's skin. Bob Clampett made a sequel two years later with a redesigned Bugs model who was still bitter about his defeat.

Daffy Duck himself started out as a hyper-active character who gradually grew into the cynical, jealous deviant under Chuck Jones. I think John K. really resents Jones for that too. Jones also perfected the notion of Bugs as the all-wise character who almost never got frustrated or outwitted.
__________________

Experience the TMNT Fan Commentaries!
Check out my TMNT fan comic, "Nothing to Fear"!
View my sketch work!
I'm selling some of my hard-to-find TMNT items!

Last edited by oldmanwinters; 03-06-2012 at 06:41 PM.
oldmanwinters is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2012, 01:45 PM   #38
Logan
Hench Mutant
 
Logan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2011
Location: Michigan
Posts: 483
Transformers Prime has had some deaths, mostly the stock Decepticons, but Cliffjumper was a major one.
__________________
We're a team; and as a team let's go kick some ass!

-Leonardo

Logan the Layman Critic, a youtube channel for movie reviews and animation appreciation.
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCjn...xrKPml1WlYh6Mw
Logan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2012, 01:53 PM   #39
gobo
Wacky Action
 
gobo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: on Earth
Posts: 12,784
Was there ever a Disney animated feature that didn't have an implied death of the antagonist?
__________________
Live and let live... or go to hell.

gobo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-07-2012, 04:10 PM   #40
BubblyShell22
Leo-holic
 
BubblyShell22's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2007
Location: Indiana
Posts: 16,912
*tries to think off the top of her head*

Nope, I've got nothing.

And don't forget the deaths of Bambi's mother and Mufasa. Those were some emotional moments.
__________________
"A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One.

"Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.
BubblyShell22 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 11:18 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.