Do we only enjoy the show because we're already TMNT fans? - Page 2

DaVinci · 08-04-2013, 08:13 AM

It's not just because I'm a TMNT fan either. I was largely out of TMNT for about a decade before I watched the new show, to see if it was any good. I've kept watching it because it is good.

It led me to look for more Turtle things on the 'net, finding this site and starting on the IDW comics. Despite having been a big fan when I was little, I wouldn't have done any of that if I didn't enjoy the Nick show for what it is.

*CyberCubed* · 08-04-2013, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Konchadunga

At 28, I probably would not watch this show if I wasn't familiar with TMNT; these days, I only tend to watch cartoons if they have characters with whom I'm familiar.

Yeah...I have to agree with this. I don't watch cartoons at all anymore unless its a new incarnation of something I previously liked, (like a new Batman or X-men cartoon, etc.), so I agree with this.

If this was a brand new franchise and Nick's TMNT was the first time TMNT ever existed, I'm not sure I would have ever gotten into it. Maybe if I had kids down the road and they watched it though

*BubblyShell22* · 08-04-2013, 08:38 AM

No because I was leery when I heard Nick had bought the franchise and I was sure they would ruin it. But after giving it a chance, I really found I liked the show and never missed an episode. I definitely think it's the best incarnation they have going right now, and Ciro and crew are awesome with how they've handled it. Can't wait for more.

Martin · 08-04-2013, 10:12 AM

I think that because we are fans of the franchise we can't answer this objectively. Though I'm inclined to believe that no, there are probably a lot of people who also enjoy the show that aren't long standing fans of the turtles. However I also think that for some people the concept behind the TMNT may appear to be childish, and without a previous exposure to the franchise, they might dismiss it entirely because of it. So I couldn't really tell you.

I once posted some gifs on reddit and most of the people there had not seen the show. A couple were even turned off by the animation style. Others, however, were more receptive and said they would start watching it to see if they dug it. The post wasn't that popular to be honest, so I didn't get much data xD

If you are really interested in gouging this series success, I would recommend you to go to different sites and start asking around for people's opinions. Here you are only going to get (mainly) positive opinions about it.

kelligrafie · 08-04-2013, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Shark_Blade

Just because I'm a tmnt fan doesn't mean I'd like everything they throw at me. Next Mutation comes to mind.

Exactly. And we all saw what happened when they introduced the Pulverizer. There's always going to be characters/episodes that are loathed.

If I hadn't have been a fan of the '87 series I wouldn't have bothered to look up the current series. As a general rule I don't tend to watch television. And bar TMNT, there's only two other programs that I specifically make sure I watch.

That being said, I love this series more than I ever loved the '87 one. A million times over.

I don't mean to disrespect any of the previous series because they all brought something new to the franchise that appealed to different people. But I think the Nick series is more universally appealing and it combines all the best elements of every other series to date.

*Discogod* · 08-04-2013, 11:30 AM

Nope. I was pretty much done with TMNT before the cartoon premiered, and had every intention of avoiding it. But I caught the first couple of episodes, and it was pretty good, so I gave it a try. Now I'm only halfway through the first season, but it's already probably my favourite incarnation of the Turtles.

Captain PunchYouHard · 08-04-2013, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Martinf

I once posted some gifs on reddit and most of the people there had not seen the show. A couple were even turned off by the animation style. Others, however, were more receptive and said they would start watching it to see if they dug it. The post wasn't that popular to be honest, so I didn't get much data xD

This was my reflex. I hate anime and the anime-fication of oh, everything, that's been going on in the past several years, so my initial reaction to seeing the turtles portrayed with anime-style reactions was to throw the remote at the TV. I got over it, and it's actually amusing most of the time now.

*Storm Eagle* · 08-04-2013, 11:47 AM

Maybe already being a TMNT fan helps me enjoy the show, but the show is still good anyway. Even so, the earliest TMNT series is my all-time favorite.

*CyberCubed* · 08-04-2013, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Doom Cookie

This was my reflex. I hate anime and the anime-fication of oh, everything, that's been going on in the past several years, so my initial reaction to seeing the turtles portrayed with anime-style reactions was to throw the remote at the TV. I got over it, and it's actually amusing most of the time now.

I had already watched Teen Titans before this so I was used to it by now. Thankfully the anime expressions are more toned down here than in TT.

*Xav* · 08-04-2013, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by NinjaPug

Cubed brings up a good point with USM. I love Spider-Man but won't watch the new show because it isn't any good.

How do you know it isn't any good if you don't watch it? It's a fun show.

