The Ones Who Are Called the Kraang Sure Die a Lot

Konchadunga · 07-29-2013, 10:21 PM

I've noticed this in multiple episodes. So far, this series has shied away from any actual onscreen death, whether it be happening to heroes or villains, but this bit is an exception. The Kraang seem to get killed an awful lot, be it by Leatherhead, the Newtraliser, or even by Donatello most recently, in a way that seemed deliberate. Now, I'm probably infamous at this point for my adamant feelings that heroes all over media should be more willing to kill, and the turtles should do it at times, so this doesn't bug me at all, but I am forced to wonder, why are the Kraang so much more expendable than everyone else? Is it because they all look and sound alike, so presumably nobody empathizes with them?

*Donatello19* · 07-29-2013, 11:03 PM

Exactly what you said. Who cares about the Kraang? They're all identical...nobody's gonna be all like "Aw, I miss Kraang #724...I can't believe they killed him off!"

*CyberCubed* · 07-29-2013, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Donatello19

Exactly what you said. Who cares about the Kraang? They're all identical...nobody's gonna be all like "Aw, I miss Kraang #724...I can't believe they killed him off!"

I think what he's getting at is Nick is showing them die on or off-screen, and this is a kids show. Most kids cartoons don't show bad guys die even if there's many of them.

The 4kids series got away with it too but that series was more serious.

*Donatello19* · 07-29-2013, 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

I think what he's getting at is Nick is showing them die on or off-screen, and this is a kids show. Most kids cartoons don't show bad guys die even if there's many of them.

The 4kids series got away with it too but that series was more serious.

I don't really recall any instances of them dying besides when the Newtrailizer ate one. Sure it's IMPLIED that they die, it's not like it's confirmed.

*Coola Yagami* · 07-29-2013, 11:10 PM

It's the usual rule cartoons. If it's some mindless monster, who cares? If it's something completely humanoid then you can't.

Look at Snakeweed. Not only do they cut off his arms cause he's a weed monster, he also grows them back. You'll never see Leo slice Dogpound's arm off.

*CyberCubed* · 07-29-2013, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Donatello19

I don't really recall any instances of them dying besides when the Newtrailizer ate one. Sure it's IMPLIED that they die, it's not like it's confirmed.

Leatherhead practically ate two after the camera cut off.

*Donatello19* · 07-29-2013, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Leatherhead practically ate two after the camera cut off.

All we see is him open his mouth and roar loudly at them. It's heavily implied that he eats them, but we don't know exactly what happens after the camera cuts off.

*Coola Yagami* · 07-30-2013, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Donatello19

All we see is him open his mouth and roar loudly at them. It's heavily implied that he eats them, but we don't know exactly what happens after the camera cuts off.

I'm more inclined to think he ripped them to shreds.

*BubblyShell22* · 07-30-2013, 08:56 AM

It's probably because they're aliens, so it's not going to cause some controversy if they get killed off. If the Turtles were to kill a human, that would be different and cause a lot of controversy if it was shown. I think Newtralizer eating that Kraang was a pretty gutsy move on the writers' parts, and I applaud them for it.

Atren · 07-30-2013, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BubblyShell22

It's probably because they're aliens, so it's not going to cause some controversy if they get killed off. If the Turtles were to kill a human, that would be different and cause a lot of controversy if it was shown. I think Newtralizer eating that Kraang was a pretty gutsy move on the writers' parts, and I applaud them for it.

That scene reminded me of King Hsss from He-Man last decade series. So it is not new thing really.

I do agree not being human plays huge part of it. Suprisingly on other hand from what I have heard there was huge issue with beheading in previous series.

DonatelloNinja82 · 07-30-2013, 10:57 AM

Exactly...there's zillions of them...like red shirts on Star Trek

Gin Rummy · 07-30-2013, 12:06 PM

Who cares if they get killed off, They're not cute, meaning their lives do not matter.

FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza · 07-31-2013, 02:38 PM

I just started watching the Nick show... this morning...
But what I got was that they are the new '87 Foot Soldiers.
They are robots in large population that are there to be beat up and sliced into so the Turtles dont have to when a mortal/living creature is next to fight.

*snake* · 08-01-2013, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Gin Rummy

Who cares if they get killed off, They're not cute, meaning their lives do not matter.

Kraangs aren't cute?

*pannoni1* · 08-01-2013, 12:10 PM

While the Kraang are more powerful than the 1987 Foot Soldiers, they make great distractors for the Turtles attempting to complete their objective. And we still have Foot Soldiers in this series as well. A major difference is that the Kraang alien often just runs back to the Kraang leader to be reused again. I do laugh a lot when they scurry back and make that funny sound.

FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza · 08-01-2013, 01:56 PM

I like all the electronic beeps and whurrs they make haha
Much better than the fart noises from Snakeweed

~~ABrown~~ · 08-01-2013, 03:22 PM

The ones that are called Kraang are the ones that the one known as ABrown finds to be the most entertaining in the show that is called Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

*Shark_Blade* · 08-01-2013, 05:59 PM

I like their so called "deaths".

Keep bringing the hotness Nick.

*snake* · 08-01-2013, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza

I like all the electronic beeps and whurrs they make haha
Much better than the fart noises from Snakeweed

I make fart noises

Captain PunchYouHard · 08-03-2013, 02:25 PM

Just occurred to me - the one Donnie tossed out of the helicopter in episode two probably didn't land on a pile of kittens and pillows.

that was a really damn cool move, too

07-29-2013, 10:21 PM	#1
Konchadunga Stone Warrior Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Southern California Posts: 912	The Ones Who Are Called the Kraang Sure Die a Lot I've noticed this in multiple episodes. So far, this series has shied away from any actual onscreen death, whether it be happening to heroes or villains, but this bit is an exception. The Kraang seem to get killed an awful lot, be it by Leatherhead, the Newtraliser, or even by Donatello most recently, in a way that seemed deliberate. Now, I'm probably infamous at this point for my adamant feelings that heroes all over media should be more willing to kill, and the turtles should do it at times, so this doesn't bug me at all, but I am forced to wonder, why are the Kraang so much more expendable than everyone else? Is it because they all look and sound alike, so presumably nobody empathizes with them? __________________

07-29-2013, 11:10 PM	#5
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15,709	It's the usual rule cartoons. If it's some mindless monster, who cares? If it's something completely humanoid then you can't. Look at Snakeweed. Not only do they cut off his arms cause he's a weed monster, he also grows them back. You'll never see Leo slice Dogpound's arm off. __________________ "I was down with TMNT once, but then they changed what TMNT was. Now what I was down with is no longer TMNT and what TMNT now is seems weird and scary. And it'll happen to YOU." Check out my blog for Comic Reviews and other things. https://markepicblogofrandomness.blogspot.com/ I also started The AEW Crew, the All Elite Wrestling Fan Club! https://www.facebook.com/groups/637508120044168/

07-30-2013, 08:56 AM	#9
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	It's probably because they're aliens, so it's not going to cause some controversy if they get killed off. If the Turtles were to kill a human, that would be different and cause a lot of controversy if it was shown. I think Newtralizer eating that Kraang was a pretty gutsy move on the writers' parts, and I applaud them for it. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

07-30-2013, 10:57 AM	#11
DonatelloNinja82 Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,345	Exactly...there's zillions of them...like red shirts on Star Trek __________________ Michelangelo: Holy guacamole with hot sauce and jalapenos!

07-30-2013, 12:06 PM	#12
Gin Rummy Stone Warrior Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Boston, Massachusetts Posts: 648	Who cares if they get killed off, They're not cute, meaning their lives do not matter. __________________ Maybe, just once, someone will call me 'Sir' without adding, 'You're making a scene.'

07-29-2013, 11:03 PM	#2
Donatello19 Merchandise Maniac Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: New York Posts: 5,919	Exactly what you said. Who cares about the Kraang? They're all identical...nobody's gonna be all like "Aw, I miss Kraang #724...I can't believe they killed him off!"

07-31-2013, 02:38 PM	#13
FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,229	I just started watching the Nick show... this morning... But what I got was that they are the new '87 Foot Soldiers. They are robots in large population that are there to be beat up and sliced into so the Turtles dont have to when a mortal/living creature is next to fight.

08-01-2013, 12:10 PM	#15
pannoni1 Foot Elite Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: USA Posts: 3,447	While the Kraang are more powerful than the 1987 Foot Soldiers, they make great distractors for the Turtles attempting to complete their objective. And we still have Foot Soldiers in this series as well. A major difference is that the Kraang alien often just runs back to the Kraang leader to be reused again. I do laugh a lot when they scurry back and make that funny sound. __________________ http://forums.thetechnodrome.com/sho...d.php?t=37065- MY WANT LIST TMNT FAN CLUB LINK: http://sot.ag/gCjK/ 30 years of Turtle Power!

08-01-2013, 01:56 PM	#16
FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,229	I like all the electronic beeps and whurrs they make haha Much better than the fart noises from Snakeweed

08-01-2013, 03:22 PM	#17
~~ABrown~~ Banned Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,831	The ones that are called Kraang are the ones that the one known as ABrown finds to be the most entertaining in the show that is called Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles.

08-01-2013, 05:59 PM	#18
Shark_Blade Emperor Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,909	I like their so called "deaths". Keep bringing the hotness Nick.

08-03-2013, 02:25 PM	#20
Captain PunchYouHard Hench Mutant Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Texas Posts: 334	Just occurred to me - the one Donnie tossed out of the helicopter in episode two probably didn't land on a pile of kittens and pillows. that was a really damn cool move, too __________________ (GIF by Martinf)