Kevin Eastman Talks Michael Bay Film

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by sykosis

I thought they cleared the air saying the Mutagen is alien, not that the Turtles themselves were aliens. In which case it's fairly true to the original story

They never cleared any air. There has never, ever been any response from any of TPTB -- Kevin included -- that has said, "No, they're not aliens in the film." Rather, they've danced around the question with "Well, there is some precedent for alien stuff, given the alien origin of the Utrom mutagen..." which is not a "No" by any means whatsoever. They could have very easily nipped the "OMG, the Turtles are aliens in this!" thing in the bud at many junctures but have very strategically opted not to... methinks because that's an aspect that's probably survived into the shooting script.

[chrisdude]

Originally Posted by sykosis

YELLOW!
Green if they weren't ripe yet. The ones in the trash? Brown

Wow. I really did do that

[zodiac brave]

Eastman's track record shows he's mos def a company man. he'll shill for whoever's signing the checks. he's gotten lucky with idw, but thats because he's supported by a whole staff of real talent over there. that also gets him cred. thing is, though...if idw had turned out crap, he'd prolly still be shilling the hell outta it. next mutation is proof that he, at the very least, is capable of saying something's good and cheering behind it at every moment, when in fact it is rather horrible. at this point, my positivity is waning and im really just expecting disappointment.

[hitmonkey]

I really wish I could put any stock into what Eastman says, but I can't. It's already been pointed out multiple times that he was the driving force behind The Next Mutation and Venus, and I also thought "Bodycount" was garbage. I'll always respect him for his huge role in fathering the Turtles, but he's really the TMNT equivalent of George Lucas at this point. Completely out of touch with the fanbase of his own creation.

[Luzmagica]

I think this is the most important part of that comment!!!!

Originally Posted by Colonel Schrader

".....It's been enjoyable and the IDW series is much the same, in that it's firmly rooted in "Turtles" history, but multiple "Turtles" universes."

So he is actually admiting "changes here and there" compatible with another TMNT universe (like IDW comics) for the Movie !!!!!!

I think its an important clue! We are going to find something absolutely new and never seeing before about TMNT origins in new Movie!!

[Shark_Blade]

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

although i like kevin.. he created the blasted thing and he's proved he STILL gets it with his IDW run.. He is the ultimate sales person...The folks running the show now don't have the best creative track record.

Remember, he was the one who said Next Mutation was the greatest thing Ever, and look how that turned out! i've said it before in a joking matter, but it's true.... "of course you like it, they pay your check!" ;o)

i have no doubt that leaked script is what they WHERE going to go with. some kind soul leaked it, the up roar happened, and now they are probably going to make a few changes.. but knowing the ego of Mr.Bay, probably not many.

If they listen to Kevin At all :Mr.Bay nods, pretends he's listening and thinks 'sure old man..boobs..explosions is where i'm going'...his soul purpose is to at least try and make sure they don't crap all over it like they did transformers...

You speak my mind.

[Colonel Schrader]

Yes they did clear the air saying the mutagen was of alien origin and not the turtles themselves. It was liebsman who said it, the interview was on youtube.

This reminds me of the time Transformers was coming out. Certain groups of fanboys were outraged over **** like Optimus Prime had flames on him & how they looked etc..there were death threats and all of that, but then the movie came out and went on to make billions and bring in a whole new set of fans to the series, I think it will be the same thing here. You will still have a weird set of fans that will hate, but it will bring in millions of new fans. You can't always please everyone!

You guys are hating on the movie based on some super old script that was tossed aside ages ago, a miss quote from Bay that was cleared up by liebsman. You have not seen anything yet! I have faith in the project. We need to see something first before we start judging, only after watching it will i say if the movie sucked or not.

As for Megan Foxes fans, trust me there are millions out there. There are far more Megan Fox forums & fansites out there than there are TMNT forums. There are ppl who will watch this movie just for her. i've seen loads of ppl say that Even at the transformers red carpet events, far more ppl were interested in Megan Fox than the movie itself.

As for what role she will play in the movie, yes i know she is April O'Neil, but we dont know if she is a news reporter, scientist, student or something else.. We dont know how much screen time she has. As long as the main focus is on the turtles and not her, im happy.