*Koi* · 08-04-2013, 12:47 PM

I think this show is absolutely mediocre, which is why I really don't post too much at all here because I have no interest in this show. I think fans make it a lot better then it actually is. It is decent but not that good. It just has average to low animation and it also just seems like a monster of the week show that was primary just made for a children's toyline. Kind of like the anime TMNT. It is a kid's show though and that is to be expected. Especially from Nickelodeon, which is I am sure the main reason they bought ninja turtle is to collect money from the merchandise mainly.

I also think most TMNT movies, comics, cartoons are rather just ordinary to crap though. I enjoy some of it just because I am a fan but when you start looking closer or looking back they all are pretty cheesy and just not that good.

Everyonehasopinions.

Leofan26 · 08-04-2013, 02:01 PM

For me, yah. You'd not believe the kind of reaction I had to seeing what the 2012 versions looked like but stayed tuned any ways cuz the title if this thread says all

However, I am glad I did as I'm really enjoying it and I think as the show goes on they'll become better and more developed, Leo in season 1 was a leader in training, I think in season 2 that will change, think hey'll become more serious with his training and skills due to the events in the finales and maybe a bit darker. Donnie over time will lose his crush on April and become more mature when it comes to saving lives. I'm hoping for Mikey, he becomes less of a clown and becomes a better fighter, improve himself. Don't know about Raph, work on his anger issues

Blossombrooks · 08-04-2013, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Koi

I also think most TMNT movies, comics, cartoons are rather just ordinary to crap though. I enjoy some of it just because I am a fan but when you start looking closer or looking back they all are pretty cheesy and just not that good.

Everyonehasopinions.

Not knocking your opinion, you're entitled to it. I'm asking this out of interest, which bits of the franchise are your favourite?

DonatelloNinja82 · 08-04-2013, 02:29 PM

Even though I have been a fan forever it seems, I think I would still like this show even if I wasn't a TMNT fan originally. As mentioned previously, I'm not a fan of Next Mutation just because it's TMNT, just as others don't like the 2k7 movie (I do, but that's besides the point), or TMNT 3 (it's ok...). I think this show is great. I was honestly sad when I heard Nick had bought it, worried about what would become of the turtles, and I didn't like the fact that they had made April a teenager. But then Sept 29, 2012 came and I decided to watch it, and was instantly hooked. I love what Nick has done with the Turtles. I love the animation, the fighting, their personalities, the writing, the jokes, the emotion. I hardly watch TV at all. TMNT is the only show besides Futurama that I am watching right now (although when Korra comes back next month I will be watching that too). So that says something for me. If a show is well written with a good story and engaging characters, I will watch it.

*raph27* · 08-04-2013, 06:54 PM

Well, I wasn't a TMNT fan before watching it. So yeah.

*Coola Yagami* · 08-05-2013, 01:43 AM

I'd honestly I wouldn't watch it, and wouldn't buy the IDW comics either. The comics I mostly buy are Batman-related, so I buy these new TMNT comics cause I'm a TMNT fan, and I like them finally having a regular monthly on-going series (Mirage's Volume 4 was almost years apart, and Tales of the TMNT jumped all over the place continuity-wise).

As for the cartoon, I find myself too busy to watch or care about cartoons nowadays, so I'm sure I woulda passed on this thinking it was some stupid silly show. However, as a TMNT fan, when it comes to a TMNT cartoon, I don't care, I MAKE time to watch it.

So yeah, big chance I wouldn't really give a damn unless I was already a TMNT beforehand.

*Candy Kappa* · 08-05-2013, 02:46 AM

I of course started to watch it because I am a TMNT fan, all the teaser material looked fantastic. I continue to watch it because it is a great show and well animated

Raphaeline · 08-05-2013, 05:38 PM

I wouldn't have watched it if I was not a TMNT fan. Even as a TMNT fan, I thought that the Nick 3D style was ugly, especially April. I usually don't like 3D cartoons because most of the time there is no real backgrounds, the design is pretty basic, cheap animation, etc.

But well I forced myself to watch the first episode, because I wanted to give a chance to this new series.

And I found it fun and the scenario well-written, and got used to the design (even if I still think that the rendering of human faces are usually awful and that Dogpound and Fishface look like pokemons).

