Official Episode Discussion #5 "I Think His Name Is Baxter Stockman" - Page 8

*The Stryker* · 10-21-2012, 05:04 PM

To be fair. I always get alittle depressed whenever I see that Cybercubed still exists.

*Candy Kappa* · 10-21-2012, 05:09 PM

Was a fun episode, a wee bit overboard with the anime expressions

*CyberCubed* · 10-21-2012, 05:09 PM

I am certain he wasn't being serious. Nobody who professionally works in the entertainment business is going to be upset about people comparing the Nick show to the previous cartoon. Writers are not thin-skinned and know good and well new iterations will always be compared to previous versions.

As of now I do feel like 4kids Baxter had better characterization in his debut ep, with his financial backer being Shredder and the promise of looking at alien artifacts.

This Baxter pretty much got angry because he broke a coffee machine at his job, I am hoping for a little more development than this.

*Candy Kappa* · 10-21-2012, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

This Baxter pretty much got angry because he broke a coffee machine at his job, I am hoping for a little more development than this.

Seems more like Baxter being fired was the straw that broke the camel's back, then just being angry over one instance.

*CyberCubed* · 10-21-2012, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

Seems more like Baxter being fired was the straw that broke the camel's back, then just being angry over one instance.

I dunno, that one worker seemed pretty happy to see him.

If that was the TCRI building it seems humans work there and not just the Kraang.

*Candy Kappa* · 10-21-2012, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I dunno, that one worker seemed pretty happy to see him.

did you not pay attention to the episode?

the rant Baxter had about how everyone ridiculed him and made fun of him since childhood?

**Jester** · 10-21-2012, 05:23 PM

Ah, see there's the rub. It all goes back to the "Can Baxter work as a solo villain or does have have to be the main villain's lacky?" I have little problem with this Baxter. Maybe it's because I was once a put-upon working stiff that I can relate to a guy who feels that he can't get ahead and wants his come-upins. Besides, Baxter's 4Kids debut was in 2 episodes, this Baxter has had half the time to get any development. Give the man some time.

*CyberCubed* · 10-21-2012, 05:26 PM

I kinda hope he gets driven insane by his humiliation. Either way I think it's obvious he comes up with the Mousers from the tech in this armor. Everyone noticed the Mouser head that latched into Leo.

I think this is the first Baxter other than the OT that isn't the owner of his own company in Stocktronics.

*MrTMNT2012* · 10-21-2012, 05:38 PM

Is that really Ciro Nieli on this Forum? Are there any proof?

*sdp* · 10-21-2012, 05:40 PM

There is no reason why we shouldn't be able to complain, I mean this stockman had a very childish and weak motivation, now he may be redeemed later on but so far he is the weakest stockman and that's saying a lot since OT stockman was there, his motivation seems out of an 80s or early 90s cartoon. Hard to take seriously. I also didn't like his afro or character design much but then again most humans in the show haven't been good either.

I think Stockman can easily be redeemed later on but there is no doubt his first appearance left a lot to be desired. The only main gripe and it's a big one that I have is that the episode also made him seem like a B-list supervillian only being a threat because of an accident and his actual genius only made this ridiculous suit that was not even a threat.

I'd love to see this Stockman eventually mutate to a fly though, maybe he can lose parts of his body and to recreate them he accidentally becomes a fly.

*gobo* · 10-21-2012, 06:07 PM

When my DVR decided not to record the ep Saturday morning, I should have taken that as a sign. Instead, I watched an encore presentation. I'll never get that half-hour of my life back. What a wimpy follow-up to last week's ep...

*The Stryker* · 10-21-2012, 06:29 PM

Does every character have to have some insanely deep and dark backstory? This Baxter is clearly meant to be goofy and bumbling so far. I'd rather have this over the cliched and boring 2k3 version.

