The future for Baxter Stockman

[Shredded]

Pff, we all know this gig right? It all starts when you incidently broke the copy machine at work, next thing you know, you are working for an evil over-lord whom is ready to kill you if he has no use for you.

That happens all the time right?



Seriously, I is it the universial rule that Baxter Stockman can never ever catch a break?

Particularly this one, it's really a classy case of some-thing small just evolving and becoming bigger and bigger.

It was;
copy-machine
Tried to get revenge on place who fired me
Trash can
Bigger revenge
Bigger trash can
A thousand tiny kill robots, that got destroyed and ended in own abduction.
Working for/Is slave to a evil over-lord.

... Sewer-bunnies.


What the heck is next?

The next episode is called "TCRI"
That's also the place where Stockman used to work! .. it's also the insignia on the canisters with ooze. So that probably means the Krang owns the TCRI.
So was Baxters one of the scientists working there, helping the Krang without even knowing it himself? or just a part of the cover?

wauw.. the dude sure got himself into a mess bigger than any-one should be able to handle..

[CyberCubed]

I hope he breaks out onto his own. They already had him in his robot armor so I don't see that happening again.

[NinjaPug]

Is TCRI on the ooze canisters in this version? I don't remember seeing it on them. It is interesting that actual humans worked ar TCRI.

As for Baxter, I just hope he doesn't mutate into a fly. I hope he stays human.

[Shredded]

Originally Posted by NinjaPug

Is TCRI on the ooze canisters in this version? I don't remember seeing it on them. It is interesting that actual humans worked ar TCRI.

As for Baxter, I just hope he doesn't mutate into a fly. I hope he stays human.

I gotta admit there's a nasty sadistic side inside of me that wants to see how far they can abuse this character.

I mean seriously, this started in petty revenge plot. he was not even really evil or any-thing, he had just been screwed over and wanted satisfaction for that.

But the universal law apparently is that.
"If your name is Baxter Stockman, you aint going to catch a break, ever."

Even then, the 2k3 show he kind of had it coming, that way he kept spitting evil over-lords in the face.
I recently re-watched that show, and in his initial debut Stockman just had the most amazing line ever. As shredder said to him. "I don't tolerate failures." immediately Stockman responded. "Well, then you would have made a lousy scientist!" .... wauw.. I felt like standing up to salute him right there, just.. wauw..

This new Stockman how-ever, does not have the same audacity at all, he at least has the decency to be scared, and he was just an ordinary worker, presumably happy about his job.. but you know, universal law.

I am so fascinated with the abuse of Doctor Stockman, just.. fascinated.
And yeah.. I kind of think he is going to mutate.. it's presumable sort of hard selling action figures based on his current design.

[Pterobat]

Actually, I don't think they have to do much more with Nicktoons Baxter. I mean, they *can*, but I can easily see him continuing in the current role of a frightened but useful henchman who makes gizmos for Shredder and nobody blinking an eye.

I like Baxter Stockman rather a lot, but being a fly isn't important to his character or to his appeal. Like you said, the cartoon versions of Baxter just have terrible lives, and being a fly is just one way to do that.

If they are going to do something more with Nicktoons Baxter, I'd like for it to be something more original, something previous animated Stockmen haven't had done to them yet.

There's already one Baxter action figure in the can, and one Lego set--side characters in toylines usually don't get much more, so I can't see toy-selling being the justification for the first mutated Baxter since the 80s-90s.

[Shredded]

Originally Posted by Pterobat

Actually, I don't think they have to do much more with Nicktoons Baxter. I mean, they *can*, but I can easily see him continuing in the current role of a frightened but useful henchman who makes gizmos for Shredder and nobody blinking an eye.

I like Baxter Stockman rather a lot, but being a fly isn't important to his character or to his appeal. Like you said, the cartoon versions of Baxter just have terrible lives, and being a fly is just one way to do that.

If they are going to do something more with Nicktoons Baxter, I'd like for it to be something more original, something previous animated Stockmen haven't had done to them yet.

There's already one Baxter action figure in the can, and one Lego set--side characters in toylines usually don't get much more, so I can't see toy-selling being the justification for the first mutated Baxter since the 80s-90s.

Here's a thing though.. I can see you have eighties Stockman as Avatar so you might want to consider this one.

80's Stockmans final line, I think actually rings much stronger than any-one intended it to be.

Before Baxter falls into the dimensionally thingy, the turtles are asking him.
"why are you even doing this Stockman?"

And Stockman responds. "I forgot." .... wauw, two words, and yet so strong.

Do you think that maybe, they are building this Stockman up to a similar situation and a similar climax?
The thing about him in this show is that trouble just escalates around him, without him doing much. It litterately was copy machine and trash can, some-how turning into alien robots and evil over lord.

