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Old 02-15-2013, 12:08 PM   #81
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this may be a stupid question but why i s Ben Bates leaving?????
Scheduling reasons, apparently. He is (thankfully, in my opinion) penciling one fourth of the Mega Man / Sonic the Hedgehog crossover that's scheduled for April.
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Old 02-15-2013, 12:14 PM   #82
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Scheduling reasons, apparently. He is (thankfully, in my opinion) penciling one fourth of the Mega Man / Sonic the Hedgehog crossover that's scheduled for April.
Mega Man meets Sonic the Hedgehog? Who wouldn't walk away from a TMNT book for that...
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Old 02-15-2013, 12:41 PM   #83
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While I think you're probably right, I would love it, and be most impressed, if The Shredder could legitimately find a way to convince Leo that his side is right, with some kind of ideological persuasion.

I could see him using the Slash incident as "proof" that the strong survive in this world. "Did not you yourself use your strength to strike down an enemy when your life was threatened?" You know, that sort of thing. Seems fitting to outside Leo with ideology too. We'll see. IDW has proven before that they think these things through.
I think that we should also account for the whole 'mental instability' thing that Baxter mentioned a while back when he was talking with general Krang.

In his oneshot, at least to me, Leo came across as a bit unstable at best. He kept having all these flashbacks that threw him off constantly. So it wouldn't be too crazy to assume that due to this fact he might not be thinking straight. Also, in this continuity he is clashing heads with don constantly, as well as the occasional hostility towards raph. So, basically, he is involved in a lot of conflict with his family. That, I think, is already starting to pile up and may be what ends up overwhelming his already unstable mind.

Another thing to consider is the current series, Secret History of the Foot Clan. In issue #1, Leo clearly stated that he wished to learn more about the foot. Could it be that, in his quest for knowledge, the mysterious book that is featured in that story ends up turning him?

There are a lot of ways to look at this. It may just turn out to be a typical infiltration tactic, or maybe something else. Only time will tell.... how long till may?
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Old 02-15-2013, 01:14 PM   #84
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Yeah my only problem with this art is the stylized bandanas. I wish he would just draw all the bandanas looking normal.
this is my only quip with his style. everything else i love. i mentioned it to him that while i love his work, i really didn't care for the stylized masks. they already have their own identities...and mask colors, so it seemed purposeless to have individual style masks.
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Old 02-15-2013, 01:15 PM   #85
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Oh good. We get to keep the derpy looking batman masks ;p
Someone should really tell him about it. Those bandanas are just silly, it seems no one like them here. Am I wrong?

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In issue #1, Leo clearly stated that he wished to learn more about the foot. Could it be that, in his quest for knowledge, the mysterious book that is featured in that story ends up turning him?
Interesting. After all we still don't know WHY that book is so important. What does it contain? There's a variant cover by Ross Campbell on which we see the Turtles and the Foot fighting for the book. Why they both want it?

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Old 02-15-2013, 01:24 PM   #86
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Someone should really tell him about it. Those bandanas are just silly, it seems no one like them here. Am I wrong?
I like them, but he has so be careful with them. Leo's looked like he was at a masquerade ball on page 6 or 7 of Foot Clan #1. But normally they look pretty cool, especially Raph's.
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Old 02-15-2013, 01:43 PM   #87
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the stylized/differently-shaped masks are awesome, you guys!!!! come on!!
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Old 02-15-2013, 01:44 PM   #88
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I like them, but he has so be careful with them. Leo's looked like he was at a masquerade ball on page 6 or 7 of Foot Clan #1. But normally they look pretty cool, especially Raph's.
Raph's bandana looks badass and Leo's is great too. But mikey's, and especially donnie's, look kind of dorkish...
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Old 02-15-2013, 02:05 PM   #89
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the stylized/differently-shaped masks are awesome, you guys!!!! come on!!
It would be more awesome if they were all red.

I would love to see the IDW Turtles adopt the red again for a few issues, and their brother leaving the family would have been a perfect moment for them to once again take one one color to signify the broken family again (even thought it was "Raph's color").

Say, someone here should do a quick shoop showing Mateus's Turtles with red bandannas!
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Maybe when Leo joins the Foot, they'll all wear blue?
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Old 02-15-2013, 02:07 PM   #91
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i am so excited about this..
im ready to see what happens,and how it all goes down
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Old 02-15-2013, 02:14 PM   #92
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Maybe when Leo joins the Foot, they'll all wear blue?
I was deliberately trying not to say that

I'd like to see all black for a stint, though.
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Old 02-15-2013, 02:55 PM   #93
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4kids City at War... I can't even sit through it. Totally half-assed half-hearted "attempt". I honestly wish they'd never even tried doing it.

I was literally shocked to see Peter's season 2 and CaW production notes from his blog. He put up like zero fuss about it.
He actually did though, he wanted the Foot broken up into different factions. He also didn't like the idea of Karai being a pawn of the Shredder.
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Old 02-15-2013, 04:42 PM   #94
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Maybe when Leo joins the Foot, they'll all wear blue?
This was the funniest thing I read all day.
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Old 02-15-2013, 05:02 PM   #95
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By the sound of it, Leo won't be drugged or anything. But that's the only way I see this happening. But it will probably be as a double agent.
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Old 02-15-2013, 05:53 PM   #96
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He actually did though, he wanted the Foot broken up into different factions. He also didn't like the idea of Karai being a pawn of the Shredder.
Do you have a link of his comments on this? I'd like to see. Kind of wondering what his rationale would be to have the Foot broken up if, in this continuity, the Shredder never actually perished.
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Old 02-15-2013, 06:14 PM   #97
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I love Mateus' masks on the turtles. Hell, I love his turtles!!! When I picked up the first issue of SHoFC, that was one of the first things I noticed. I'm really excited to see where this series is going. My only gripe with IDW is, I wish that they would have some of the Mirage guys do a Cover or Micro. I would kill to see artists styles mixed in one issue. Maybe, one doing a cover the other doing the pages or pencils/inks combo, or colors. Campbell/Talbot, Kuhn/Lawson, or Berger/Duncan...Damn that would be good.

Sorry I just realized I went totally off topic..kind of.
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Old 02-15-2013, 07:38 PM   #98
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Not just in name, that article/interview with Bobby pretty much stated/cited other similarities other than "city" being in the name.
Like ... ? People forget that less than a half of "City at War" deals with the Turtles' interactions with the Foot, and even that's wrapped in a lot of moral ambiguity/end-game feelings that IDW isn't going to touch, certainly at this point, possibly ever. Also the plots just don't sound remotely similar?

Still looks good though. The IDW series needs more tension as a whole if it's going to live up to its action-serial format (which I feel has never quite been realized), and this seems like a step in the right direction.

That all sounded pretty negative, but I really am excited.
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Mega Man meets Sonic the Hedgehog? Who wouldn't walk away from a TMNT book for that...
I would.
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Scheduling reasons, apparently. He is (thankfully, in my opinion) penciling one fourth of the Mega Man / Sonic the Hedgehog crossover that's scheduled for April.
So Ben Bates will no longer be the main artist on the books? Correct??? Is he just gone for this arc?

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