But then again I like having fun when I watch cartoons made for children so maybe I'm missing the point. I don't really concern myself with questions like 'Is he threatening enough?' or 'What are the other characters doing? EXPLAIN TO MEEEE'

**Machias Banshee** · 10-21-2012, 06:35 PM

..I can't believe you guys drove off the Executive producer for the show....

This is the same bullcrap that drove off the Mirage guys from ever coming here. Dammit...

*NinjaMan* · 10-21-2012, 06:53 PM

Maybe Ciro will change his mind and come back? I hope so.

*TurtleTitan97* · 10-21-2012, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaMan

Maybe Ciro will change his mind and come back? I hope so.

Same here, dude.

Utromshredderhater · 10-21-2012, 07:04 PM

Did anyone else realize that Raph got the Cork screw blow

*TheSkeletonMan939* · 10-21-2012, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MrTMNT2012

Is that really Ciro Nieli on this Forum? Are there any proof?

Well, he explained who Don's pet (Chong) was named after.

*CyberCubed* · 10-21-2012, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Machias Banshee

..I can't believe you guys drove off the Executive producer for the show....

This is the same bullcrap that drove off the Mirage guys from ever coming here. Dammit...

Pretty much all that was said was that Baxter's debut in the 4kids series was done better, at least IMO. An overreaction to something as simple as preference makes little sense.

I liked this episode, but I wasn't too keen on Baxter himself. Not sure why this prompted such a debate.

*Rooish* · 10-21-2012, 08:00 PM

Ciro, people LOVE this show! I see mostly glee mixed with constructive criticism. But yes, fans are never fully happy, so I guess we can be depressing. We will keep watching the show and getting our fix though!

The humour and character interactions and script and animation and action in the show are great. I agree that sometimes the plots are a bit weak (and yes PL would have thought this Baxter was a wussy villain). April's character hasn't been handled well yet and we are just worried because she is a big part of TMNT. It is a kid's show so the plot doesn't need to be particularly tight--but we are mostly older, so that sort of thing frustrates us. Doesn't mean the show isn't 100% enjoyable.

Splinter's a bit, uh, violent towards his kids though!

On an unrelated note, I never much liked Fugitoid either, mostly because he was when the series got all sci-fi (I mean, besides the mutant turtles part).

Vivi · 10-21-2012, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BAXTER STOCKMAN 19

Ths is my favorite episode so far! My first apperance in Nick cartoon! I almost killed the turtles i was so close to destroy them! But next time they will not escape me

View Poll Results: And what do you think would be a fitting punishment..?
The first rule of being a ninja is do no harm. Unless you mean to do harm, then cause LOTS of harm!	47	50.00%
Yes... but first, RONDORI!	15	15.96%
I don't know if we should pound him or get him an ice cream cone...	15	15.96%
It's POLKA! Make it STOP...!	17	18.09%
Voters: 94. You may not vote on this poll

10-21-2012, 05:04 PM	#141
The Stryker Stupid Rich Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Room 237 Posts: 11,152	To be fair. I always get alittle depressed whenever I see that Cybercubed still exists. __________________ @~<3 Mom~@

10-21-2012, 05:09 PM	#142
Candy Kappa The Agenda of Existing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vikingland Posts: 14,596	Was a fun episode, a wee bit overboard with the anime expressions __________________ devianArt Instagram Youtube Tumblr Art Blog Patreon

10-21-2012, 05:23 PM	#147
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,300	Ah, see there's the rub. It all goes back to the "Can Baxter work as a solo villain or does have have to be the main villain's lacky?" I have little problem with this Baxter. Maybe it's because I was once a put-upon working stiff that I can relate to a guy who feels that he can't get ahead and wants his come-upins. Besides, Baxter's 4Kids debut was in 2 episodes, this Baxter has had half the time to get any development. Give the man some time. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

