Why is Raph pretty much the main character in all the films?

Leofan26 · 07-30-2013, 10:45 AM

Look, I like the guy as much as the next person but that's one thing I always found annoying about the films. I felt they did things wrong and should have switched turtles each one goes by, for example I always thought movie 3 should have had Leo as the main character, it would have made more sense with the settings and swords don't yah think?

Toby Barrett · 07-30-2013, 10:54 AM

Donatello was more the main turtle for Secret of the Ooze, and Mikey for TMNT 3.

*CyberCubed* · 07-30-2013, 10:54 AM

For the same reason that Wolverine is the main character of almost all the X-men films. They think movie goers like the tough, solo, badass, "sex symbol" over other characters.

Raphael and Wolverine's attitude and tough persona drive the story for casual movie goers, and I guess that's why they do it.

xChri5x · 07-30-2013, 11:38 AM

TIL Raph is a "sex symbol"

pingclang · 07-30-2013, 11:44 AM

Because, he's Raph.

*Luckyday* · 07-30-2013, 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by xChri5x

TIL Raph is a "sex symbol"

Spoiler:

Don't ever do that again.

Leofan26 · 07-30-2013, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Toby Barrett

Donatello was more the main turtle for Secret of the Ooze, and Mikey for TMNT 3.

??? Either way, Raph had a main story arc in that film too even though Mikey had a plot as well. It just would have been nice to seen him pushed in the background for the other two films, that's what I'm hoping they fix with these if they have more than one flick again.

Raph is not a sex symbol, if any thing woman in the fandom see Donnie more as one and he's not even my favorite, just going by the reactions

FYI that comment got me grossed out too

Don't even get me started on Wolverine, yah know how much the X-Men fandom hate him now

*Zulithe* · 07-30-2013, 12:44 PM

Someone call a sex symbol?

**Jester** · 07-30-2013, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Zulithe

Someone call a sex symbol?

Spoiler:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luckyday

Don't ever do that again.

Spoiler:

Seems about right....

ryukenden · 07-30-2013, 02:01 PM

Perhaps the writers thought Raph was the most complex with his anger issues from Mirage. Which was a far cry from his more mellow OT persona which I'm sure left quite a lot of fans whom were kids at the time scratching their heads wondering why Raph is a beserker, myself included.

*Powder* · 07-30-2013, 03:13 PM

Raph gets shine because he's arguably the most popular turtle, plain & simple. But like others have said, the first film was sort of a split between Raph & Leo (as was TMNT, IMO) and the second and third starred Donny & Mikey respectively. Seems this new film will focus on Raph, though, which I feel pretty meh about, personally. He's overrated.

*BabyTurtles* · 07-30-2013, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Toby Barrett

Donatello was more the main turtle for Secret of the Ooze, and Mikey for TMNT 3.

wait! theres a 3rd TMNT movie!? 0_0....I thought there were only 2!?

(not including tmnt 2007)

so....i have to watch another movie!?

Welmanshire · 07-30-2013, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Toby Barrett

Donatello was more the main turtle for Secret of the Ooze, and Mikey for TMNT 3.

I would argue that Raph was the main Turtle in SOTO. He breaks away from the group to infiltrate the Foot with Keno, then he gets caught in he junkyard and the Turtles go I to rescue him. There wasn't any solo coverage of Donnie like that, although I will admit he gets more screen time (relatively) compared to the first film.

Raphaeline · 07-30-2013, 05:00 PM

I think Raph is the kind of character who would be the most popular with the young public. Like a teenager, he's a kind of rebel, doesn't like orders, he is tough, badass...

The young public would not really identify itself (temper speaking) with the too-serious Leo, Donnie is maybe a bit too smart/geek and Mikey not tough enough.

He's my favorite turtle as well, so I don't complain.

(and yes I think fangirls can think he's hot. For a mutant turtle I mean

) don't laugh, I see so many fangirls on tumblr drooling over the Raph from the Nick show, saying he's hot/sexy/awesome.

*Eiko* · 07-30-2013, 06:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

wait! theres a 3rd TMNT movie!? 0_0....I thought there were only 2!?

(not including tmnt 2007)

so....i have to watch another movie!?