And so I like the Nick series now, but I wouldn't have checked that first episode if it wasn't TMNT.

pingclang · 08-06-2013, 08:46 AM

Being an old warhorse with the Turtles, when I first saw images and the first trailers I thought it was going to blow but man was I wrong. From the first episode I couldn't get enough. It's just so well done and a love note to every turtles incarnation with so many things pulled from here and there. I go to a friends house and watch it with him and he wasn't a fan in the least but after the show he's become a huge fan of all things Turtles. So no, I don't think we ALL like it just because. It is damn good.

dkram230 · 08-06-2013, 09:19 AM

If I was never a TMNT fan and didn't have a 4 year old, no I would probably not give this show any attention. However, with the kid, I have found cartoons that I do enjoy as an adult and make a point to tune in if I see they're on. The best example of this would be Gravity Falls that someone started a thread about last week. TMNT would have been one of these shows and with my son's obsession with Spongebob (who I now despise) we would have definitely found out about it.

That being said, given my TMNT background in the 80s/90s and the fact that as a young adult I made a point to watch the 2K3 series until it started to suck (Fast Forward), I would have gone out of my way to catch this new series even if there were no children in my home.

08-04-2013, 08:13 AM	#21
DaVinci Thug Join Date: May 2013 Location: South Africa Posts: 63	It's not just because I'm a TMNT fan either. I was largely out of TMNT for about a decade before I watched the new show, to see if it was any good. I've kept watching it because it is good. It led me to look for more Turtle things on the 'net, finding this site and starting on the IDW comics. Despite having been a big fan when I was little, I wouldn't have done any of that if I didn't enjoy the Nick show for what it is. __________________ Wow. This... ...This is a lot of people to interrogate.

08-04-2013, 08:38 AM	#23
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	No because I was leery when I heard Nick had bought the franchise and I was sure they would ruin it. But after giving it a chance, I really found I liked the show and never missed an episode. I definitely think it's the best incarnation they have going right now, and Ciro and crew are awesome with how they've handled it. Can't wait for more. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

08-04-2013, 02:29 PM	#34
DonatelloNinja82 Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,345	Even though I have been a fan forever it seems, I think I would still like this show even if I wasn't a TMNT fan originally. As mentioned previously, I'm not a fan of Next Mutation just because it's TMNT, just as others don't like the 2k7 movie (I do, but that's besides the point), or TMNT 3 (it's ok...). I think this show is great. I was honestly sad when I heard Nick had bought it, worried about what would become of the turtles, and I didn't like the fact that they had made April a teenager. But then Sept 29, 2012 came and I decided to watch it, and was instantly hooked. I love what Nick has done with the Turtles. I love the animation, the fighting, their personalities, the writing, the jokes, the emotion. I hardly watch TV at all. TMNT is the only show besides Futurama that I am watching right now (although when Korra comes back next month I will be watching that too). So that says something for me. If a show is well written with a good story and engaging characters, I will watch it. __________________ Michelangelo: Holy guacamole with hot sauce and jalapenos!

08-05-2013, 01:43 AM	#36
Coola Yagami Overlord Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 15,709	I'd honestly I wouldn't watch it, and wouldn't buy the IDW comics either. The comics I mostly buy are Batman-related, so I buy these new TMNT comics cause I'm a TMNT fan, and I like them finally having a regular monthly on-going series (Mirage's Volume 4 was almost years apart, and Tales of the TMNT jumped all over the place continuity-wise). As for the cartoon, I find myself too busy to watch or care about cartoons nowadays, so I'm sure I woulda passed on this thinking it was some stupid silly show. However, as a TMNT fan, when it comes to a TMNT cartoon, I don't care, I MAKE time to watch it. So yeah, big chance I wouldn't really give a damn unless I was already a TMNT beforehand. __________________ "I was down with TMNT once, but then they changed what TMNT was. Now what I was down with is no longer TMNT and what TMNT now is seems weird and scary. And it'll happen to YOU." Check out my blog for Comic Reviews and other things. https://markepicblogofrandomness.blogspot.com/ I also started The AEW Crew, the All Elite Wrestling Fan Club! https://www.facebook.com/groups/637508120044168/

08-05-2013, 02:46 AM	#37
Candy Kappa The Agenda of Existing Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Vikingland Posts: 14,596	I of course started to watch it because I am a TMNT fan, all the teaser material looked fantastic. I continue to watch it because it is a great show and well animated __________________ devianArt Instagram Youtube Tumblr Art Blog Patreon

08-04-2013, 10:12 AM	#24
Martin Stone Warrior Join Date: Feb 2013 Posts: 596	I think that because we are fans of the franchise we can't answer this objectively. Though I'm inclined to believe that no, there are probably a lot of people who also enjoy the show that aren't long standing fans of the turtles. However I also think that for some people the concept behind the TMNT may appear to be childish, and without a previous exposure to the franchise, they might dismiss it entirely because of it. So I couldn't really tell you. I once posted some gifs on reddit and most of the people there had not seen the show. A couple were even turned off by the animation style. Others, however, were more receptive and said they would start watching it to see if they dug it. The post wasn't that popular to be honest, so I didn't get much data xD If you are really interested in gouging this series success, I would recommend you to go to different sites and start asking around for people's opinions. Here you are only going to get (mainly) positive opinions about it.

