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Old 05-10-2013, 04:30 PM   #21
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City Fall is obviously going to have some nods to City at War. I'm just surprised we didn't get IDW's version of Return to New York before City Fall.

The Krang arc was basically IDW's version of the Turtles in space arc with Fugitoid sans the Triceratons.

I'm just wondering if the Second Time Around shop will be burned.
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Old 05-10-2013, 05:48 PM   #22
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I think this is just the problem for me.I feel we already have all the ORIGINAL adventures where these things happened.its fine to pay homage to some key moments yet I feel it is much more important to go to some very new and never before explored places..why not come up with something completely original and untried?you know?...with time this will just feel like food from yesterday instead of something fresh...together with the fact that idw is also GIVING us reprints of the original issues that are still so great, I cant understand why they work so hard on touching the old stuff everywhich way they can...when they could much better venture out and stretch their wings in some untried terrain...I mean they have proven they KNOW the personalities well enough...
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Old 05-10-2013, 05:49 PM   #23
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I think this is just the problem for me.I feel we already have all the ORIGINAL adventures where these things happened.its fine to pay homage to some key moments yet I feel it is much more important to go to some very new and never before explored places..why not come up with something completely original and untried?you know?...with time this will just feel like food from yesterday instead of something fresh...together with the fact that idw is also GIVING us reprints of the original issues that are still so great, I cant understand why they work so hard on touching the old stuff everywhich way they can...when they could much better venture out and stretch their wings in some untried terrain...I mean they have proven they KNOW the personalities well enough...
I think IDW is doing a fair amount of original material. Secret History Of The Foot Clan is proof of that. Plus, while City Fall may have nods to City At War, it's essentially a very different story. It's about the rise of the Shredder, rather than the repercussions of his downfall. We've never actually gotten a Shredder story like this in the comics, so it's pretty cool!

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City Fall is obviously going to have some nods to City at War. I'm just surprised we didn't get IDW's version of Return to New York before City Fall.

The Krang arc was basically IDW's version of the Turtles in space arc with Fugitoid sans the Triceratons.

I'm just wondering if the Second Time Around shop will be burned.
IDW certainly has homages and takes certain cues from Mirage, but it's not an IDW "version" of Mirage, so there's no reason to believe it will do every Mirage storyline. They are aware of our expectations based on what's come before, and am sure they are having a fun time toying with those expectations.
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Old 05-10-2013, 06:14 PM   #24
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I think IDW is doing a fair amount of original material. Secret History Of The Foot Clan is proof of that. Plus, while City Fall may have nods to City At War, it's essentially a very different story. It's about the rise of the Shredder, rather than the repercussions of his downfall. We've never actually gotten a Shredder story like this in the comics, so it's pretty cool!



IDW certainly has homages and takes certain cues from Mirage, but it's not an IDW "version" of Mirage, so there's no reason to believe it will do every Mirage storyline. They are aware of our expectations based on what's come before, and am sure they are having a fun time toying with those expectations.
you may be right...and its true that the basis of what this storyline is about is actually quite different...like I said in my first post Im gonna stay open and just read along.Im sure its gonna be fun.I think the advertisement for city fall is also very city at war like(maybe thats why I feel a little meh right now about it)..the line in the above picture just screamed 'when a city goes to war green turns to red'-copy out to me...
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Old 05-10-2013, 06:18 PM   #25
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I'm just surprised we didn't get IDW's version of Return to New York before City Fall..
Although, we will have Silent Partner with City Fall, but with Ralph being beaten up instead of Leo, like in the movie.
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...and with gang wars that leads to the uprising of Shredder, and mindcontrolled Leo on his side, and Casey almost killed, and Old Hob's gang, and Hun, and Savate ninjas, and Karai turning against shredder, and Rocksteady & Bebop.

Doesn't feels like City at War to me.
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Old 05-10-2013, 06:50 PM   #26
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While Karai may or may not leave Shredder's play what about Kitsune doing her own thing against Shredder's orders?