Um yea Turtles 3 where they go to Japan would not rush to go see it you have not missed much.

*chrisdude* · 07-30-2013, 06:30 PM

I think it just looks that way. When a team has a rebellious member, he's gonna get some solo screen time. Doesn't mean he's the star. Similar thing with 3, when Mickey's separated from the pack.

I think Leo and Raph drive the story in 2007. That's the only time I felt any turtles were underrepresented.

*BabyTurtles* · 07-30-2013, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Eiko

Um yea Turtles 3 where they go to Japan would not rush to go see it you have not missed much.

I saw the first and second movie I am going to watch the third

*snake* · 07-30-2013, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

I saw the first and second movie I am going to watch the third

Yeah, go watch the third movie.....I'm sure you'll love it

Toby Barrett · 07-30-2013, 08:26 PM

Some people, myself included, sincerely enjoy the third film.

*CyberCubed* · 07-30-2013, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

I saw the first and second movie I am going to watch the third

You honestly never knew there was a third live action film?

07-30-2013, 10:45 AM	#1
Leofan26 Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 1,306	Why is Raph pretty much the main character in all the films? Look, I like the guy as much as the next person but that's one thing I always found annoying about the films. I felt they did things wrong and should have switched turtles each one goes by, for example I always thought movie 3 should have had Leo as the main character, it would have made more sense with the settings and swords don't yah think?

07-30-2013, 11:38 AM	#4
xChri5x Stone Warrior Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 901	TIL Raph is a "sex symbol" __________________

07-30-2013, 05:00 PM	#14
Raphaeline Foot Soldier Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 185	I think Raph is the kind of character who would be the most popular with the young public. Like a teenager, he's a kind of rebel, doesn't like orders, he is tough, badass... The young public would not really identify itself (temper speaking) with the too-serious Leo, Donnie is maybe a bit too smart/geek and Mikey not tough enough. He's my favorite turtle as well, so I don't complain. (and yes I think fangirls can think he's hot. For a mutant turtle I mean ) don't laugh, I see so many fangirls on tumblr drooling over the Raph from the Nick show, saying he's hot/sexy/awesome. __________________ My deviantart

07-30-2013, 06:30 PM	#16
chrisdude Foot Elite Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: North Carolina Posts: 2,708	I think it just looks that way. When a team has a rebellious member, he's gonna get some solo screen time. Doesn't mean he's the star. Similar thing with 3, when Mickey's separated from the pack. I think Leo and Raph drive the story in 2007. That's the only time I felt any turtles were underrepresented. __________________ PSN/Miiverse: MikeFarber

07-30-2013, 10:54 AM	#2
Toby Barrett Stone Warrior Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 946	Donatello was more the main turtle for Secret of the Ooze, and Mikey for TMNT 3.

07-30-2013, 10:54 AM	#3
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,838	For the same reason that Wolverine is the main character of almost all the X-men films. They think movie goers like the tough, solo, badass, "sex symbol" over other characters. Raphael and Wolverine's attitude and tough persona drive the story for casual movie goers, and I guess that's why they do it.

07-30-2013, 11:44 AM	#5
pingclang Stone Warrior Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Tennessee Posts: 552	Because, he's Raph.

07-30-2013, 12:44 PM	#8
Zulithe Ninjutsu Master Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 6,418	Someone call a sex symbol?

07-30-2013, 02:01 PM	#10
ryukenden Hench Mutant Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 383	Perhaps the writers thought Raph was the most complex with his anger issues from Mirage. Which was a far cry from his more mellow OT persona which I'm sure left quite a lot of fans whom were kids at the time scratching their heads wondering why Raph is a beserker, myself included.

07-30-2013, 03:13 PM	#11
Powder 40 Years of TMNT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Shell-Ri-La Posts: 26,945	Raph gets shine because he's arguably the most popular turtle, plain & simple. But like others have said, the first film was sort of a split between Raph & Leo (as was TMNT, IMO) and the second and third starred Donny & Mikey respectively. Seems this new film will focus on Raph, though, which I feel pretty meh about, personally. He's overrated.

07-30-2013, 08:26 PM	#19
Toby Barrett Stone Warrior Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 946	Some people, myself included, sincerely enjoy the third film.