Official Ep Discussion #14 "New Girl in Town"

[Forneus]

Caught this sucker a bit late, but yeah, I freaking LOVED it. This episode had a little pinch of everything that I love about this show. We had Splinter being the badass he always is, a new, fun character, a villain to plow through, great humor and dialogues, and outstanding action scenes. And with Karai obviously, comes the Foot and it's always fun to see the mooks get pounded.

I had no qualms about Karai's design so seeing her in action made her look even better to me. What a great incarnation. She's got some sweet moves and I can't wait to see more action out of her. Shame she didn't join in the Snakeweed fight. Oh well. No biggie! Can't wait to see more of her. Them anti-heroes are just too much fun in TMNT. Can't wait to see Nick's take on good ol' Casey Jones now. But still, Karai! I so want a figure of her, right about now. Love all the little things that make her stick out more in your mind (piercings, blonde hair, etc). And Kelly Hu did a fantastic job for the voice IMO.

Raphael's freaking MK like fatality on SW, actually blew my damn mind. That was one of the most kickass things ever in TMNT. Ever! So. Much. Win. This is still a kid's show but Snakeweed not only looks like a plant Tyrant from Resident Evil (dat beating heart. With the spiked oversized arm from Dogpound, I get tons of RE vibes) but he now gets one of the best finishes ever. Not a real plus on him though, but still. Dat BOOYAKASHA!

[snake]

When will be the estimated time for playmates to make a karai figure, I really want one.

[Zulithe]

Maybe they don't think it will be very marketable after the lukewarm response to the April figure O.o I hope I'm wrong and they are working on one for a 2013 release.

[TheCollector]

I really hope they do release a figure of Karai, they did for the 2k3 cartoon and 2k7 movie, so I don't see why they wouldn't for this.

Well, that's my mind trying to think up excuses for why they should anyway. God I hope they do, I want a Karai figure and the others are way to expensive now.

[snake]

I at least hope when or if they do, she has elbow articulation
Unlike April

[Utromshredderhater]

Never thought I'd sayy this but Karai is Scarier then Azula

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by Utromshredderhater

Never thought I'd sayy this but Karai is Scarier then Azula

really? azula was crazy

[Irishmile]

Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

really? azula was crazy

I had to look up Azula because I couldn't think of any tmnt character by that name I thought maybe it was a character from the later 4kids seasons or image books because I am not as familiar with those.. But it's an avatar thing right? I never watched that.

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by Irishmile

I had to look up Azula because I couldn't think of any tmnt character by that name I thought maybe it was a character from the later 4kids seasons or image books because I am not as familiar with those.. But it's an avatar thing right? I never watched that.

she's really crazy for a character...she ruled pretty much everyone with fear..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=50ix8gy1IaE <-- this is when she's in a good mood (no lie)

and that was just a filler episode XD it doesn't do her justice

but I don't think Karai was meant to be scary :3 she seems more rebellious

[Irishmile]

Yeah I agree this karai isn't scary to me at all. She certainly seems competent, but not scary.. It could be because I do not find children scary, but more likely she isn't meant to be. it would be counterproductive to the "could she turn into a good guy?" Story they're trying to do.

[demonsweat]

Originally Posted by snakeweed101

I at least hope when or if they do, she has elbow articulation
Unlike April

Yeah, this. April is not poseable at all. Shredder's a bit lacking too, IMO.

[Bossa Nova]

After watching this, my sister pointed out that Nick is going to bring in Angel just to be a crush for Raph. She was joking, but honestly, I don't even feel it's that far-fetched anymore. I really, really hate that this who stupid high school puppy love crap is being played up as much as it is. People have been shipping April/Don and Karai/Leo long before it was SHOVED in our faces, so obviously there was enough to go off of without screaming it to the world. Now Karai isn't this complex, interesting badass Foot clan member. She's been turned into Leo's girlfriend. I hate it.

I also hate how Leo doesn't seem to give even the slightest damn that she IS the enemy. Seriously, he doesn't even think twice about it. I could see if maybe his affection for her developed over time or he didn't know she was a part of the Foot to begin with and he discovered it after he already crushed on her, that would make a bit more sense. But as of right now it's like he's giving a very blatant **** YOU to not only his brothers, but Splinter especially.

Anyway, I DO like Karai and I feel like this episode touched on a dozen interesting things (Raph/Leo spat, Raph learning his lesson, bringing back Snakeweed), that I sort of wish it had been split into different episodes, but I'm not displeased with it all being mushed into one.

[zkarlette]

I also think Leo fell for Karai a little to quickly to dismiss the fact that she is part of the foot.

[RaphAndDonnie]

Originally Posted by Bossa Nova

I also hate how Leo doesn't seem to give even the slightest damn that she IS the enemy. Seriously, he doesn't even think twice about it. I could see if maybe his affection for her developed over time or he didn't know she was a part of the Foot to begin with and he discovered it after he already crushed on her, that would make a bit more sense. But as of right now it's like he's giving a very blatant **** YOU to not only his brothers, but Splinter especially.

To me, it seemed like Leo didn't take her seriously as an enemy. He just thought "She's just being rebellious and cool." I really don't want to actually see that happen with Karai. I want her to be a strong enemy who the turtles HAVE to worry about.

