Official Episode Discussion #21: "Karai's Vendetta"

[Sleepingseeker]

Originally Posted by Donatello19

Me too, I actually felt really bad for her. I thought the turtles were going to jump in and defeat Karai at any moment.

Oh, and it was cool to see April using her fan. Did anyone else notice Splinter's clan symbol shining on Karai?

Spoiler:

FORESHADOWING

Yes, I thought for a moment that Karai was somehow going to recognize the symbol or something, but maybe not.

Still wondering how she's gonna react to finding out who she really is...would she harbor resentment at Splinter for never coming to find her, or would she be angry with Shredder for taking her? i'd imagine that Saki actually may have SAVED her from the fire...ever wonder how he got all burned up??? Maybe it's just my soft spot for bad guys, LOL

[METALHEAD]

it was pretty damn good.
they are really hinting april could be something thats not human!

my jaw drop when the sewer water hit her wirst.

i kept thinking "is she an alien?" dunno about robot. alien seems more logical to me.

what i noticed though is, April has don on her T-phone with lil hearts on it, strongly suggesting she may have feelings for him.

boy, the don/April fans are gonna love this, while TMNT fans will either be accepting of this, or get really piss about it.

i know some fans out there wont like the idea.

me? i find it cute. yet shocking that theres a slight chance of her accepting don's feelings and might return those feelings? who knows.

be really something to see a triangle when casey comes around.

alls i can say is, i really enjoyed the episode.

what made my jaw go wide open is when karai lost her concentration when april said she lost her mother.

leaving me to believe karai could be (i repeat COULD be) be splinter's daughter. --- which makes me wonder howleo's reaction would be when he'll find out about this. -- whole thing is just having me on the edge of my seat.

what april is,
what leo will think IF karai is the daughter of his master,
and the fact is --are they really gonna have don and april cannon?

this show, i swear, best tmnt show ever.

[Roseangelo]

There's already a discussion thread for this episode...

http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/showthread.php?t=42390

[METALHEAD]

well then, delete this thread if u can.

[METALHEAD]

it was pretty damn good.
they are really hinting april could be something thats not human!

my jaw drop when the sewer water hit her wirst.

i kept thinking "is she an alien?" dunno about robot. alien seems more logical to me.

what i noticed though is, April has don on her T-phone with lil hearts on it, strongly suggesting she may have feelings for him.

boy, the don/April fans are gonna love this, while TMNT fans will either be accepting of this, or get really piss about it.

i know some fans out there wont like the idea.

me? i find it cute. yet shocking that theres a slight chance of her accepting don's feelings and might return those feelings? who knows.

be really something to see a triangle when casey comes around.

alls i can say is, i really enjoyed the episode.

what made my jaw go wide open is when karai lost her concentration when april said she lost her mother.

leaving me to believe karai could be (i repeat COULD be) be splinter's daughter. --- which makes me wonder howleo's reaction would be when he'll find out about this. -- whole thing is just having me on the edge of my seat.

what april is,
what leo will think IF karai is the daughter of his master,
and the fact is --are they really gonna have don and april cannon?

this show, i swear, best tmnt show ever.

[TurtleTitan97]

Originally Posted by Raph's Girl

OMG...

Spoiler:

Karai FLAT OUT admited she was Miwa! Karai introduced herself to April saying her name was Harmony which is what the name Miwa translates out to!

Whoa, nice job catching that!

[Raph's Girl]

Originally Posted by METALHEAD

leaving me to believe karai could be (i repeat COULD be) be splinter's daughter.

Spoiler:

Karai basically admited to being Miwa when she introduced herself to April. She said her name was Harmony. The name Miwa litteraly translates as Harmony and Beauty.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miwa

[Donatello19]

^That's really interesting, I would've never guessed that. The guys working on this show are really sneaky

Anyway, it was cool to see Spike again, I don't think anyone mentioned that yet. My favorite line was when Donnie started shouting "My beautiful little princess is ok!" (or something along those lines) and Donnie asks April if it was muted, and she told him "let's just say it was" XD

[Raph's Girl]

Originally Posted by Donatello19

^That's really interesting, I would've never guessed that. The guys working on this show are really sneaky

Anyway, it was cool to see Spike again, I don't think anyone mentioned that yet. My favorite line was when Donnie started shouting "My beautiful little princess is ok!" (or something along those lines) and Donnie asks April if it was muted, and she told him "let's just say it was" XD

Not only did Spike show up again but so did a new (to us) episode of Space Heroes. "You loved that one didn't you?"

