Shredder seems a bit TOO obsessed with destroying Splinter.

gzilla46 · 02-21-2013, 08:49 PM

I know I said this in another thread, but now I want to go into bigger detail now. Shredder wants to destroy Splinter, but he seems to be too obsessed with it. I mean, it's to the point he neglects everything else. Like this:

Bradford: Help, I'm a mutant. Not only that, brains in robot suits are running around the city

Shredder: *throwing darts at poster with Splinter on it* Yeah that's nice.

I mean, while the other Shredders DID want to destroy Splinter and the Turtles, he had other motives, like world domination. I mean, imagine if a T-Rex showed up and ate Karai and all his henchmen. He'd probably ignore it for his goal of killing Splinter.

If he DID accomplish his goal, what would they do after that?

Scene:

Shredder: AT LAST! I FINALLY KILLED SPLINTER! HAHAHAHA!!!

Dogpound: So, what do we do now, master?

Shredder: I don't know. Wanna see a movie and then go to Pizza Hut for lunch or something?

DogPound: You serious?

Shredder: Yeah. The new Die Hard Movie just came out. It looks good.

Dogpound: YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING ME? THAT WAS THE ONLY PART OF YOUR PLAN?!?!

Shredder: Yeah.

Dogpound: YOU'RE NOT GOING TO TRY TO CONQUER EARTH OR HOLD THE MAYOR RANSOM? THAT WAS IT?!

Shredder: Come on man. I mean, where would we get the technology to rule the world? Too much work. Now how about that movie?

DogPound: Look, moron, I won't even be able to set foot in that theater. I'm a dog-mutant for crying out loud. The military would show up to capture me as soon as I enter the movie theater.

Shredder: Oh.

Do you think Shredder needs to tone down his obsession a little and think about taking over Earth?

*Donatello19* · 02-21-2013, 08:51 PM

Seriously? This needed a whole thread? Also, you made Shredder sound like OT Shredder.

gzilla46 · 02-21-2013, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Donatello19

Seriously? This needed a whole thread? Also, you made Shredder sound like OT Shredder.

This was before I saw that response of yours.

Plus, I thought that cutscene I made would be funny.

*Donatello19* · 02-21-2013, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by gzilla46

This was before I saw that response of yours.

Plus, I thought that cutscene I made would be funny.

Oh. Never mind to what I said then.

It was funny, but it's just the new Shredder is so dark and serious and to do those things would be out of character for him.

gzilla46 · 02-21-2013, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Donatello19

Oh. Never mind to what I said then.

It was funny, but it's just the new Shredder is so dark and serious and to do those things would be out of character for him.

Even darker than that of 2003?

What do you think he would do after he finally accomplished his goal?

Plus, what does OT Shredder mean?

*Donatello19* · 02-21-2013, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by gzilla46

Even darker than that of 2003?

What do you think he would do after he finally accomplished his goal?

Again, I made this before I saw those responses.

Plus, what does OT Shredder mean?

MUCH darker than 2003.

I dunno, go after the turtles, and after that, go back to Japan and continue to lead the Foot Clan.

OT Shredder means the Shredder form the original 1987 cartoon series. "OT" means "Old Toon" or "Original Toon" by the way.

gzilla46 · 02-21-2013, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Donatello19

MUCH darker than 2003.

That's a HUGE shock. I thought NO SHREDDER was darker than that of the 2003. He used to kick the living snot out of the Turtles and had that awesome voice. Let's not forget, HE CAN WALK THROUGH FIRE!

*snake* · 02-21-2013, 09:02 PM

Heeeee can
Kill the turtles
Find out more about the kraang
Take over the world
Train karai
Kill stuff
Help the kraang
Do experiments on animals like a rhino and a warthog ( hint, hint)

Probably more
Anyways, I'm saying this thread will get grinded in the disentigrator unit ( God, we have been feeding that thing lately!)

*Shark_Blade* · 02-21-2013, 09:05 PM

Those are all in your head and sounds like a fan fiction. Shredder never played darts whilst talking to Rad Brad.

Overall, this has nothing to do with Nick's TMNT. Mods, please close this thread.

*ToTheNines* · 02-21-2013, 09:07 PM

Good thread, I say.

You have to consider that Shredder has lived these past 20 years under the assumption that Yoshi was dead. Learning that he survived the fire obviously woke something up inside of him. Before all this, The Foot was probably a force to be reckoned with in Japan.

Also we're only seeing bits and pieces of Shredder.

gzilla46 · 02-21-2013, 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Those are all in your head and sounds like a fan fiction. Shredder never played darts whilst talking to Rad Brad.

Overall, this has nothing to do with Nick's TMNT. Mods, please close this thread.

I know. I made them up for the sake of comedy and to exaggerate that he can get a bit obsessed with his goal to the point of neglecting other things.

gzilla46 · 02-21-2013, 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by ToTheNines

Good thread, I say.

