Donatello as Leader

Leo2k3 · 08-13-2013, 12:45 PM

I don't know if anyone has addressed this, but here goes. I think this show would have been slighty better, and/or different if Donatello was the leader. He has shown himself worthy in a couple of instances, and he seems pretty skilled with his staff. Especially since the show didn't really give a "reason" as Leonardo is the leader beyond him asking to be, if I remember correctly.

One example would be the second fight with snake weed. He held him off long enough, for him, Raph, and Mikey to escape. I think this would have been a cool shake-up. However the crush on April might get in the way of his responsibilities, but this could have been an issue he could have learned to deal with along with his leadership role.

Also I was wondering why Donatello has the crush on April by himself? Would it have been more fun if all the brothers had a crush on April?

*Luckyday* · 08-13-2013, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Leo2k3

I don't know if anyone has addressed this, but here goes. I think this show would have been slighty better, and/or different if Donatello was the leader. He has shown himself worthy in a couple of instances, and he seems pretty skilled with his staff. Especially since the show didn't really give a "reason" as Leonardo is the leader beyond him asking to be, if I remember correctly.

One example would be the second fight with snake weed. He held him off long enough, for him, Raph, and Mikey to escape. I think this would have been a cool shake-up. However the crush on April might get in the way of his responsibilities, but this could have been an issue he could have learned to deal with along with his leadership role.

Also I was wondering why Donatello has the crush on April by himself? Would it have been more fun if all the brothers had a crush on April?

No. No it wouldn't because then she appear more of a Mary Sue.

*CyberCubed* · 08-13-2013, 12:49 PM

The only series where Donatello could have been the leader was the original cartoon. In that series he pretty much told all the other Turtles what to do most of the time.

*BabyTurtles* · 08-13-2013, 12:54 PM

maybe..but he gets pushed around alot in this series XD....

I remember when Raph was the leader and he made Donnie work faster by threatening to punch him XDD

and he is great with the bo....but he's arguably the weakest turtle (physically)

he's the smartest though~

*Luckyday* · 08-13-2013, 12:56 PM

Well in the mirage, he was consider second in command and when Leo was unconscious during the ambush of the gift shop, he was giving out orders.

*Electric* · 08-13-2013, 01:08 PM

i think its kind of an unspoken thing that don would generally be the leader if leos not present

*TurtleTitan97* · 08-13-2013, 01:32 PM

Why should Donnie be the leader? Leo's proven himself plenty of times that's he's a great leader.

*BabyTurtles* · 08-13-2013, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97

Why should Donnie be the leader? Leo's proven himself plenty of times that's he's a great leader.

I agree :3 Leo is a great leader

he works well under pressure
is both smart and strong

and he has the katana so that makes him the leader

*TurtleTitan97* · 08-13-2013, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by BabyTurtles

I agree :3 Leo is a great leader

he works well under pressure
is both smart and strong

and he has the katana so that makes him the leader

^ This, and he sacrificed himself twice to save his brothers. I don't think Donnie would do something like that.

Also, no, it would not be fun to see all 4 turtles crushing on April.

*BabyTurtles* · 08-13-2013, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97

Also, no, it would not be fun to see all 4 turtles crushing on April.

it's barely bearable when just one of them is crushing....

**Jester** · 08-13-2013, 02:00 PM

I've always seen Donnie as the #2 Turtle...like Cubded said, in the FW series, Donnie was always saving the day...WITH SCIENCE!!

*Electric* · 08-13-2013, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Jester

I've always seen Donnie as the #2 Turtle...like Cubded said, in the FW series, Donnie was always saving the day...WITH SCIENCE!!

isnt he the second oldest too?

*BabyTurtles* · 08-13-2013, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ElectricN

isnt he the second oldest too?

in 2012?

Donnie is the second youngest :3

Raph is the second oldest

Technogeek29 · 08-13-2013, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ElectricN

isnt he the second oldest too?

In IDW he is the 2nd oldest.

Bossa Nova · 08-13-2013, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TurtleTitan97

^ This, and he sacrificed himself twice to save his brothers. I don't think Donnie would do something like that.

I'm pretty sure they would ALL do this if required of them, not just Leo

*Donatello19* · 08-13-2013, 02:50 PM

As much as I'd love for Donnie to be the leader, I really can't imagine it not being Leo's role.