10-21-2012, 05:40 PM	#150
sdp Detoxed Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Tokio, Italy Posts: 11,216	There is no reason why we shouldn't be able to complain, I mean this stockman had a very childish and weak motivation, now he may be redeemed later on but so far he is the weakest stockman and that's saying a lot since OT stockman was there, his motivation seems out of an 80s or early 90s cartoon. Hard to take seriously. I also didn't like his afro or character design much but then again most humans in the show haven't been good either. I think Stockman can easily be redeemed later on but there is no doubt his first appearance left a lot to be desired. The only main gripe and it's a big one that I have is that the episode also made him seem like a B-list supervillian only being a threat because of an accident and his actual genius only made this ridiculous suit that was not even a threat. I'd love to see this Stockman eventually mutate to a fly though, maybe he can lose parts of his body and to recreate them he accidentally becomes a fly. __________________ *Trapt* *urself Page MiscRave!!!* Click to join The Drome Discord server

10-21-2012, 05:09 PM	#143
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,872	I am certain he wasn't being serious. Nobody who professionally works in the entertainment business is going to be upset about people comparing the Nick show to the previous cartoon. Writers are not thin-skinned and know good and well new iterations will always be compared to previous versions. As of now I do feel like 4kids Baxter had better characterization in his debut ep, with his financial backer being Shredder and the promise of looking at alien artifacts. This Baxter pretty much got angry because he broke a coffee machine at his job, I am hoping for a little more development than this.

10-21-2012, 05:26 PM	#148
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,872	I kinda hope he gets driven insane by his humiliation. Either way I think it's obvious he comes up with the Mousers from the tech in this armor. Everyone noticed the Mouser head that latched into Leo. I think this is the first Baxter other than the OT that isn't the owner of his own company in Stocktronics.

10-21-2012, 05:38 PM	#149
MrTMNT2012 Mad Scientist Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,512	Is that really Ciro Nieli on this Forum? Are there any proof?

10-21-2012, 06:07 PM	#151
gobo Wacky Action Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on Earth Posts: 12,784	When my DVR decided not to record the ep Saturday morning, I should have taken that as a sign. Instead, I watched an encore presentation. I'll never get that half-hour of my life back. What a wimpy follow-up to last week's ep... __________________ Live and let live... or go to hell.

10-21-2012, 06:29 PM	#152
The Stryker Stupid Rich Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Room 237 Posts: 11,152	Does every character have to have some insanely deep and dark backstory? This Baxter is clearly meant to be goofy and bumbling so far. I'd rather have this over the cliched and boring 2k3 version. But then again I like having fun when I watch cartoons made for children so maybe I'm missing the point. I don't really concern myself with questions like 'Is he threatening enough?' or 'What are the other characters doing? EXPLAIN TO MEEEE' __________________ @~<3 Mom~@

10-21-2012, 06:35 PM	#153
Machias Banshee Super Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 17,163	..I can't believe you guys drove off the Executive producer for the show.... This is the same bullcrap that drove off the Mirage guys from ever coming here. Dammit...

10-21-2012, 06:53 PM	#154
NinjaMan Mad Scientist Join Date: Sep 2012 Posts: 1,579	Maybe Ciro will change his mind and come back? I hope so.

10-21-2012, 07:04 PM	#156
Utromshredderhater Hench Mutant Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 255	Did anyone else realize that Raph got the Cork screw blow

10-21-2012, 08:00 PM	#159
Rooish Devil's Advocate Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Toronto, Ontario Posts: 2,130	Ciro, people LOVE this show! I see mostly glee mixed with constructive criticism. But yes, fans are never fully happy, so I guess we can be depressing. We will keep watching the show and getting our fix though! The humour and character interactions and script and animation and action in the show are great. I agree that sometimes the plots are a bit weak (and yes PL would have thought this Baxter was a wussy villain). April's character hasn't been handled well yet and we are just worried because she is a big part of TMNT. It is a kid's show so the plot doesn't need to be particularly tight--but we are mostly older, so that sort of thing frustrates us. Doesn't mean the show isn't 100% enjoyable. Splinter's a bit, uh, violent towards his kids though! On an unrelated note, I never much liked Fugitoid either, mostly because he was when the series got all sci-fi (I mean, besides the mutant turtles part).