[Guitar_Raph]

What made this episode rock? A female motorcycle chase!

Mikey Moment; then he did the sound of a trombone. They could always use him for ZONK! cues for Let's Make A Deal (LOL)!

[zaktheneutrino]

I thought this episode was really good! It showed off some of what Splinter has taught April yet it also showed that she has much to learn. I am glad that Karai got the best of her considering Leo struggled previously while fighting Karai. I hate when shows have inexperienced characters defeat feared villains or at least hold their own.

For those who are saying that this episode basically did not serve a purpose, I feel that having April introduced to Karai is something very important. Especially if the Miwa guess is correct (great find with the harmony/miwa connection too!! ). Splinter has kind of taken April under his wing, almost as a father figure, and now the adopted daughter has potentially met her Sensei's true daughter. Not only that but with April not being affected by the Kraang water, when we finally find out what that means we will know when the Turtles first figured out that she was different by tracing that particular scene back to this episode. I am really hoping that she is half Neutrino or another explanation that does not necessarily make her some sort of robot. This show has been well written thus far and I hope that continues! I am guessing we will see a great cliffhanger to end the season.

[Martin]

Week after week this show is shaping out to be my favorite incarnation of the TMNT (outside of the comicbook world that is).

Something that impressed me about this ep was how mature it seemed. I mean, yes, from time to time the turtles would show up and lay down a few jokes to ease up the tension, but the whole Karai vs April thing? That was intense (especially when Karai just pummels April into the ground out of jealousy; the turtle soup thing was pretty awesome too).

[oldmanwinters]

Why in the world do fans even theorize that April is part robot?

What basis is there for that idea and how would that explain any of her "universal vibration" sensitivity or her immunity to the ill-effects of Dimension X water?

And while I'm at it with question asking, can anyone confirm for me whether April was able to retrieve Splinter's fan after the Karai fight?

[Raph's Girl]

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

And while I'm at it with question asking, can anyone confirm for me whether April was able to retrieve Splinter's fan after the Karai fight?

If she did retrieve the fan it was done offscreen.

[JTH]

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

And while I'm at it with question asking, can anyone confirm for me whether April was able to retrieve Splinter's fan after the Karai fight?

While we're at it with question asking, they showed that Donnie's feelings for April's saftey is starting to distract him during missions now.

Any chance this may be setting up his feelings for her getting them all in trouble in later episodes.

[LH]

Originally Posted by Raph's Girl

OMG...

Spoiler:

Karai FLAT OUT admited she was Miwa! Karai introduced herself to April saying her name was Harmony which is what the name Miwa translates out to!

You ma'am, deserve an award!

[BabyTurtles]

LOL Captain Ryan XDDDD

Crankshaw: The landing party is under attack by the Digestor! We have to save them!

Captain Ryan: If we keep bailing them out they will never learn.

Crankshaw:But this is there their first mission and they don’t even have weapons!

Captain Ryan: Well they better learn fast… *landing party member is eaten* Weren’t you in love with that one Doctor Mindstrong?

Dr. Mindstrong: I was Captain…..

Captain Ryan: Well then you both learned a lesson today

[n-zero]

Originally Posted by Raph's Girl

Spoiler:

Karai basically admited to being Miwa when she introduced herself to April. She said her name was Harmony. The name Miwa litteraly translates as Harmony and Beauty.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Miwa

Also, some of the early promotional materials for the series stated that Shredder had a daughter named "Miwa"

[Konchadunga]

Originally Posted by oldmanwinters

Why in the world do fans even theorize that April is part robot?

What basis is there for that idea and how would that explain any of her "universal vibration" sensitivity or her immunity to the ill-effects of Dimension X water?

And while I'm at it with question asking, can anyone confirm for me whether April was able to retrieve Splinter's fan after the Karai fight?

Probably this: http://tfwiki.net/wiki/Sari_Sumdac

[RaphAndDonnie]

Another great episode. Things are slowly coming together and it makes me anticipate the big reveal even more. I'm a little more convinced then before that April is...something. At this point it's pretty clear that's she's something that can survive in Dimension X. The April and Karai stuff was intense and it makes me kind of glad to see an episode not completely turtle based.