Do you think that because it's CGI that animation itself will have limitations

*Luckyday* · 08-17-2013, 06:08 PM

With a cgi show, they tend take short cuts with scenery and I can't imagine them going out of their way to make a snowy background of the city.

pingclang · 08-17-2013, 06:13 PM

Actually, I was noticing with the show today how good of a job they do on the animation. Even the backgrounds. If you look the city is thick with buildings and little touches of detail like smoke and steam from pipes and what-not. I think they can handle anything and do it well. As for the snow, I hope and pray they do a Winter episode. I love that time of year and would love to see the Turtles dealing with the cold and snow. Would be an awesome picture.

*TurtleTitan97* · 08-17-2013, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Luckyday

With a cgi show, they tend take short cuts with scenery and I can't imagine them going out of their way to make a snowy background of the city.

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*Luckyday* · 08-17-2013, 07:31 PM

Where did you get that?

*TurtleTitan97* · 08-17-2013, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Luckyday

Where did you get that?

TMNTMaster posted it awhile back on tumblr, and one of the members posted it here.

*Luckyday* · 08-17-2013, 08:09 PM

Did this TMNTMaster work on the nick's TMNT?

**Jester** · 08-17-2013, 08:12 PM

Has some part to play with the show in some capacity...I wanna say it's the official Nick TMNT twitter/tumblr.

*snake* · 08-17-2013, 08:43 PM

With a bigger budget in S2, I'm sure we'll be seeing less shortcuts (more civilians, more locations, less skips.)

*Luckyday* · 08-17-2013, 09:00 PM

That would make me very happy because if there one thing that people keep harping on this show is how the show has the short comings of CGI and how the beauty of traditional 2D animation is just simply more suited for episodic shows and blah blah blah.....

Martin · 08-17-2013, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by snakeweed101

With a bigger budget in S2, I'm sure we'll be seeing less shortcuts (more civilians, more locations, less skips.)

I second this. I mean they really have to step it up since S2 is based around going through NYC looking for ooze canisters. This gives them the chance to really flesh out the city. In the first eps of S1 the shortcuts were obvious, but I feel they got progressively better as the season went on. I think it's safe to assume that they'll keep improving as time goes on and the budget gets bigger (:

*snake* · 08-17-2013, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Luckyday

That would make me very happy because if there one thing that people keep harping on this show is how the show has the short comings of CGI and how the beauty of traditional 2D animation is just simply more suited for episodic shows and blah blah blah.....

It's improving, I could see it improved in the second half of S1, and I think CGI suits this series better.

DonatelloNinja82 · 08-17-2013, 09:57 PM

I think it's been good so far...I have no problems with it.

*BubblyShell22* · 08-18-2013, 08:32 AM

I love the CGI for this show and the little details they tend to make with the buildings and whatnot. I'm sure there will be more details in season 2, and that they will probably have a few winter scenes as well.

*Shark_Blade* · 08-18-2013, 08:50 AM

Think of Final Fantasy's cgi cutscenes and films. Beautiful.

Now think of it's limit. None/not much right? The limit is in the mind's imagination only.

Trivia · 08-18-2013, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Luckyday

That would make me very happy because if there one thing that people keep harping on this show is how the show has the short comings of CGI and how the beauty of traditional 2D animation is just simply more suited for episodic shows and blah blah blah.....

Hey, can't blame people for protecting 2D animation, it's dying.
3D has earlier on been expensive to produce, the rendering was time consuming so the details were often limited. Especially for shows which has a lot more material and deadlines than a movie would.

This has improved a lot the last years though, and TMNT has done very well by going for a style that works good with simple shapes and textures. It won't need a super realistic rendering.

Stylized CGI shows are hardly ever limited nowadays, so if there is any essential detail they would like to add(like snow for instance) I don't think they will have any problems with it.

Avatar Yuffie · 08-19-2013, 06:21 AM

It's gonna sadly look dated 5 years from now. But then again I can claim the same in most hand drawn animation as well.

Action scenes still be awesome though.

*Electric* · 08-19-2013, 08:23 PM

i think the CG is great for this show, and will continue to get better as the series continues. to me, the action scenes are incredible in CG

im not saying that cg is better than 2d drawing or vice versa, i just think for this series it works well.

FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza · 08-20-2013, 04:18 AM

New York is seemingly empty and quite in almost all portrayals in TMNT.
I mean, empty streets where the Turtles can drive go-carts and Dogpound rides on the back of a van and proceeds to fight in the street?