It all just started.. with a trash can! but, in the great scheme of things, all-ready now, the trash-can seems rather un-important doesn't it? and if Stockman moves even further into trouble, it just becomes more and more un-important, it would only make sense if he actually forgot about it because he is so caught up in every-thing else.
And then some-one will ask the question. "why?" and he has to answer. "I don't know, and if I ever did, I forgot."

And.. I would really like that, I would like for it to turn that direction.
Moment of self-realisation.

Again, I have trouble seeing this Stockman as evil in any way.
No he is not a hero, and he is not self-sacrifising or caring or any-thing, but he is not really that evil.
I could also see him turning from Shredder and act as his own agent, Stockman is not loyal to Shredder, he is not there of own free will, he is not even gaining any-thing (other than being kept alive.) He never wanted to be there, he is there by force not choice, so he has no loyalty.

Also.. you know what could be awesome..
An episode where Stockman and Donatello is captured in some sort of high tech basement together, and has to work together to get out. Am I the only one wanting to see that?

[chrisdude]

The canister's don't have any text on them in the Nick series.

But we know Baxter worked for TCRI, and now works for Shredder. And Baxter has used Kraang technology, catching Shredder's interest. So if the Kraang DO run TCRI, I hope this is the episode where Shredder and the Kraang finally meet.

[meta ray mek]

Yeah, there's... really not much more they can do with Baxter.

I guess if they wanted to go in a completely different direction, they could theoretically have this Baxter "wake up" and experiences a moment where he realizes just how far in over his head he really is. Whether or not he actually tries to change is another story.

Or maybe they'll just keep him in that side character role and not really develop him more beyond what we've been shown already. I mean, Shredder's gotta have a tech person and all that. =V

[NinjaMan]

The writers said we are getting a memorable mutant this season from the old show. My money is on fly Baxter

[Donatello19]

Since Playmates has already made a figure of him in his current state, I doubt he will mutate.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Donatello19

Since Playmates has already made a figure of him in his current state, I doubt he will mutate.

I don't see why making a figure of him in a robot armor body would prevent them from making another figure of him later.

[chrisdude]

Are there still any figures of characters that we haven't seen in the show? I don't follow the toy shows or whatever, but there will surely be season 2 and 3 characters that don't have toys yet.

[RaphAndDonnie]

Originally Posted by meta ray mek

Yeah, there's... really not much more they can do with Baxter.

I guess if they wanted to go in a completely different direction, they could theoretically have this Baxter "wake up" and experiences a moment where he realizes just how far in over his head he really is. Whether or not he actually tries to change is another story.

Or maybe they'll just keep him in that side character role and not really develop him more beyond what we've been shown already. I mean, Shredder's gotta have a tech person and all that. =V

I do have to admit, seeing Baxter have a moment of realization, like "How did I get in this mess" somewhere down the line would be an interesting plot twist. Honestly Stockman has never interested me, as a character, except for the 2k3 version and (quite possibly) this version.

[Shark_Blade]

Originally Posted by NinjaMan

The writers said we are getting a memorable mutant this season from the old show. My money is on fly Baxter

I'd be interested to see this too.

Originally Posted by chrisdude

Are there still any figures of characters that we haven't seen in the show? I don't follow the toy shows or whatever, but there will surely be season 2 and 3 characters that don't have toys yet.

Karai.

[Pterobat]

Shredded, Baxter Stockman has never in any form been just an innocent victim. Sure, he gets messed up with in big ways, but he still has an evil side.

I find it hard even to get broken up over "Revenge of the Fly", when all of that junk was his own damn fault. Even stuff like "Insane in the Membrane" doesn't absolve Stockman of all the evil he's done.

Therefore, I've got no interest in the Nick show trying some kind of do-over that wrings the pathos out of Baxter's situation, as a fly or not. It'd be a lie to treat him as innocent even at this point, when Nick Baxter attacked his old office and tried to rob things.

Besides, the Nick series is too comedic to go in that direction anyway. You want a serious exploration of how terrible Baxter Stockman's life can get, the
4Kids version was great at that.

[Justin]

Baxter Stockman has always been a character who's fascinated me, in just how a man will stoop so low and get very canned along the way.

[CyberCubed]

Baxter is at his best when he shows that he's smarter than everyone else, especially Shredder.

No matter how low Baxter can go he can always bounce back.

[Donatello19]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I don't see why making a figure of him in a robot armor body would prevent them from making another figure of him later.

Because if he was going to mutate, they would just make a figure of his mutated form, not his human AND mutated form, like how they didn't make Chris Bradford and Xever figures. I could be wrong, but it's my prediction.

[TheCanadiandrome]

Hopefully this Baxter fairs better than previous versions

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Donatello19

Because if he was going to mutate, they would just make a figure of his mutated form, not his human AND mutated form, like how they didn't make Chris Bradford and Xever figures. I could be wrong, but it's my prediction.

They made him in a huge robot body. You'd have a point if they just made a human figure in his pink sweatshirt.