Splinters name

[Shredded]

honestly guys.

Splinter and Shredder were both members of some sort of a ninja clan.

Those really doesn't exist in our modern world, so clearly this show is bending the rules for what is and what isn't.

Just the fact that the Shredder uses foot ninjas instead of people with guns, and really have an old-school ninja clan should tell us some-thing.

So the fact that they were ninjas in Japan, what does that tell us?
What is a ninja? it's a warrior, which means, they were profesional warriors, even training other profesional warriors, what is another word for "Profeional warrior." well erh.. Soldier.

So they were members of what we could call Japans force of profesional warriors, or soldiers. It was very likely they were send to battle together, and were on a lot of "ninja field missions." together, which we could also call. "Soldier field missions." they are sort of the same thing, only ninja is more assian.

So well, that is what they are, profesional warriors aka profesional soldiers, so they were to battle together ones, hench to photo, which is clearly from some kind of a field mission they were ad together. It's perfectly logical.

[ToTheNines]

Oh my God, stop babbling and look at this:



I see dog tags and a camo helmet. They were obviously in the Jieitai together. Like I said, Japan hasn't had a military conflict since WWII, but they still could have gone on dangerous disaster relief missions together. Or I guess the fictional history of the Nicktoon's universe could have Japan involved in some war during the 80's.

[Shredded]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

I see dog tags and a camo helmet. They were obviously in the Jieitai together. Like I said, Japan hasn't had a military conflict since WWII, but they still could have gone on dangerous disaster relief missions together. Or I guess the fictional history of the Nicktoon's universe could have Japan involved in some war during the 80's.

That was the exact picture I was just talking about.

But honestly, sending them on real soldier field missions would be the only way to even begin to justify the existence of genuine ninjas in our modern world.

Unless there's an entire hidden ninja society in Japan we know nothing about, still being hired to assasin people in the smaller vilages without people protecting themselves with.. I don't know, govermental protection or guns?

These kind of ninjas are just another word for "Soldiers."

Warriors, soldiers.. it's the same thing, and that's what Splinter and Shredder are, or were as it is. Shredder is the "genneral." of his own new little ninja army.

So this show decided to actually go ahead and justify ninjas in our modern world by saying. "yeah, they were soldiers." .. only makes sense in my ears, we are at 2012 now you know, which means Hamato fleed Japan back in 1997, which is still a pretty modern global world. Lots of stuff has happened since the eighties ya know, we aren't so disconnected with the world any-more, and we have to take a leap of faith to say. "Oh yeah, Japan totally still have ninja clans, absolutely!" ... that's a fantasy setting at the very least.

You know what I find more intriquing about that picture? The way Yoshi is holding Saki, with the friendly arm around his shoulder and both smiling.
If that is not proof that they were buddies and actually saved each other a couple of times, I don't know what is, and that's pretty cool.

[NinjaPug]

From one of the writers:

In our minds, Splinter and Shredder took on their nicknames before their big feud and Hamato Yoshi’s transformation. These were their nicknames within their ninja clans, possibly even dating back to their military days hinted at in the photograph. For the sake of new and younger viewers, this just seemed easier than having to explain that Splinter used to be Hamato Yoshi every time we hear Shredder talking about him, etc. Two guys always talking about each other using different names than everyone else calls them because they don’t know about each other’s new names yet seemed needlessly complex.

[ToTheNines]

Who said that? Kenny?

[NinjaPug]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Who said that? Kenny?

Yes, on his Tumblr page.

[Jester]

I don't think they're giving kids enough credit.

But it's good to know the "explanation" is what most of us figured: Pre-mutation, possibly military nicknames.

Not I'm flashing back to Full Metal Jacket....

[CyberCubed]

I wish they would mention this in the show though to make it canon and for people who don't read forums

[snake]

Originally Posted by Jester

I don't think they're giving kids enough credit.

But it's good to know the "explanation" is what most of us figured: Pre-mutation, possibly military nicknames.

Not I'm flashing back to Full Metal Jacket....

Shredder would rip people to shreds
And splinter would get a piece of wood, rub it all over the guy and he would get splinters.
EXPLAINED

[BubblyShell22]

I think they just figured showing the photograph would give us a clue that they were in the military together. In either case, that's the way I figured it anyway that they had their names in the military and just kept them as such. Then when Splinter mutated, he took on the name of Splinter since he's no longer Yoshi.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I wish they would mention this in the show though to make it canon and for people who don't read forums

It's called subtlety. They don't have to spell EVERYTHING out, man.

Though that seems to contradict the, "Kid's won't get if Shredder always calls Splinter "Yoshi." logic. If you're going to subtly "explain" that Shredder and Splinter were old army buddies with only the barest of visual cues, than I'm sure they can figure Shredder=Saki and Splinter=Yoshi.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by Jester

It's called subtlety. They don't have to spell EVERYTHING out, man.

It might also be called "patience". I can see them explaining it before season 1 is through

[Jester]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

It might also be called "patience". I can see them explaining it before season 1 is through

Yeah, that too...

[Machias Banshee]

I'm so glad they finally confirmed this! I'm curious if they would have been in the normal ranks of the infantry, or if their Clan standings allowed them to be higher ranked, like officers or something..

I can't wait to see the flashbacks for those scenes..

[Xav]

Originally Posted by Jester

Though that seems to contradict the, "Kid's won't get if Shredder always calls Splinter "Yoshi." logic. If you're going to subtly "explain" that Shredder and Splinter were old army buddies with only the barest of visual cues, than I'm sure they can figure Shredder=Saki and Splinter=Yoshi.

Didn't Shredder used to call Splinter Hamato Yoshi in the Fred Wolf toon?

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by Xav

Didn't Shredder used to call Splinter Hamato Yoshi in the Fred Wolf toon?

i think that is much later in the show

[Donatello19]

But why would Splinter/Shredder use the names that their arch enemy gave them?

[Xav]

Originally Posted by Candy Kappa

i think that is much later in the show

He did it in the first episode.

[snake]

It's settled guys
http://kennybloggerly.tumblr.com/pos...-name-splinter
Here's the link to his tumblr

[Irishmile]

Japan hasnt technically had a legit military for nearly 70 years...