What is "Silent Partner",for those of us not well versed in the balck and white comics?
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Old 05-10-2013, 10:39 PM   #27
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While Karai may or may not leave Shredder's play what about Kitsune doing her own thing against Shredder's orders?

What is "Silent Partner",for those of us not well versed in the balck and white comics?
"Silent Partner" is the issue where Leonardo is ambushed and beaten by the Foot clan. The ending reveals the return of The Shredder (since issue #1). It was also the inspiration for a similar scene in the first TMNT movie, only the used Raph instead of Leo.
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Old 05-10-2013, 11:22 PM   #28
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IDW certainly has homages and takes certain cues from Mirage, but it's not an IDW "version" of Mirage, so there's no reason to believe it will do every Mirage storyline. They are aware of our expectations based on what's come before, and am sure they are having a fun time toying with those expectations.
They've been doing similar things to the way 4kids handled things. They're loosely taking Mirage material and putting their own spin on things. Which is fine because I like the comparisons.

From the way City Fall is advertised it seems like the villains are going to "win" this time. Shredder will finally be built up as the main threat and the Turtles will probably be defeated...I can see the Second Time Around shop being burned to the ground and Turtles escaping the city to a farm house like always.

This whole arc has a, "Shredder is back, the heroes are going to lose" vibe to it. I think we're in for a mix of City at War and Return to New York.
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Old 05-11-2013, 07:07 AM   #29
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"Silent Partner" is the issue where Leonardo is ambushed and beaten by the Foot clan. The ending reveals the return of The Shredder (since issue #1). It was also the inspiration for a similar scene in the first TMNT movie, only the used Raph instead of Leo.
Oh, okay. I actually have that one. I just didn't know the issue's story title. You could have just said the Leo one shot. Thanks for the clarification.

You know, people are talking about it being the opposite of City At War which it may draw cues from. I would like to see cues from The Forever War concept somewhere down the line if not in this storyline.
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Old 05-11-2013, 10:18 AM   #30
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"Silent Partner" is the issue where Leonardo is ambushed and beaten by the Foot clan. The ending reveals the return of The Shredder (since issue #1). It was also the inspiration for a similar scene in the first TMNT movie, only the used Raph instead of Leo.
how so?my books always told me the storys title was 'what comes around goes around....'
we're talking about mirage leonardo micro, right?
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Old 05-11-2013, 10:28 AM   #31
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So I see city fall paving the way to city at war. City fall sounds like it will focus on shredders rise to power by uniting all(or most) of the different factions. City fall will probably focus on the resistance to this, from Angel and Hob etc, and of course the whole Leo issue. So off in the distant future, when shredder dies(or appears to have) karai will inherit leadership of all the factions and they may not respect(or fear) her the way they did Saki. This causes them to fight against the foot for independence, in city at war. Wouldn't it be cool if was dead on?
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how so?my books always told me the storys title was 'what comes around goes around....'
we're talking about mirage leonardo micro, right?
You're right. 'Silent Partner' is the following issue, #10.
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Old 05-11-2013, 12:18 PM   #33
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how so?my books always told me the storys title was 'what comes around goes around....'
we're talking about mirage leonardo micro, right?
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You're right. 'Silent Partner' is the following issue, #10.
D'oh! You guys are right. Close enough...
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Old 05-12-2013, 08:55 PM   #34
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I cant wait for this uggh..... Tom Waltz why do you tease us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 05-12-2013, 10:00 PM   #35
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Also chiming in to say I can't wait for City Fall... Honestly, the nods to the Mirage stories are great but in the end, I really don't care whether it connects to the old continuity or not; the IDW series has been phenomenal and it can definitely stand on its own.
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Old 05-13-2013, 01:55 AM   #36
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With the way this series is going....I think IDW's City Fall could possibly surpass that of City at War in terms of Greatness! Can't wait.
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Old 05-13-2013, 07:33 AM   #37
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With the way this series is going....I think IDW's City Fall could possibly surpass that of City at War in terms of Greatness! Can't wait.
Everyone shut the **** up with the City Fall/at War comparisons!
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