Season 1 Finale Spoilers

[Jester]

The difference between going to a RHPS forum or any of the others listed is there's ONE RHPS. TMNT has many different facets and variations.

As for Alliance...he does NOTHING aside from rip the 4Kids series. Andrew's finished the Image volume, was working on a massive world hopping book with Jim Lawson in Odyssey. He may be vocally, "Mirage or nothing!" but he's "paid his dues."

[Konchadunga]

Dues? There are no dues here; free speech is free speech. Andrew has a right to his opinion, but so do I and Zarius have a right to ours, and mine, and presumably his, is that Andrew is a whiny prick. If he gets to boo the Fred Wolf series (and anything else), then I and Zarius get to boo him. It's his choice.

[Jester]

So booing an aspect of a fandom is equal to booing a PERSON!?

There's a difference between speaking your mind about a freakin' comic book franchise and TV series, but when it comes to personal attacks on an individual? There is a difference.

[Powder]

Originally Posted by ZariusTwo

My turtles are better than your turtles!

Your condition is showing.

[ToTheNines]

Originally Posted by Jester

It was never confirmed that Kraang Prime was female. We all assumed since an ACTRESS was voicing him he'd be female. We were wrong.

Kinda like the idea that we NEED a THE Krang.....

I think you're thinking about back when we got news that Casandra Peterson was cast. It was said that she was going to be voicing the female Kraang, but she ended up voicing Mrs. Campbell/random Kraangdroid.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

I think you're thinking about back when we got news that Casandra Peterson was cast. It was said that she was going to be voicing the female Kraang, but she ended up voicing Mrs. Campbell/random Kraangdroid.

You know...you're right. Heck, I think even Rob Paulsen was saying that SHE was the female Kraang.

Thanks for the clear up.

[Konchadunga]

Originally Posted by Jester

So booing an aspect of a fandom is equal to booing a PERSON!?

There's a difference between speaking your mind about a freakin' comic book franchise and TV series, but when it comes to personal attacks on an individual? There is a difference.

Not for me. Not when you know that dissing a thing in a certain place will annoy people. There's a difference between stealing from someone and holding someone captive, technically, but that doesn't mean you necessarily spare the latter as punishment for the former.

[Avatar Yuffie]

I'm actually... not surprised?

I got the "OMG Technodrome of the modern adaptation!" rush from Turtles Forever.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by Konchadunga

Not for me. Not when you know that dissing a thing in a certain place will annoy people. There's a difference between stealing from someone and holding someone captive, technically, but that doesn't mean you necessarily spare the latter as punishment for the former.

It may ANNOY people, but personal attacks aren't necessary. Believe me, Andrew knows I disagree with him, but there was a lot of venom in that diatribe. You are using a huge false equivalency. Andrew's disdain for the other branches of the TMNT tree is just that, an opinion. The post Zarius made could almost be considered libelous, if you wanna push it.

In the end, I'm sure Mr. Modeen could care less about this whole thing, and to be honest we really are derailing the thread.

[Chicagoguy]

I didn't mean to cause an argument in regards to Kraang Prime and if it is or isn't THE Krang. Personally I've loved every incarnation of the TMNT from Mirage to Image to Archie to IDW to all three cartoon series. As long as the stories are well done and the TMNT remain who they are at their cores, then I will be always be happy.

In any case, I was able to find some more spoilers about the finale. I googled the name of the book that I mentioned and came upon the following website: books.google.com/books?isbn=0307982254

It basically provides a preview of random pages from that book. I didn't read any of it, but it does have a few cool drawings including one of

Spoiler:

Kraang Prime in an OT like bodysuit

Again, I'm sure the text contains spoilers, but I'm not going to read it to find out. Enjoy!

[Konchadunga]

I've gotta say, so far I'm a lot more impressed by this show's repurposing of Fred Wolf aspects than I am with IDW's. IDW is commendable for just how audacious it was for building an ultimate universe, but so far, about the only thing it's really done with such characters as Krang and the Neutrinos is remove their humor and make them tougher. Once the rush of seeing them again wears off, I really don't care that much for the new incarnations of them. This show, on the other hand, is happy to take old ideas and run all over the place with them. Their Kraang are tougher than Krang in the OT, but on top of that, they have their own fun quirks. Rat King is much scarier than OT rat king, but that's not all they did; they also gave him a backstory. Same with having a Baxter who's something other than an up-and-coming mad scientist, and giving Karai a new scene girl aesthetic. This show goes the extra mile.

[KROW]

Zarius has a point, but as with all the points he makes, they're quite sharp.

Originally Posted by Donatello19

Wait a minute.....If the Technodrome is gonna be in the show....THAN THAT MEANS THERE WILL (most likely) BE A PLAY SET OF IT!!!

That's cute as hell.

