Do we only enjoy the show because we're already TMNT fans?

[madyankees]

Actually I was thinking, because we are turtle fans to begin with it may have been harder for us to enjoy the show with all our prior experiences and expectations.

But fingers crossed, Nick's got a winner so far

[ironman29758]

Originally Posted by madyankees

Actually I was thinking, because we are turtle fans to begin with it may have been harder for us to enjoy the show with all our prior experiences and expectations.

But fingers crossed, Nick's got a winner so far

This. Nick has well exceeded my expectations with the show.

[FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza]

Ya, I was making the same point. I don't love anything with the TMNT brand on it.
And most of you guys may know that, since I joined here, I still hadn't seen one episode of the new show until within the past month or so.

Just finished watching Enter Shredder DVD... wish there were more episodes per disc :-/ hah
Pretty good. I'm still not crazy about Dogpound.
It's interesting, also, that Mikey has regressed from "party/surfer" dude to the youngest as personality goes. He acts younger then he is.
He's still silly, and that's the point, so he still kinda matches up. I just find it interesting he had the most drastic character change out of the brothers.

I really like Splinter here though, and I have never been a "fan" of Splinter.
I liked Kevin Clash's Splinter, I liked to OT Splinter, but the Nick one is pure badass awesome.

[Aaronardo]

Originally Posted by Koi

I think this show is absolutely mediocre, which is why I really don't post too much at all here because I have no interest in this show. I think fans make it a lot better then it actually is. It is decent but not that good. It just has average to low animation and it also just seems like a monster of the week show that was primary just made for a children's toyline. Kind of like the anime TMNT. It is a kid's show though and that is to be expected. Especially from Nickelodeon, which is I am sure the main reason they bought ninja turtle is to collect money from the merchandise mainly.

I also think most TMNT movies, comics, cartoons are rather just ordinary to crap though. I enjoy some of it just because I am a fan but when you start looking closer or looking back they all are pretty cheesy and just not that good.

Everyonehasopinions.

Not knocking your opinion here, but it's not a monster-of-the-week show. You probably just saw a couple of bad episodes and figured that the show was mediocore by, what? Two episodes? You've probably not seen the actual storyline. Might I recommend episodes like "The Gauntlet", "Operation: Breakout", or "Enemy of my Enemy"? Those are ones that follow the actual storyline, and not any freak-of-the-week episodes, (which are probably the ones you keep seeing -.-)

But, like I said, not bashing your opinion.

[BubblyShell22]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

So you basically admit the reason you don't like it was because it aired out of sequence? What does that have to do with NOW or the episodes on their own merits?

That was one of the reasons I didn't like it. The other was that the many of the villains were mediocre and the plot was redundant and boring. Instead of depending on a stupid time window, there was no reason why Renet couldn't have zapped them back. I just thought it was a waste of time, and I pretty much just pretend that FF and BTTS don't exist anymore and that they were a nightmare. It doesn't have anything to do with what's happening now, but you act like I'm constantly talking about it when I'm not. However, you constantly are butt-hurt about the REAL Krang showing up or Bebop, Rocksteady, or any other OT character. Looks like you need to take your own advice and get over it, but we all know you won't. I was just saying that the guy has an opinion, and you act like we all have to conform to your way of thinking. That's not the way life works, dear. I used to be like you, but I grew up and realized that everyone has their own opinion on things. You need to do the same.

Originally Posted by ElectricN

will you stop? if youve got that big of and issue with his dislike of fast forward, the private message button is right up there. this is like the 10th thread ive been on where youve caused an argument, you need to just relax and quit looking to start them.

For future reference, I'm a girl.

Originally Posted by Leo656

Sorry, I don't believe in Jesus, but Cybercubed definitely needs to get his head out of his a**.

[CyberCubed]

I feel sorry that you like to "pretend something as a nightmare" in regards to those seasons. Many of those episodes are better than the average fillers of the Nick show.

[BubblyShell22]

Well, that's your opinion, but I respectfully disagree with you on that. Now, stop trying to get me to conform to your opinion and drop it. I didn't like FF and BTTS, and that's that.

[Leo656]

That pic had nothing to do with who believes in what, it's about being outraaaaageous.

People need to lay off 'Cubed, at least a little. I agree with absolutely everything people find off-putting, but for some reason he entertains me. When I see his name as the most recent poster in any thread, it's an automatic must-read.

I also don't think he's actually trying to instigate all this angst in people, it just happens by accident, and it seems like he has no internal filter and has legitimately no idea what is and isn't appropriate. Why everyone takes it all so seriously is beyond me.

Nobody that likes Batman THAT much can be all bad. Give the guy a break.

Wait, he doesn't read comic books... nevermind what I said before, f*ck that guy and everyone who lives in his house.

[Justin]

Originally Posted by Kendamu

Being a TMNT fan is why I was looking forward to it. The fact that I like the show a lot is why I continue to watch it.

Same can't be said for a large portion of 2k3. I liked 2k3, but not enough to go out of my way to watch or rewatch it like I do NickTurtles.

Here I was thinking it was thinking that it was better than the rest. It's always been my favorite.

[FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza]

If I hadn't watched it as a kid, I probably wouldn't watch it now.

...
But that's really hard to say, 'cus I have watched shows for the hell of it because friends suggest it.
I think, no matter what, I would have ended up watching, and loving, TMNT at somepoint.

[BubblyShell22]

Originally Posted by Leo656

That pic had nothing to do with who believes in what, it's about being outraaaaageous.

