Your "next gen" plans -- pre E3 2013 assessment

[Peanut]

Originally Posted by Jester

Not to say they aren't quality titles, but Nintendo's "exclusives" also have decades of nostalgia behind them.

That's true, but they didn't become nostalgic by being forgettable. It's because they're incredibly well made games, created by people that care and polished to perfection.

Also, look at a series like Mario. I'd like to hear one other example of ANYTHING, whether it be a movie series, a TV show, a series of books etc., that has somehow managed to not only stay relevant, but been able to change, adapt, innovate and reinvent itself time and time again over the course of decades and not only continue to garner critical and commercial success, but to be lauded as some of the greatest games ever created over multiple generations.

I don't know that anyone will ever be able to match Nintendo's quality output. Now or ever.

[Jester]

Well said. I know if I had to have a next gen console, I'd most definitely buy the Wii-U, because I love a good Mario game (among other originals), and Nintendo hasn't disappointed (so far as I can remember. Most crap Mario games were 3rd party games.)

[Cure]

Yeah, it's definitely not nostalgia. Going back to play 64 after playing Galaxies feels rooooooooough.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Peanut

I'd really like to hear a good lists of Sony's amazing exclusives. A list that doesn't include absolute sh*t like Killzone or dead horse franchises like Ratchet & Clank and God of War. Microsoft has almost no exclusives period, but the Sony exclusive stuff isn't exactly lighting the world on fire.

I honestly think the only platform with exclusives with a single damn is Nintendo.

I don't care for the majority of Sony's exclusives, but I'll take the Uncharted series, The Last of Us, God of War, Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank, etc. over Halo and Gears of War. And PS3 had Metal Gear Solid 4 which remains exclusive to this day.

And while some of those franchises have gone stale, both Halo and Gears have literally been run into the ground with the same tired sequels.

There really is no real reason to own an Xbox outside of a few obscure titles here and there.

[Cure]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I don't care for the majority of Sony's exclusives, but I'll take the Uncharted series, The Last of Us, God of War, Jak and Daxter, Ratchet and Clank, etc. over Halo and Gears of War. And PS3 had Metal Gear Solid 4 which remains exclusive to this day.

And while some of those franchises have gone stale, both Halo and Gears have literally been run into the ground with the same tired sequels.

There really is no real reason to own an Xbox outside of a few obscure titles here and there.

Last of Us isn't out yet! Don't be dumb! You're also not using "literally" correctly.

[Peanut]

So, same tired list then? I was hoping for something worth discussing. I've always tried to talk sustainable franchises, which I really don't think Sony has much of. The ones that could have lasted (God of War and Uncharted) were driven into the ground this gen.

If we're talking one off exclusives I honestly think the 360 was worth it for the XBLA exclusive stuff alone.

[LeoNerdo]

For at least the next 2 years I'm sticking with my PC/Wii U for console quality stuff. Maybe by then I'll be more inclined towards the XONE, but not if I can still play most of the same stuff on my PC.

[Peanut]

It's not a bad choice, considering some of the coolest stuff from this generation was typically third-party. My issue with that is my complete apathy towards keeping a PC up-to-date. I did it through the mid 00's, but dropped off over the last few years. I just can't be bothered to do it. Also, not being able to actually own games I pay for doesn't sit well with me.

[sdp]

I'm not even a big gamer but I think I'm done with console gaming, I'm building a gaming PC this generation since it will most of the time get the best version of the 'core' titles the PS4/XBone get. PS4 just doesn't interest me and the only exclusives that matters to me is the ICO franchise but I can live without it. Xbox has no franchises I care for, well they have rare but if they haven't done anything with them for the past 10+ years I don't see them doing it now, not to mention all the talent is long gone. And of course I have a Wii U for Nintendo titles.

[Zulithe]

I don't think wanting a Vita is insane, it depends all on your game preferences and play style. Wanting one over a 3DS or a PS4 may be, but it all depends on you. I have to ride a train to work and back each day, so my 3DS and Vita have a lot of value. I would not want to miss out on Soul Sacrifice, Persona 4 Golden or upcoming games like Dragon's Crown (giggle, giggle), Ys, Tearaway, FFX HD (yeah, more interested in replaying it on Vita than PS3), Valhalla Nights... the lineup is sparse but it has a steam of good stuff. I've also been a lot more impressed with the indie titles on the Vita than on the 3DS overall.

If you plan on getting a PS4 and/or have a PS+ membership, having a Vita makes great sense, and if you like JRPGs it's hard to justify not owning one if you have the money for it.