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by RaphAndDonnie

To me, it seemed like Leo didn't take her seriously as an enemy. He just thought "She's just being rebellious and cool." I really don't want to actually see that happen with Karai. I want her to be a strong enemy who the turtles HAVE to worry about.

well Leo might think Karai is cool and pretty.....but I don't think Karai feels that way toward Leo...

she just thinks he's interesting and let's face it. He's a mutant turtle with ninjutsu skillz!! she would be crazy if she didn't take some interest!(not in a love way)

[RaphAndDonnie]

Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

well Leo might think Karai is cool and pretty.....but I don't think Karai feels that way toward Leo...

she just thinks he's interesting and let's face it. He's a mutant turtle with ninjutsu skillz!! she would be crazy if she didn't take some interest!(not in a love way)

No I don't think Karai feels that way towards Leo either. I'm just saying that I hope the writers don't go down that path...because I think it would tarnish her character a bit for me.

[Yorae]

Originally Posted by Bossa Nova

I also hate how Leo doesn't seem to give even the slightest damn that she IS the enemy. Seriously, he doesn't even think twice about it. I could see if maybe his affection for her developed over time or he didn't know she was a part of the Foot to begin with and he discovered it after he already crushed on her, that would make a bit more sense. But as of right now it's like he's giving a very blatant **** YOU to not only his brothers, but Splinter especially.

Originally Posted by zkarlette

I also think Leo fell for Karai a little to quickly to dismiss the fact that she is part of the foot.

Let's not forget that when he first met Karai, Leo was frustrated and angry as shown by his erratic pacing and bashing of things left and right on the roof top. I think Karai caught him in a vulnerable moment when Leo was so sick and tired of his responsibility as leader and desperate for an escape. His fascination with Karai is some sort of subconcious rebellion in a way and was determined in his mind in a moment of unclarity. I'm sure we'll see him suffering for his decision later on. (he will surely have to answer to Splinter for instance)

Also, it seemed to me that he did have some guilt about liking a girl from the enemy, as he tells April something like "I'm tired of being the responsible one. When can I have some fun?" This reminds me of the excuses I get from my teenage siblings when they do something they know they're not supposed to.

[BabyTurtles]

Originally Posted by RaphAndDonnie

No I don't think Karai feels that way towards Leo either. I'm just saying that I hope the writers don't go down that path...because I think it would tarnish her character a bit for me.

I know how you feel....

I just want a April centric episode that doesn't have Donnie's crush as the subplot.

:3 but it's only what? 14 episodes I shall be patient

[BubblyShell22]

Originally Posted by Bossa Nova

After watching this, my sister pointed out that Nick is going to bring in Angel just to be a crush for Raph. She was joking, but honestly, I don't even feel it's that far-fetched anymore. I really, really hate that this who stupid high school puppy love crap is being played up as much as it is. People have been shipping April/Don and Karai/Leo long before it was SHOVED in our faces, so obviously there was enough to go off of without screaming it to the world. Now Karai isn't this complex, interesting badass Foot clan member. She's been turned into Leo's girlfriend. I hate it.

I also hate how Leo doesn't seem to give even the slightest damn that she IS the enemy. Seriously, he doesn't even think twice about it. I could see if maybe his affection for her developed over time or he didn't know she was a part of the Foot to begin with and he discovered it after he already crushed on her, that would make a bit more sense. But as of right now it's like he's giving a very blatant **** YOU to not only his brothers, but Splinter especially.

Anyway, I DO like Karai and I feel like this episode touched on a dozen interesting things (Raph/Leo spat, Raph learning his lesson, bringing back Snakeweed), that I sort of wish it had been split into different episodes, but I'm not displeased with it all being mushed into one.

He didn't really give a damn in 4Kids either at first. He thought he saw good in her and wanted her to go down the right path. It was only after she stabbed him with his own katana that he realized Karai couldn't be trusted at all. I think something similar is going to happen in this show as well and that Leo's going to pay for what he thinks about her. I think she's going to betray him and he's going to get hurt either physically or mentally due to it. Then again, the show could surprise us, but we all know good things can't last. Sooner or later, either Splinter or Shredder are going to get wind of this, and it won't look good for Leo at all.

[Darth Knuckles]

For me this is probably my fourth favorite episode so far. I liked the reappearance of Snakeweed. At first I thought Raphael did kill him and I was feeling like the character was wasted. But then we see Snakweed's heart still beating so I was happy about that.

I liked the "Raph as leader" theme and I do agree with it for his first real mission as leader. It reminded me of how Raph acts in the first movie and TMNT where he tries to save everyone, and that it seems to be his main goal in doing what he does. He even wants to save people from harm before bashing in heads usually. He's a tough guy but he does care. We saw that with his reaction to Mikey getting hurt. I always liked how Raph liked Mikey the best out of his brothers because Mikey is my favorite turtle behind Raph too, of course.

Karai was pretty interesting I thought. I liked her more than I thought I would. The design didn't lessen her importance to the story like I thought it might when I saw her design for the first time. She'll be an interesting reoccurring character. As she is rebelling against her training and duties she should be an interesting ally in certain situations. I also like how it appears that she actually is Shredder's daughter in this series. Her mother may be of interest to Splinter huh?