Most Overrated TMNT Character?

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

Most over-rated? I vote for Krang. Even though I LOVE the dynamic between him and Shredder in OT, he always seemed kind of weak. For being a powerful warlord in Dimension X, and with all the tech he had, he certainly seemed helpless without Shredder around to do everything for him. He didn't even have hands! He was just a squishy brain-squid thing that needed Shredder to do all the work while he just came up with the (usually ineffective) plans.

You guys take the original toon way too seriously.

The joke was that Shredder and Krang were incompetent villains, and they would constantly fail no matter how many times they tried to take over the Earth. Its how shows were written back then.

[raph27]

Totally Krang.

[Refractive Reflections]

I have a few:

Angry Raphael - I understand the short-tempered behavior some have, but why? ...Why? As Powder said, his anger is one-dimensional. I know some reincarnations have dealt with it because of his solitary, unique existence in being a mutant Turtle, but you would wish that he was smart enough to eventually realize to at least not direct his anger toward the very same people (his brothers and other friends) who care about him which ironically, would make Raphael even more alone. (I know in Archie's Future Raphael, he tells the current one to enjoy his family more, but ironically isn't Future Raphael still just as bitter or more so?)
I mean I'm not expecting him to completely lose his irritable, short-tempered, choleric personality, but there needs to be some substantial growth in that area though.

Mona Lisa - Yes, it was adorable that Raphael "met his match" in playful sarcasm, but her popularity is so unbalanced considering she's only been in one episode. The only way I could try to figure it out, is that there must be a significant amount of female viewers that can somehow...empathize with her...? (Besides the "furry" aspect, maybe it's the girl who can finally "tame" hotheaded Raphael as with Ninjara.)

Tokka and Rahzar - They were just brain-dead mutants in the second movie, and somehow their positions have been elevated as almost a "necessity" as part of the TMNT franchise. At least with Bebop and Rocksteady, even though they were dumb, at least they had a unique humorous bond that was shown in the OT, but yet they are considered "less important" than Tokka and Rahzar.

Originally Posted by MsMarvelDuckie

He was just a squishy brain-squid thing that needed Shredder to do all the work while he just came up with the (usually ineffective) plans.

I think the OT just highlighted the failures of Krang and Shredder in a louder and humorous way than with the other villains in other versions of TMNT. Most to all plans of the villains are going to fail eventually in destroying the Turtles or taking over the world, as in every version of TMNT.

[Vi11AiN6]

Originally Posted by Gyt Kaliba

To be fair, Nick Raph is still 'Angry Raph' - it's just a lot more balanced out. He's like a cool mergure between the angry type and the sarcastic type.

Agreed and it's why Nick Raph is the best version so fat IMHO

[ssjup81]

Originally Posted by Mondo_Gecko

I liked Mona Lisa because not only was she a female mutant, which was a nice change, her personality was a mirror image of Raphael. I wish she came back so she could have been expanded on and also for continuity. I really hope they bring her back for Nick's version.

Yes!! This is why I liked her so much. I liked Raph for those traits so it was nice seeing another character who could match wits with him.

[Zulithe]

Originally Posted by RaphaeltheAwesome13

Totally Krang.

I agree... OT Krang... the most hideous android (body) EVER and yet people go crazy for it... I will never understand it, ever. And yes I grew up in the 80s/90s with OT TMNT!

[CyberCubed]

Krang's Android body looks cool. Would you prefer it looking like a generic Utrom exoskeleton like in 4kids and Nick? Hell no the android body is amazing.

[FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza]

Originally Posted by Donatello19

Bebop and Rocksteady. I never liked them, and I don't understand why everyone sees them as such great characters, if you can even call them as such

Nostalgia

Originally Posted by JYX

Tokka and Rahzar - They were just brain-dead mutants in the second movie, and somehow their positions have been elevated as almost a "necessity" as part of the TMNT franchise. At least with Bebop and Rocksteady, even though they were dumb, at least they had a unique humorous bond that was shown in the OT, but yet they are considered "less important" than Tokka and Rahzar.

I been trying to come up with an overrated character as I read this... but I'll agree here with Tokka and Rahzar.
Also Hob in the IDW comics. I dont know where he stands with a fandom and I got into the IDW books late enough that I missed the first, like, 10 or so issues, but anytime he appears I get annoyed.

[JTH]

Honestly, Probably Baxter Stockman.

Once his debut is done in every incarnation, 95% of his usage is just in filler roles that other characters could be used in.