Anyone interested in the Vita should get one, as long as you've done your research and know what it has to offer and what it doesn't. I've had so many conversations with strangers over my Vita too... great convo starter :p

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Peanut

So, same tired list then? I was hoping for something worth discussing. I've always tried to talk sustainable franchises, which I really don't think Sony has much of. The ones that could have lasted (God of War and Uncharted) were driven into the ground this gen.

I honestly can't think of any franchise this gen that hasn't been run into the ground. Assassin's Creed, Dead Space, Resident Evil, Final Fantasy, Call of Duty, Ninja Gaiden, God of War, Ratchet, Halo, Gears, etc.

Even Bioshock had the totally pointless "Bioshock 2" which was nothing more than a filler game between the first and Ininite. Even Mass Effect 3 wasn't as good gameplay wise as Mass Effect 2.

Virtually every major franchise this gen had one sequel too many.

[chrisdude]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I honestly can't think of any franchise this gen that hasn't been run into the ground. Assassin's Creed, Dead Space, Resident Evil, Final Fantasy, Call of Duty, Ninja Gaiden, God of War, Ratchet, Halo, Gears, etc.

Even Bioshock had the totally pointless "Bioshock 2" which was nothing more than a filler game between the first and Ininite. Even Mass Effect 3 wasn't as good gameplay wise as Mass Effect 2.

Virtually every major franchise this gen had one sequel too many.

Well, that goes for games, movies, music albums - everything. They always keep dipping until the well runs dry. They have to pull up an empty bucket before they'll stop. When we stop buying them, they'll cut it out. But not until then.

[Peanut]

That's what I meant. Saying one of these consoles has "better exclusives" when those exclusives amount to a game or two before they're viciously driven into the pavement isn't saying much. Even Uncharted, which was a decent game followed up by an absolute masterpiece with Uncharted 2, had an awful handheld game sh*t out and a less than stellar 3rd entry almost immediately.

Originally Posted by Zulithe

I don't think wanting a Vita is insane

I own one, don't get me wrong. Persona 4 is easily my favourite game ever and P4G is now officially my favourite game of all-time, but the thing is a wasteland. Say what you will about a game here and there, the thing is a f*cking mess.

[CyberCubed]

Uncharted 3 wasn't great, but I still enjoyed it. I just hope if they continue the franchise on PS4 the next one is similar to the first two.

This gen was really missing a lot of those cartoony 3D mascot platformers that all previous gens had. Every developer tried to push realism this generation, that the whole cartoony animal mascot platformer has been abandoned.

Probably the only reason Rayman Origins was such a surprise hit.

[Peanut]

It still drives me insane that Rare had a beautiful looking, beautiful controlling 3D Banjo engine and used it to muck around with vehicle building physics sh*t. Not that Nuts and Bolts wasn't good, but they should have just taken that and shoved a normal Banjo game in there. I would have loved that.

I'm hoping we get back to more colourful mascot stuff this generation. I really miss weird character designs and bright, strange worlds. Stuff like Earthworm Jim and Conker. Also, the adventurous and unique feel of the weird kinds of PS1 games like Incredible Crisis or even sh*t like Croc. That Knack game for PS4 seems like it's built with that mindset, so that's exciting.

[CyberCubed]

I think what's bothered me about this gen is everything is too realistic. With the exception of Nintendo games we don't have huge colorful worlds anymore to explore. I look at my older game collection and that's what I used to love most.

Sadly looking at what we know from next-gen games so far, its probably going to be similar to this generation. Way too many shooters and generic sports games.

[Peanut]

I think Nintendo could really steal a lot of us this generation, just by being them. If this next-gen continues down the path started with 360/PS3 it could be a bleak f*cking future for most of us.

[AT-Man]

Originally Posted by Peanut

Man. Never having any reason to buy an XONE, but someday wanting to have a Vita is insane.

So far any Xbox exclusive haven't been for me, I don't think this will change. But I'm still monitoring the situation, this is just how I feel atm.

Originally Posted by Zulithe

I don't think wanting a Vita is insane, it depends all on your game preferences and play style. ....ride a train to work and back each day, so my 3DS and Vita have a lot of value. ...Persona 4 Golden...

If you plan on getting a PS4 and/or have a PS+ membership, having a Vita makes great sense, and if you like JRPGs it's hard to justify not owning one if you have the money for it.

Yes. I play with PSP quite a lot, and I wouldn't mind getting trophies for playing good games while traveling or on breaks at work. It's also so much easier to play with a handheld just for a little while and later continue from the same point.

edit: An Eternal Darkness sequel would be a major reason for me to buy a Wii U.

[Baxter Stockmen]

I'll do what I did with the 360. Wait until there are some actual titles and reasons to get the system. Being the first adopters never really made sense to me since most of the time the system needed to work out some kinks.

[Peanut]

They're already crowdsourcing an episodic sequel to ED for Wii U and PC.