08-04-2013, 11:30 AM	#26
Discogod Resolutely Analogue. Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Birmingham, UK Posts: 1,707	Nope. I was pretty much done with TMNT before the cartoon premiered, and had every intention of avoiding it. But I caught the first couple of episodes, and it was pretty good, so I gave it a try. Now I'm only halfway through the first season, but it's already probably my favourite incarnation of the Turtles.

08-04-2013, 11:47 AM	#28
Storm Eagle Saved by Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: New York Posts: 3,395	Maybe already being a TMNT fan helps me enjoy the show, but the show is still good anyway. Even so, the earliest TMNT series is my all-time favorite.

08-04-2013, 12:47 PM	#31
Koi Mad Scientist Join Date: Dec 2009 Posts: 1,787	I think this show is absolutely mediocre, which is why I really don't post too much at all here because I have no interest in this show. I think fans make it a lot better then it actually is. It is decent but not that good. It just has average to low animation and it also just seems like a monster of the week show that was primary just made for a children's toyline. Kind of like the anime TMNT. It is a kid's show though and that is to be expected. Especially from Nickelodeon, which is I am sure the main reason they bought ninja turtle is to collect money from the merchandise mainly. I also think most TMNT movies, comics, cartoons are rather just ordinary to crap though. I enjoy some of it just because I am a fan but when you start looking closer or looking back they all are pretty cheesy and just not that good. Everyonehasopinions.

08-04-2013, 02:01 PM	#32
Leofan26 Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 1,306	For me, yah. You'd not believe the kind of reaction I had to seeing what the 2012 versions looked like but stayed tuned any ways cuz the title if this thread says all However, I am glad I did as I'm really enjoying it and I think as the show goes on they'll become better and more developed, Leo in season 1 was a leader in training, I think in season 2 that will change, think hey'll become more serious with his training and skills due to the events in the finales and maybe a bit darker. Donnie over time will lose his crush on April and become more mature when it comes to saving lives. I'm hoping for Mikey, he becomes less of a clown and becomes a better fighter, improve himself. Don't know about Raph, work on his anger issues

08-04-2013, 06:54 PM	#35
raph27 Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2013 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,611	Well, I wasn't a TMNT fan before watching it. So yeah.

08-05-2013, 05:38 PM	#38
Raphaeline Foot Soldier Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 185	I wouldn't have watched it if I was not a TMNT fan. Even as a TMNT fan, I thought that the Nick 3D style was ugly, especially April. I usually don't like 3D cartoons because most of the time there is no real backgrounds, the design is pretty basic, cheap animation, etc. But well I forced myself to watch the first episode, because I wanted to give a chance to this new series. And I found it fun and the scenario well-written, and got used to the design (even if I still think that the rendering of human faces are usually awful and that Dogpound and Fishface look like pokemons). And so I like the Nick series now, but I wouldn't have checked that first episode if it wasn't TMNT. __________________ My deviantart

08-06-2013, 08:46 AM	#39
pingclang Stone Warrior Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Tennessee Posts: 552	Being an old warhorse with the Turtles, when I first saw images and the first trailers I thought it was going to blow but man was I wrong. From the first episode I couldn't get enough. It's just so well done and a love note to every turtles incarnation with so many things pulled from here and there. I go to a friends house and watch it with him and he wasn't a fan in the least but after the show he's become a huge fan of all things Turtles. So no, I don't think we ALL like it just because. It is damn good.

08-06-2013, 09:19 AM	#40
dkram230 Stone Warrior Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Midwest Posts: 613	If I was never a TMNT fan and didn't have a 4 year old, no I would probably not give this show any attention. However, with the kid, I have found cartoons that I do enjoy as an adult and make a point to tune in if I see they're on. The best example of this would be Gravity Falls that someone started a thread about last week. TMNT would have been one of these shows and with my son's obsession with Spongebob (who I now despise) we would have definitely found out about it. That being said, given my TMNT background in the 80s/90s and the fact that as a young adult I made a point to watch the 2K3 series until it started to suck (Fast Forward), I would have gone out of my way to catch this new series even if there were no children in my home.