[Candy Kappa]

40 million likes on a facebook page don't make Megan Fox any better actor.

I have as low expectations as I can for this movie, then I'll be either not too disappointed or slightly impressed. it's what stance I have until we see an actual trailer.

Platinum Dunes makes okay movies at best, not good movies, just 'okay' at best.

The best thing as for now is the amount of money the movie will make on the popcorn movie goers, that will be used to make better things. Just like the TF franchise.

[Powder]

Originally Posted by Colonel Schrader

Yes they did clear the air saying the mutagen was of alien origin and not the turtles themselves. It was liebsman who said it, the interview was on youtube.

This reminds me of the time Transformers was coming out. Certain groups of fanboys were outraged over **** like Optimus Prime had flames on him & how they looked etc..there were death threats and all of that, but then the movie came out and went on to make billions and bring in a whole new set of fans to the series, I think it will be the same thing here. You will still have a weird set of fans that will hate, but it will bring in millions of new fans. You can't always please everyone!

You guys are hating on the movie based on some super old script that was tossed aside ages ago, a miss quote from Bay that was cleared up by liebsman. You have not seen anything yet! I have faith in the project. We need to see something first before we start judging, only after watching it will i say if the movie sucked or not.

As for Megan Foxes fans, trust me there are millions out there. There are far more Megan Fox forums & fansites out there than there are TMNT forums. There are ppl who will watch this movie just for her. i've seen loads of ppl say that Even at the transformers red carpet events, far more ppl were interested in Megan Fox than the movie itself.

As for what role she will play in the movie, yes i know she is April O'Neil, but we dont know if she is a news reporter, scientist, student or something else.. We dont know how much screen time she has. As long as the main focus is on the turtles and not her, im happy.

If you're trying to make some sort of point against my argument, you clearly failed to read my post properly. You're just repeating yourself. Who the hell gives a God damn about Megan Fox's fanbase? Not me. We're talking about direct quotes here, that these guys are doing the film for us. You yourself have just proved my point, THEY'RE NOT DOING THIS FILM FOR US. It's for casuals & the other brain-dead minions of the world who're drawn out of their caves to see explosions and cheap broads who've gone under the knife a few too many times.

You sound like a damn fanboy yourself, ranting and raving about having confidence in this production team, how you were in this same position when Transformers was in the works. You're just a hypocritical Baytard as far as I can tell... & for Christ's sake, you're named after that ridiculous excuse for an interpretation of Shredder. Get some credibility.

"Fanboy" rage has nothing to do with the film being popular. You're acting like they were mad and then somehow 'proved wrong' because a bunch of vagrants paid to see the film. Those people don't give a flying frappuccino about the integrity of that franchise, they just wanted to be entertained. They're not real Transformers fans. Those films don't honor the Transformers, they bastardize them. That doesn't mean they were unsuccessful, it just means the fans were RIGHT to feel that way.

This whole bit about people being more interested in Megan than the actual film, IS MY POINT. That is the problem, pal. She takes away from the importance of the turtles. She's a distraction. People will be too focused on her. It doesn't matter what profession this version of April has, because she's Megan Fox. Nonredeemable. & you'd be a dense fool to think she's not going to get an ass-load of screen time. She'll probably be the star of the film.

You tell me I'm not supposed to be frustrated at what has been PROVEN TRUTH, while you sit there having total faith in the UNKNOWN. I think we know who's better set their expectations here...

[Colonel Schrader]

@Powder what US do you keep talking about? there is no US when it comes to TMNT fans, it's a wide range of ppl with different tolerance levels... some can accept change some cannot.. some like the original movies, some do not.. just like some ppl hate the Nick toon.
there is always going to be a group of ppl that will hate on something or the other, like with the new tmnt game, some ppl like the look of the turtles, some do not.. from what they have said they are trying to please most fans but still make a few changes, they can't please everyone.

and what proven truth do you have, other than Megan Fox is April? you know NOTHING other than that about the movie.. you haven't seen ****!

you guys just want to argue for the sake of arguing.. Kevin Eastman did an interview, i posted it here.. am done with this topic now.. when we actually see something or hear some legit news about the movie, then we will talk about it..

[Candy Kappa]

Originally Posted by Colonel Schrader

and what proven truth do you have, other than Megan Fox is April? you know NOTHING other than that about the movie.. you haven't seen ****!