People need to lay off 'Cubed, at least a little. I agree with absolutely everything people find off-putting, but for some reason he entertains me. When I see his name as the most recent poster in any thread, it's an automatic must-read.

I also don't think he's actually trying to instigate all this angst in people, it just happens by accident, and it seems like he has no internal filter and has legitimately no idea what is and isn't appropriate. Why everyone takes it all so seriously is beyond me.

Nobody that likes Batman THAT much can be all bad. Give the guy a break.

Wait, he doesn't read comic books... nevermind what I said before, f*ck that guy and everyone who lives in his house.

I know, but I thought I'd clarify anyway.

I thought he was entertaining at first, but now he just annoys me with how he tries to force his opinions down everyone's throats and act like everyone else is wrong for thinking differently. It's fine if you like something, but it's another thing to act like people can't have their own opinions and they have to like everything about TMNT. That's just my take on it. The guy really needs to get some priorities and perspective.

[Leo656]

It kinda went in waves, for me. Entertaining, then kinda "WTF dude," then entertaining again. Lately, rather than letting people bother me, I try and appreciate the eclectic mix of personalities we have here. Even if they repeat themselves often and miss the point of jokes made at their expense.

That's his gimmick. Mine is gallows humor and esoteric thesis paper replies to comments that aren't worthy of such effort. GK thinks he's Wolverine, and XERO once did 8 months for pimpin' hoes outside a Burger King. These quirks are what makes everyone here such a unique, beautiful little snowflake.

[biganimefan]

This is a little difficult to say. I really do love the Nick series. I still keep track of a few current cartoons that aren't remakes or sequels of ones I've watched before. So....maybe I guess.

I'll say this though, I've introduced a (girl)friend of mine to the Turtles recently via the 2k12 series. From what little she's seen so far, she really likes it. She did see a few episodes of the original but never got into it. I'm not sure she can recall any of the original.

[Gwydion]

I definitely think I would have still liked the show had I not known about the franchise previously. After all, I don't like every version of the TMNT out there. But this one hits all the right notes for me, so that's all I'd need to enjoy it.

Now, would I have ever actually started watching it without any previous attachment to the franchise? I'll be honest: absolutely not. First off, I don't watch a ton of cartoons, but secondly - and say what you want, it's just how I feel - I generally don't care for CGI shows/movies. While they do allow for a more consistent look, I usually just feel they lack *something*, and my first impression of the look of the show was a pretty bad one. It wasn't until I saw the Turtles in motion that I changed my tune, but even then I still greatly dislike most of the human designs.

So if someone could have gotten me to sit down and watch it, I know I would have still liked it, but actually getting me to give it a shot would have been a LOT harder.

[BubblyShell22]

Originally Posted by Leo656

It kinda went in waves, for me. Entertaining, then kinda "WTF dude," then entertaining again. Lately, rather than letting people bother me, I try and appreciate the eclectic mix of personalities we have here. Even if they repeat themselves often and miss the point of jokes made at their expense.

That's his gimmick. Mine is gallows humor and esoteric thesis paper replies to comments that aren't worthy of such effort. GK thinks he's Wolverine, and XERO once did 8 months for pimpin' hoes outside a Burger King. These quirks are what makes everyone here such a unique, beautiful little snowflake.

I try to do the same thing, but there's only so much I can take of it when it's about forcing an opinion down someone's throat and acting like that opinion is all there is instead of appreciating that other people DO think differently and don't have the same outlook. I tried to give FF a chance when it came out and stayed with it because it WAS Turtles and it was all we had. But after it was over, I knew I'd never get the DVDs for that series because it wasn't my cup of tea. Same with BTTS, which tried to go back to the earlier seasons, but still lacked things with Splinter being stuck in cyberspace and Serling coming home with the Turtles. I think those elements could have been nixed. But since we didn't get BTTS on DVD anyway, I really didn't care because I wasn't going to buy it.

Again, just my outlook. You don't have to agree with me on it, and it's okay if you don't.

[LeotheLateBloomer]

Originally Posted by Koi

I think this show is absolutely mediocre, which is why I really don't post too much at all here because I have no interest in this show. I think fans make it a lot better then it actually is. It is decent but not that good. It just has average to low animation and it also just seems like a monster of the week show that was primary just made for a children's toyline. Kind of like the anime TMNT. It is a kid's show though and that is to be expected. Especially from Nickelodeon, which is I am sure the main reason they bought ninja turtle is to collect money from the merchandise mainly.

I also think most TMNT movies, comics, cartoons are rather just ordinary to crap though. I enjoy some of it just because I am a fan but when you start looking closer or looking back they all are pretty cheesy and just not that good.

Everyonehasopinions.

I can kind of see where you're coming from. Admittedly, it does slightly bother me when a few fans try to make this cartoon a lot better than it is and that's not a good thing in my book because it could lead to others who aren't fond of this show thinking that it's overrated which I don't want for this show.

There are many things about this show that they do right compared to the 87 cartoon. Thankfully, they don't give them the multi-colored wrist, elbow, and knee pads as well as the initialed belt buckles, they eat pizza but not excessively, the Shredder is a menacing foe as opposed to a goof, and there's actual action where they can use there weapons and hurt people like the 03 cartoon. The main thing I kinda have against this show is that I still think it needs to find it's own identity and work with it. When it does though, it does a really good job. I still enjoy 2k3 way more than this show primarily because I like the way the storylines are portrayed in that show but 2k12 is easily better than the 87 series for me. As much as I love 87 for introducing me to the series, it has aged quite a bit for me.