Even in the 2007 movie... Raph seems to hang out in areas of no occupancy. There are only a few moments, like where Leo is chasing Nightwatchman, where the city looks and feels alive. Then April, Casey, Karai and a Foot are being chased by a giant monster in deserted NY streets.

This is something that has always bugged me, especially going back on the original OT series.
I hope it's something that will be corrected in some way.

08-17-2013, 06:08 PM	#1
Luckyday Mad Scientist Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 2,292	Do you think that because it's CGI that animation itself will have limitations With a cgi show, they tend take short cuts with scenery and I can't imagine them going out of their way to make a snowy background of the city.

08-17-2013, 08:12 PM	#7
Jester Rat-faced Dude-guy Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Arkansas Posts: 26,300	Has some part to play with the show in some capacity...I wanna say it's the official Nick TMNT twitter/tumblr. __________________ "Clearly, you're Ninja Turtling incorrectly." - Leo656

08-17-2013, 09:57 PM	#12
DonatelloNinja82 Mad Scientist Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 1,345	I think it's been good so far...I have no problems with it. __________________ Michelangelo: Holy guacamole with hot sauce and jalapenos!

08-18-2013, 08:32 AM	#13
BubblyShell22 Leo-holic Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Indiana Posts: 16,912	I love the CGI for this show and the little details they tend to make with the buildings and whatnot. I'm sure there will be more details in season 2, and that they will probably have a few winter scenes as well. __________________ "A warrior who never fails, never learns."-The Ancient One. "Embrace your inner a**holiness."-Mr. Anderson.

08-19-2013, 06:21 AM	#16
Avatar Yuffie Stone Warrior Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 805	It's gonna sadly look dated 5 years from now. But then again I can claim the same in most hand drawn animation as well. Action scenes still be awesome though. __________________ We all know that Most Writers Are Male. Something like eighty percent of media aimed at children have male main characters, whereas half the population is female. At best, women will often be minor characters or will not be present at all. Stories about women are for women, stories about men are for general consumption. (TV Tropes Feminist Fantasy)

08-17-2013, 06:13 PM	#2
pingclang Stone Warrior Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Tennessee Posts: 552	Actually, I was noticing with the show today how good of a job they do on the animation. Even the backgrounds. If you look the city is thick with buildings and little touches of detail like smoke and steam from pipes and what-not. I think they can handle anything and do it well. As for the snow, I hope and pray they do a Winter episode. I love that time of year and would love to see the Turtles dealing with the cold and snow. Would be an awesome picture.

08-17-2013, 07:31 PM	#4
Luckyday Mad Scientist Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 2,292	Where did you get that?

08-17-2013, 08:09 PM	#6
Luckyday Mad Scientist Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 2,292	Did this TMNTMaster work on the nick's TMNT?

08-17-2013, 08:43 PM	#8
snake Disgusting Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Outer Heaven Posts: 12,231	With a bigger budget in S2, I'm sure we'll be seeing less shortcuts (more civilians, more locations, less skips.)

08-17-2013, 09:00 PM	#9
Luckyday Mad Scientist Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 2,292	That would make me very happy because if there one thing that people keep harping on this show is how the show has the short comings of CGI and how the beauty of traditional 2D animation is just simply more suited for episodic shows and blah blah blah.....

08-18-2013, 08:50 AM	#14
Shark_Blade Emperor Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 7,909	Think of Final Fantasy's cgi cutscenes and films. Beautiful. Now think of it's limit. None/not much right? The limit is in the mind's imagination only.

08-19-2013, 08:23 PM	#17
Electric Epic Hiatus Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 2,484	i think the CG is great for this show, and will continue to get better as the series continues. to me, the action scenes are incredible in CG im not saying that cg is better than 2d drawing or vice versa, i just think for this series it works well. __________________

08-20-2013, 04:18 AM	#18
FlogginMcMurryZombiePizza Mad Scientist Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Arizona Posts: 1,229	New York is seemingly empty and quite in almost all portrayals in TMNT. I mean, empty streets where the Turtles can drive go-carts and Dogpound rides on the back of a van and proceeds to fight in the street? Even in the 2007 movie... Raph seems to hang out in areas of no occupancy. There are only a few moments, like where Leo is chasing Nightwatchman, where the city looks and feels alive. Then April, Casey, Karai and a Foot are being chased by a giant monster in deserted NY streets. This is something that has always bugged me, especially going back on the original OT series. I hope it's something that will be corrected in some way.