We also know who is directing, who is writing, who is producing which company that will do the movie, what CG style they want. And the leaked supposedly scrapped script.

[gobo]

Originally Posted by grungethemovie

kevin is not the core-protection-nerd, that's peter, kevin is the wohoo-whatever-goes-rockstar

Originally Posted by Vegita-San

although i like kevin.. he created the blasted thing and he's proved he STILL gets it with his IDW run.. He is the ultimate sales person...The folks running the show now don't have the best creative track record.

Remember, he was the one who said Next Mutation was the greatest thing Ever, and look how that turned out! i've said it before in a joking matter, but it's true.... "of course you like it, they pay your check!" ;o)

i have no doubt that leaked script is what they WHERE going to go with. some kind soul leaked it, the up roar happened, and now they are probably going to make a few changes.. but knowing the ego of Mr.Bay, probably not many.

If they listen to Kevin At all :Mr.Bay nods, pretends he's listening and thinks 'sure old man..boobs..explosions is where i'm going'...his soul purpose is to at least try and make sure they don't crap all over it like they did transformers...

Originally Posted by hitmonkey

I really wish I could put any stock into what Eastman says, but I can't. It's already been pointed out multiple times that he was the driving force behind The Next Mutation and Venus, and I also thought "Bodycount" was garbage. I'll always respect him for his huge role in fathering the Turtles, but he's really the TMNT equivalent of George Lucas at this point. Completely out of touch with the fanbase of his own creation.

I regrettably have to agree.

[BubblyShell22]

I think the best we can do is wait and see what they come up with. I'm not having high hopes for this movie at all right now and until we hear more news about it, I'm just going to wait until we see a trailer to see how this goes.

I do like the fact that Kevin seems pleased with the new Nick show and that he's working on the comics again.

[Vi11AiN6]

Hey at least it will be better than TMNT: The next mutation

[The Stryker]

Good lord Powder sounds like a whining crying child. The movie was never going to be made for hardcore fans no matter what they said. That's the case for EVERY SINGLE ADAPTATION OF EVERYTHING EVER. Don't act like Transformers fans didn't turn out in droves to see every single one of those movies.

Now you're mad because you bought into that line. Please. Got any more death wishes for Megan Fox to throw out while you're at it? Hmm? Mr.Credibility? How about some more condescending comments about 'casuals' and how you're so much better than them because you've watched more children's cartoons and read more comic books!

This whole thing is ridiculous. It's Ninja Turtles! It's been a giant ploy to sell toys and make money since the original cartoon started. There was never any credibility to the franchise.

[chrisdude]

As goofy and shallow as the Transformers movies were, they did seem to create new fans. But I was never a huge Transformers fan. I didn't experience my favorite characters reduced to goofy caricatures who hump and piss on things.

But I'm sure everyone involved in the making of this film would love to make a "Transformers of TMNT."

I'm trying to get my mind ready for crude jokes and silly one-liners. And probably a scene of the turtles fight each other for a glimpse of April changing clothes.

[The Stryker]

Originally Posted by chrisdude

I'm trying to get my mind ready for crude jokes and silly one-liners.

I think all you need to do is watch TMNT 1-4 and you'll be ready.

[chrisdude]

Originally Posted by The Stryker

I think all you need to do is watch TMNT 1-4 and you'll be ready.

Touche.

I should say, trying to get my mind ready for crude jokes and silly one-liners to make up the entirety of the turtles' dialogue. As the Autobots lacked character development, personal struggle, subplots... They just showed up, fought, and made jokes.

[Powder]

I didn't care that this movie had super suck potential until they started throwing quotes like that around. If you're gonna make schlock, make schlock, but don't go saying you're doing it for us. That is my complaint. Hide me if you don't like it.

[The Stryker]

Originally Posted by Powder

I didn't care that this movie had super suck potential until they started throwing quotes like that around. If you're gonna make schlock, make schlock, but don't go saying you're doing it for us. That is my complaint. Hide me if you don't like it.

They say that with EVERY ADAPTATION.

But the fact is that if they actually did make it for "us" it wouldn't make much money. So they put that out there on the off-chance that somebody will bite.

The movie industry.....lying?! WHAAAAAT?