You have to consider that Shredder has lived these past 20 years under the assumption that Yoshi was dead. Learning that he survived the fire obviously woke something up inside of him. Before all this, The Foot was probably a force to be reckoned with in Japan.

Also we're only seeing bits and pieces of Shredder.

I don't know why they don't use him as much as the Kraang. Hope he fights more in Season 2.

*NinjaMan* · 02-21-2013, 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by gzilla46

I don't know why they don't use him as much as the Kraang. Hope he fights more in Season 2.

The way they are handling him reminds me of how the Superman animated series handled Darkseid. They didn't show him much, but when he did, crap really hit the fan and people got hurt. They also seem to be handling him in a similar way the Teen Titans used Slade (Deathstroke) in the animated series. Gradually showing him and giving him more exposure over time.

*Lethal Lullaby* · 02-21-2013, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by gzilla46

I don't know why they don't use him as much as the Kraang. Hope he fights more in Season 2.

I hope so too. And maybe. Just maybe. He'll eventually tone down his vendetta with Splinter just a teeny bit, but I guess we gotta wait and see.

Atren · 02-22-2013, 01:26 AM

I prefer Shredder not planning on taking over earth and things like that. I am bit tired how everything must be so grandiose in scope.

Konchadunga · 02-22-2013, 03:38 AM

Where is it written that Shredder has to be the Big Bad and have world domination plans? He wasn't in the Mirage series and wasn't in the movies. Yeah; the Turtles eventually tend to get involved in Earth-changing events, but at the time when they're just four guys living underneath New York trying to avoid detection, the world being in trouble is not necessary to give them grief. If Shredder is just conspiring against them as opposed to the world, so what? That doesn't make him less dangerous to them.

I think this new Shredder has a chance to be more of a raw, sneaky martial artist than the past cartoons'. They all had bloated technological weapons to do their job for them, but this Shredder could just be a straight badass combatant.

The only problem is that, perforce of having to tone down from the Mirage origin story, Shredder doesn't seem to have much reason to be angry to the point of being obsessed. Yet obviously something happened to make him that way.

Shredded · 02-22-2013, 03:55 AM

I honestly think it's a bit refreshing this Shredder is not out to take over the world.

And, I think it's the very point of the character that he is so obsessed about Splinter that he can't see any-thing else.

He is caught in his own obsession. Krangs and so on has no interest to him, as long as they don't interfered with his own plans, or isn't useful.

I also think he is the guy whom kind of is like.

"Things are going to be just as I said they will be, nothing else is tolerable. I say Bradford becomes best martial arts exspert in NYC, Bradford will be best martial arts exspert in the NYC
I say I am the strongest ninja in Japan, I am the strongest ninja in Japan.
And I say that Splinters dies so Splinter will die!"

I also imagine thinking like that is what drove him to act so drastically towards Tang-shen.

"I say Tang-shen shall be my wife, she will be my wife!"

And then it didn't happen, it was a thing, for ones, that Shredder couldn't have, not knowing how to deal with it, we push the blame on some-one else, Hamato Yoshi.
So yeah, he has to die.

*Candy Kappa* · 02-22-2013, 04:09 AM

Oroku Saki just realized that the guy who he probably hold responsible for the scarring of his face is alive, no freaking d'uh he is obsessed.

*TheSkeletonMan939* · 02-22-2013, 05:30 AM

Of course he's obsessed. Splinter took out his right eye.

When he kills Splinter, he's gonna just go back to Japan and do whatever.

And you put too much effort into that 'scene' of yours. You didn't need to it to make your point.

*Candy Kappa* · 02-22-2013, 06:14 AM

and Shredder isn't interesting in taking over the world, he's not a cartoonish villain just because he is in a cartoon

02-21-2013, 08:49 PM	#1
gzilla46 Thug Join Date: May 2012 Location: NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS! Posts: 91	Shredder seems a bit TOO obsessed with destroying Splinter. I know I said this in another thread, but now I want to go into bigger detail now. Shredder wants to destroy Splinter, but he seems to be too obsessed with it. I mean, it's to the point he neglects everything else. Like this: Bradford: Help, I'm a mutant. Not only that, brains in robot suits are running around the city Shredder: throwing darts at poster with Splinter on it Yeah that's nice. I mean, while the other Shredders DID want to destroy Splinter and the Turtles, he had other motives, like world domination. I mean, imagine if a T-Rex showed up and ate Karai and all his henchmen. He'd probably ignore it for his goal of killing Splinter. If he DID accomplish his goal, what would they do after that? Scene: Shredder: AT LAST! I FINALLY KILLED SPLINTER! HAHAHAHA!!! Dogpound: So, what do we do now, master? Shredder: I don't know. Wanna see a movie and then go to Pizza Hut for lunch or something? DogPound: You serious? Shredder: Yeah. The new Die Hard Movie just came out. It looks good. Dogpound: YOU GOT TO BE KIDDING ME? THAT WAS THE ONLY PART OF YOUR PLAN?!?! Shredder: Yeah. Dogpound: YOU'RE NOT GOING TO TRY TO CONQUER EARTH OR HOLD THE MAYOR RANSOM? THAT WAS IT?! Shredder: Come on man. I mean, where would we get the technology to rule the world? Too much work. Now how about that movie? DogPound: Look, moron, I won't even be able to set foot in that theater. I'm a dog-mutant for crying out loud. The military would show up to capture me as soon as I enter the movie theater. Shredder: Oh. Do you think Shredder needs to tone down his obsession a little and think about taking over Earth?