[Keldor1578]

Originally Posted by ObiWanFan4life

I'd have to say this incarnation of Shredder, I hear people who watch 2012 talk about him being a badass, but in my opinion, he's not worthy of being called a badass because of how Incompetent and Underdeveloped he is.

This, only because the Shredder is human in the nicktoon, he's an awful character.

[Shreddhead]

Originally Posted by ObiWanFan4life

I'd have to say this incarnation of Shredder, I hear people who watch 2012 talk about him being a badass, but in my opinion, he's not worthy of being called a badass because of how Incompetent and Underdeveloped he is.

I would have to go with the Shredder myself as well. But I disagree with your reasoning. I agree that The Nick Shredder may be a bit undeveloped but the fact is that every time he comes into contact with the turtles, he wipes the floor with them. Thats pretty "badass" to me. Ya he does usually just hang around his headquarters, sending his incompetent goons to do his dirty work,but when he does show up you know he means business. (Plus I think Kevin Michael Richardson does a great job with his voice)

To me, the shredder has always been overrated because of how little he was in the comics (IDW excluded). The green machine takes him out in the first issue, and then he doesnt show up again until City At War (if im remembering correctly). I read the comics some years after being a big fan of the original toon and I couldnt believe what little presence he had upon my first read through.

[FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza]

Originally Posted by Keldor1578

This, only because the Shredder is human in the nicktoon, he's an awful character.

Hasn't he always been human aside from the 2003 series?

I honestly think they could get some good mileage out of him if they play up the current Shredder from the IDW books

[ObiWanFan4life]

Originally Posted by Shreddhead

I would have to go with the Shredder myself as well. But I disagree with your reasoning. I agree that The Nick Shredder may be a bit undeveloped but the fact is that every time he comes into contact with the turtles, he wipes the floor with them. Thats pretty "badass" to me. Ya he does usually just hang around his headquarters, sending his incompetent goons to do his dirty work,but when he does show up you know he means business. (Plus I think Kevin Michael Richardson does a great job with his voice).

I agree that Kevin Micheal Richardson does a good job playing the character, But as a villain and a character on the whole, he's very uninteresting and generic. Hopefully, this will be rectified by the 2nd season. I only said he wasn't much of a bad ass because he's not very proactive.

[Gyt Kaliba]

Honestly, Richardson is part of the issue for me. Don't get me wrong, he is an AMAZING actor, and once we finally start to get more Shredder where they use him properly (hopefully), then I'm going to enjoy the hell out of it. As things are right now though, where all we have is a guy who's big, kicks ass, and...that's it. He's big and he kicks ass. So they went with the most obvious voice for that type of thing, a really, really deep one.

So it's kind of a compound problem - I want to see this Shredder do more and see that he's not just what he appears on the surface, because it'll give Richardson all the more room to play in, and that's what I really wanna hear.

[Shreddhead]

I definitely agree with both of you.

[Irishmile]

Hmmm.. I may get some eye rollies for this but for me I think it would be Radical... The "super hero" type stuff seemed shoe horned into the TMNT universe in an attempt to draw in more mainstream comic readers.

[FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza]

Originally Posted by miru

For me, it would be Tatsu. There's just nothing really special about him. Not that I hate Tatsu, however.

You mean... people actually "rated" Tatsu?
I never really knew anyone to care about him that much lol

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

You guys take the original toon way too seriously.

The joke was that Shredder and Krang were incompetent villains, and they would constantly fail no matter how many times they tried to take over the Earth. Its how shows were written back then.

I never said I took it seriously- it's just that even as a "campy" villain, he was nigh useless. One could argue that Shredder was the REAL threat- without his android body(that Shredder built!), Krang couldn't even wipe his @$$! (so to speak) And for someone who was "all brain", he certainly got outsmarted a lot..... (Buffy Shellhammer, anyone? A FIFTEEN YEAR OLD GIRL tricked them!)

And not all shows were written that way back then. I remember Megatron being far more competent(though I'll go out on a limb and say that all the GOOD plans came from Starscream!). Same with some other cartoon villains of the 80's.

[cryan]

I am going with OT Mutagen man. I was wondering what he was like in the Archie comic(if he was in there).I though MM was very annoying.

[Powder]

Originally Posted by Irishmile

Hmmm.. I may get some eye rollies for this but for me I think it would be Radical... The "super hero" type stuff seemed shoe horned into the TMNT universe in an attempt to draw in more mainstream comic readers.

Originally Posted by cryan

I am going with OT Mutagen man. I was wondering what he was like in the Archie comic(if he was in there).I though MM was very annoying.

They're not overrated, you just don't like them. Small/minor characters like that don't even have a following.