What do you think is the worst thing in TMNT history?

[zkarlette]

I really didn't care for the April origin story...

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by zkarlette

I really didn't care for the April origin story...

April having an ordinary human background is a nice contrast to the fantastic origin of the turtles.

[zkarlette]

Originally Posted by Swedenfan 1982

April having an ordinary human background is a nice contrast to the fantastic origin of the turtles.

I found April's origin way stranger than mutant turtles

[Leo656]

I hated the April is a drawing origin story. Really didn't like the "back in time as a cockroach/implied that she mated with other cockroaches" twist at all. Gross, weird, and not necessary. I think it's funny that Peter says often, how "lame" it is when people discuss how "neat" it would be if there were a secret Fifth Turtle. And he's right, that's pretty cheesy and lame. But he actually thought the April angle was BETTER? He must have, because he wrote it. I could actually believe there were 5 turtles in the bowl at one point, it's a dumb retcon but not implausible. April's origin isn't just implausible, it's done with such earnest delivery that you can tell he really wants it to be taken seriously. Doesn't work. Part of me could even accept Venus if the character had a different origin or was handled in a different way, but I refuse to accept that April was sketched into existence by a magic pencil.

I'd hate it the same if it were any other main character, in any other series, it's just a dumb idea. "Lois Lane was secretly a magic drawing?" "Batman actually wished Robin into existence by doodling on a magic Etch-A-Sketch?" I'm sorry, it just doesn't work for me. Other than the Turtles Tunes/Christmas tapes, this is by far the thing I hate the most, even moreso because if you describe the story to someone, it sounds so stupid they'd refuse to believe it, and yet it's "Official". I get how it works on a "meta" level - after all, they're ALL just drawings, "GET IT?" - but it doesn't work at all as a character's "actual" backstory. It's the kind of thing that when Grant Morrison does it, people get all pissed off. And Grant Morrison may have had Batman go back in time, but he didn't have him f*ck a cockroach, or even imply it. I knew the book was all downhill from there. Thank God for Tales, which was better than Vol. 4 in almost every way.

Sorry, I can obviously see how some people really like that story, but I'm pretty sure I'll never agree or understand why. Good for you for liking it though, I just pretend it didn't happen, because, like "Superman: Birthright", the world was just a better place before its existence.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by zkarlette

I found April's origin way stranger than mutant turtles

The drawing, yes. That's what I oppose.

[Cryomancer]

The drawing thing could have been good if it was ever important in any way. As it is, it doesn't really go anywhere. Cipher's ideas above are good examples of things it could have been a setup for.

Semi-edit: Just looked up a summary on wiki and I had already forgotten that it did involve her not being able to have kids and actually came after her becoming Nobody. I was thinking those could have been tied in somehow, but I guess they already were and I forgot, so I guess they did involve something, at least.

I suppose the idea of connecting the Kirby world to the Battle Nexus effectively removes any fear she should have of disappearing, as if she did, she could just get back that way.

edit: typed up my feelings after having finished watching 4kids in another thread and it reminded me of another terrible thing in TMNT history: Leonardo riding around on one of those dumb folding scooter things, as if it was supposed to be cool.

[Original TMNT Cartoon Fan]

Originally Posted by Cryomancer

Semi-edit: Just looked up a summary on wiki and I had already forgotten that it did involve her not being able to have kids and actually came after her becoming Nobody. I was thinking those could have been tied in somehow, but I guess they already were and I forgot, so I guess they did involve something, at least.

There are actually some women who can't get kids due to some medical problems, no matter how much they try. And they are not drawings...

[Cryomancer]

Originally Posted by Swedenfan 1982

There are actually some women who can't get kids due to some medical problems, no matter how much they try. And they are not drawings...

Of course, but it's one of the questions that you might ask yourself if you found out you were a drawing.

[FoxZerro]

Originally Posted by Leo656

this is by far the thing I hate the most, even moreso because if you describe the story to someone, it sounds so stupid they'd refuse to believe it, and yet it's "Official".

I agree, I remember telling my sister about it and she flat out refused to believe it was the case. Then when she bought the issue to see for herself we had a long discussion

Originally Posted by Cryomancer

The drawing thing could have been good if it was ever important in any way.

Which tied in nicely to this post. My sister felt that it was odd that April didn't have a bigger reaction to the whole thing. She said it felt like she was more bothered by the cockroach stuff than the fact that she is a drawing. Which in rereading is kind of true. The book is sort of your entire existence up until this point is a lie and she focuses on that explaning why she can't have children. Sure it ends with the "I'm Nobody." line but even that is resolved rather quickly.