02-22-2013, 03:38 AM	#16
Konchadunga Stone Warrior Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Southern California Posts: 912	Where is it written that Shredder has to be the Big Bad and have world domination plans? He wasn't in the Mirage series and wasn't in the movies. Yeah; the Turtles eventually tend to get involved in Earth-changing events, but at the time when they're just four guys living underneath New York trying to avoid detection, the world being in trouble is not necessary to give them grief. If Shredder is just conspiring against them as opposed to the world, so what? That doesn't make him less dangerous to them. I think this new Shredder has a chance to be more of a raw, sneaky martial artist than the past cartoons'. They all had bloated technological weapons to do their job for them, but this Shredder could just be a straight badass combatant. The only problem is that, perforce of having to tone down from the Mirage origin story, Shredder doesn't seem to have much reason to be angry to the point of being obsessed. Yet obviously something happened to make him that way. __________________

02-22-2013, 04:09 AM	#18
Candy Kappa The Agenda of Existing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vikingland Posts: 14,596	Oroku Saki just realized that the guy who he probably hold responsible for the scarring of his face is alive, no freaking d'uh he is obsessed. __________________ devianArt Instagram Youtube Tumblr Art Blog Patreon

02-22-2013, 06:14 AM	#20
Candy Kappa The Agenda of Existing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vikingland Posts: 14,596	and Shredder isn't interesting in taking over the world, he's not a cartoonish villain just because he is in a cartoon __________________ devianArt Instagram Youtube Tumblr Art Blog Patreon

02-21-2013, 08:51 PM	#2
Donatello19 Merchandise Maniac Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: New York Posts: 5,919	Seriously? This needed a whole thread? Also, you made Shredder sound like OT Shredder.

02-21-2013, 09:02 PM	#8
snake Disgusting Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Outer Heaven Posts: 12,231	Heeeee can Kill the turtles Find out more about the kraang Take over the world Train karai Kill stuff Help the kraang Do experiments on animals like a rhino and a warthog ( hint, hint) Probably more Anyways, I'm saying this thread will get grinded in the disentigrator unit ( God, we have been feeding that thing lately!)

02-21-2013, 09:05 PM	#9
Shark_Blade Emperor Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,909	Those are all in your head and sounds like a fan fiction. Shredder never played darts whilst talking to Rad Brad. Overall, this has nothing to do with Nick's TMNT. Mods, please close this thread.

02-21-2013, 09:07 PM	#10
ToTheNines Col. Stinkmeaner Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 19,359	Good thread, I say. You have to consider that Shredder has lived these past 20 years under the assumption that Yoshi was dead. Learning that he survived the fire obviously woke something up inside of him. Before all this, The Foot was probably a force to be reckoned with in Japan. Also we're only seeing bits and pieces of Shredder.

02-22-2013, 01:26 AM	#15
Atren Random Punk Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Europe Posts: 39	I prefer Shredder not planning on taking over earth and things like that. I am bit tired how everything must be so grandiose in scope.

02-22-2013, 03:55 AM	#17
Shredded Foot Soldier Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 228	I honestly think it's a bit refreshing this Shredder is not out to take over the world. And, I think it's the very point of the character that he is so obsessed about Splinter that he can't see any-thing else. He is caught in his own obsession. Krangs and so on has no interest to him, as long as they don't interfered with his own plans, or isn't useful. I also think he is the guy whom kind of is like. "Things are going to be just as I said they will be, nothing else is tolerable. I say Bradford becomes best martial arts exspert in NYC, Bradford will be best martial arts exspert in the NYC I say I am the strongest ninja in Japan, I am the strongest ninja in Japan. And I say that Splinters dies so Splinter will die!" I also imagine thinking like that is what drove him to act so drastically towards Tang-shen. "I say Tang-shen shall be my wife, she will be my wife!" And then it didn't happen, it was a thing, for ones, that Shredder couldn't have, not knowing how to deal with it, we push the blame on some-one else, Hamato Yoshi. So yeah, he has to die.