[Powder]

Originally Posted by Konchadunga

I've gotta say, so far I'm a lot more impressed by this show's repurposing of Fred Wolf aspects than I am with IDW's. IDW is commendable for just how audacious it was for building an ultimate universe, but so far, about the only thing it's really done with such characters as Krang and the Neutrinos is remove their humor and make them tougher. Once the rush of seeing them again wears off, I really don't care that much for the new incarnations of them. This show, on the other hand, is happy to take old ideas and run all over the place with them. Their Kraang are tougher than Krang in the OT, but on top of that, they have their own fun quirks. Rat King is much scarier than OT rat king, but that's not all they did; they also gave him a backstory. Same with having a Baxter who's something other than an up-and-coming mad scientist, and giving Karai a new scene girl aesthetic. This show goes the extra mile.

I couldn't agree more.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by Konchadunga

I've gotta say, so far I'm a lot more impressed by this show's repurposing of Fred Wolf aspects than I am with IDW's. IDW is commendable for just how audacious it was for building an ultimate universe, but so far, about the only thing it's really done with such characters as Krang and the Neutrinos is remove their humor and make them tougher. Once the rush of seeing them again wears off, I really don't care that much for the new incarnations of them. This show, on the other hand, is happy to take old ideas and run all over the place with them. Their Kraang are tougher than Krang in the OT, but on top of that, they have their own fun quirks. Rat King is much scarier than OT rat king, but that's not all they did; they also gave him a backstory. Same with having a Baxter who's something other than an up-and-coming mad scientist, and giving Karai a new scene girl aesthetic. This show goes the extra mile.

The nick show is very humor heavy. IDW is not.

If anything IDW has the same tone as the 4kids series. Its story driven.

[Konchadunga]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

The nick show is very humor heavy. IDW is not.

If anything IDW has the same tone as the 4kids series. Its story driven.

Though you're correct, that ends up making it pretty dull when I'm already very familiar with prior incarnations. I admit I liked their Fugitoid revamp better than the original, and didn't ever see the twist coming, but other than that, most elements have just fallen into their predictable places with little to make revisiting them worth it. Either they're reusing Mirage/4Kids characters (with the exception of some, like Angel, they're about the same) with hardly any more aspects than they had before, or else they're revamping Fred Wolf characters in a way that gets rid of their humor and personalities, exposing that without those things, there's really not a lot there.

IDW's series seems like it operates on pure nostalgia and video game/toy logic; that is, it thinks mere inclusion of beloved characters and elements is enough to make people happy. Yet as cool as it is to see old elements rendered in cool new ways, that's what Google Image Search is for. Books are supposed to offer depth. I do enjoy the series somewhat, but after so much wide-but-narrow fanservice, I occasionally find myself wishing it would just do something new; a sentiment I never thought I'd express when I first started reading the series.

[Luckyday]

Originally Posted by Konchadunga

I've gotta say, so far I'm a lot more impressed by this show's repurposing of Fred Wolf aspects than I am with IDW's. IDW is commendable for just how audacious it was for building an ultimate universe, but so far, about the only thing it's really done with such characters as Krang and the Neutrinos is remove their humor and make them tougher. Once the rush of seeing them again wears off, I really don't care that much for the new incarnations of them. This show, on the other hand, is happy to take old ideas and run all over the place with them. Their Kraang are tougher than Krang in the OT, but on top of that, they have their own fun quirks. Rat King is much scarier than OT rat king, but that's not all they did; they also gave him a backstory. Same with having a Baxter who's something other than an up-and-coming mad scientist, and giving Karai a new scene girl aesthetic. This show goes the extra mile.

For all the flank Ciro gets, the man has talent of taking old stuff and make them feel new and exciting. The Neutrino in the IDW were a huge disappointment but I'm looking forward to see what kind of re-imagine is in store in the Nick universe.

[Konchadunga]

Have we proof that any is? At any rate, I would feel let down if Mikey and Kala's romance from the Fred Wolf show is not revived and developed, and holy crap; why am I saying that?!

[shredder orokusaki]

Originally Posted by Chicagoguy

I didn't mean to cause an argument in regards to Kraang Prime and if it is or isn't THE Krang. Personally I've loved every incarnation of the TMNT from Mirage to Image to Archie to IDW to all three cartoon series. As long as the stories are well done and the TMNT remain who they are at their cores, then I will be always be happy.

In any case, I was able to find some more spoilers about the finale. I googled the name of the book that I mentioned and came upon the following website: books.google.com/books?isbn=0307982254

It basically provides a preview of random pages from that book. I didn't read any of it, but it does have a few cool drawings including one of

Spoiler:

Kraang Prime in an OT like bodysuit

Again, I'm sure the text contains spoilers, but I'm not going to read it to find out. Enjoy!

I click the link but i dont see any screenshots or drawings. Where are they? Wow! it Kraang prime will be in a OT robot body too?!

[Jester]

Spoiler:

On page 28....is that...Wingnut's wing?

[shredder orokusaki]

How can i see the pages??