*Electric* · 08-13-2013, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Technogeek29

In IDW he is the 2nd oldest.

i read multiple places that one of the creators said donnie was the second oldest, then raph, and i like to see it that way

*Donatello19* · 08-13-2013, 03:10 PM

Aren't they all 15 in the Nick cartoon?

*Shark_Blade* · 08-13-2013, 04:46 PM

If we're talking about Don in IDW, then yes. He's very opinionated and questions Leo's logic a LOT in the comic (even arguing with him! Which surprised me since that was Raph's thing. I love it!). Plus he has the knowledge know how, and that's always best in decision makings - to have all the information as much as you can.

Either way, Don in Nick is capable as well from what I see.

*BubblyShell22* · 08-13-2013, 05:28 PM

I doubt Don would want that burden once he learns how it can be. We saw this with Raph and how he learned exactly how much pressure it is to be the leader. I'm not saying he would be a horrible leader, but I don't think he'd really want it. He's content just doing his own thing.

And, no, I don't want all of the Turtles to crush on April because that would just be horrible.

08-13-2013, 12:45 PM	#1
Leo2k3 Random Punk Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 29	Donatello as Leader I don't know if anyone has addressed this, but here goes. I think this show would have been slighty better, and/or different if Donatello was the leader. He has shown himself worthy in a couple of instances, and he seems pretty skilled with his staff. Especially since the show didn't really give a "reason" as Leonardo is the leader beyond him asking to be, if I remember correctly. One example would be the second fight with snake weed. He held him off long enough, for him, Raph, and Mikey to escape. I think this would have been a cool shake-up. However the crush on April might get in the way of his responsibilities, but this could have been an issue he could have learned to deal with along with his leadership role. Also I was wondering why Donatello has the crush on April by himself? Would it have been more fun if all the brothers had a crush on April? __________________ Long Live the Turtles!

08-13-2013, 12:54 PM	#4
BabyTurtles Foot Elite Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 4,177	maybe..but he gets pushed around alot in this series XD.... I remember when Raph was the leader and he made Donnie work faster by threatening to punch him XDD and he is great with the bo....but he's arguably the weakest turtle (physically) he's the smartest though~ __________________

08-13-2013, 12:56 PM	#5
Luckyday Mad Scientist Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 2,292	Well in the mirage, he was consider second in command and when Leo was unconscious during the ambush of the gift shop, he was giving out orders. Last edited by Luckyday; 08-13-2013 at 01:18 PM.

08-13-2013, 01:08 PM	#6
Electric Epic Hiatus Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,484	i think its kind of an unspoken thing that don would generally be the leader if leos not present __________________

08-13-2013, 01:32 PM	#7
TurtleTitan97 Space Cowboy Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Speed Force Posts: 7,043	Why should Donnie be the leader? Leo's proven himself plenty of times that's he's a great leader. __________________

08-13-2013, 12:49 PM	#3
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,872	The only series where Donatello could have been the leader was the original cartoon. In that series he pretty much told all the other Turtles what to do most of the time.

08-13-2013, 02:00 PM	#11
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,300	I've always seen Donnie as the #2 Turtle...like Cubded said, in the FW series, Donnie was always saving the day...WITH SCIENCE!! __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

08-13-2013, 02:50 PM	#16
Donatello19 Merchandise Maniac Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: New York Posts: 5,919	As much as I'd love for Donnie to be the leader, I really can't imagine it not being Leo's role.

08-13-2013, 03:10 PM	#18
Donatello19 Merchandise Maniac Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: New York Posts: 5,919	Aren't they all 15 in the Nick cartoon?

08-13-2013, 04:46 PM	#19
Shark_Blade Emperor Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,909	If we're talking about Don in IDW, then yes. He's very opinionated and questions Leo's logic a LOT in the comic (even arguing with him! Which surprised me since that was Raph's thing. I love it!). Plus he has the knowledge know how, and that's always best in decision makings - to have all the information as much as you can. Either way, Don in Nick is capable as well from what I see.

08-13-2013, 05:28 PM	#20
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	I doubt Don would want that burden once he learns how it can be. We saw this with Raph and how he learned exactly how much pressure it is to be the leader. I'm not saying he would be a horrible leader, but I don't think he'd really want it. He's content just doing his own thing. And, no, I don't want all of the Turtles to crush on April because that would just be horrible. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.