TMNT #25 Preview/Discussion - Page 8

Bobby Curnow · 09-01-2013, 02:00 PM

We never said Bebop and Rocksteady's first appearance would be in their micro.

corvus · 09-01-2013, 02:07 PM

"The IDW debut of these powerful villains has arrived!"

The solicitation says debut...

Bobby Curnow · 09-01-2013, 03:37 PM

Fair enough, I stand corrected. It's mincing words, but I believe the use of the word 'debut' there was in the sense of first time we see them doing anything of note or for an extended period.

Regardless, obviously it's not their first appearance.

corvus · 09-01-2013, 06:48 PM

I got you. So was #25 the first appearance of Hun?

**Jester** · 09-01-2013, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Coola Yagami

I fail to see any grammar issues or 'writing like a kid'. Unless I'm missing something, please point it out to me. He's talking like normal people talk. Not everyone talks like those so-called teens on Dawson's Creek. I mean... people skip out the g on some words, and people do use the word 'wanna'. Hell, I use it all the time.

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Originally Posted by Lampy

yea... i don't get the grammar issue at all either. isn't he supposed to talk like a teenager? wrong grammar and all? i mean... it's mikey... not older mirage writer mikey... but teenage idw mikey.

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I think "Me and Donnie" is the culprit. But I figured it was intentional.

It's the "All I seen..."

It may only stand out to me because it's my all-time grammar pet peeve.

*Plasticplayhouse* · 09-01-2013, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by corvus

I got you. So was #25 the first appearance of Hun?

i doubt he'll answer that. he likes when we debate

Bobby Curnow · 09-01-2013, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Plasticplayhouse

i doubt he'll answer that. he likes when we debate

Quoted for truth!

*Kendamu* · 09-01-2013, 08:31 PM

If he's Hun, then it'll be a very interesting departure from what was established in Tales during the Mirage days. Hopefully we see some references to that material within, though, as a lot of us loved it and were ready for more.

*Coola Yagami* · 09-01-2013, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Kendamu

If he's Hun, then it'll be a very interesting departure from what was established in Tales during the Mirage days. Hopefully we see some references to that material within, though, as a lot of us loved it and were ready for more.

If they do show flashbacks with a younger Hun, it might be similar to what we saw in Mirage.

corvus · 09-02-2013, 12:53 AM

Nine days. Maybe seven if the the preview tells us anything. Hun is one my favorite characters, I hope you guys don't mess him up...the whole Casey's dad possibly being Hun thing makes me worry about the character. I only say its possible cause Tom and Bobby haven't debunked it yet and they did say #25 would be his first appearance. Other than that it seems unlikely.

*CyberCubed* · 09-02-2013, 08:50 AM

I can't understand why Casey's Dad would become Hun, for the following reasons:

1. The body types don't match up. Casey's Dad is a drunken slob with a beer gut and is totally out of shape. Hun is a muscle-bound, well-toned and fit man who looks like he's been working out for his entire life. Even ignoring the blonde hair, how can someone change their body that much in a short amount of time? Even using comic book logic it would be poor writing.

2. Casey's Dad is a bad father, but I never saw him as a true villain. Isn't Hun supposed to be a master criminal? Why would Casey's Dad go from drinking himself silly to become a criminal/killer? We even saw him check on Casey in the hospital bed feeling sorry for him.

*Plasticplayhouse* · 09-02-2013, 10:21 AM

You guys can't see the forest through the trees. You are thinking waaay too hard about this.

Tazi · 09-02-2013, 11:20 AM

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Casey's Dad is a drunken slob with a beer gut and is totally out of shape.

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

how can someone change their body that much in a short amount of time?

By using a different artist interpretation.

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

2. Casey's Dad is a bad father, but I never saw him as a true villain. Isn't Hun supposed to be a master criminal? Why would Casey's Dad go from drinking himself silly to become a criminal/killer? We even saw him check on Casey in the hospital bed feeling sorry for him.

I think it will be like "going back to his old ways" to him, like when he had the purple dragons, they ruled the place, and people were afraid to **** with them. So his intention will be to clean up the hood, or something like that. I guessing at the end of the arc he will end up working for Shredder.
That's a theory, of course, but seriously, if I can come up with some explanation as a non-writer, good writers like Tom will be able to do much-much more, trust me.

*Panda_Kahn_fan* · 09-02-2013, 12:21 PM

Okay, the better thing to do would be to comapre the tatoos side by side.

And Bobby, if the point was to have that panel be the big the big reveal that 'OMG Hun is Casey's dad', then the art differences made it a bit too ambiguious. Not saying it wan't an awesome issue though.

corvus · 09-02-2013, 12:24 PM

Tazi. Santolouco draws him as a drunken slob, it doesn't matter how Dan Duncan draws him cause he's not drawing Hun in the ongoing.

Tazi · 09-02-2013, 12:33 PM

He actually draws him as inconsistently.

*CyberCubed* · 09-02-2013, 01:07 PM

Also why does he dye his hair blonde? Did he wake up one day and say, "I want to be blonde now?"

corvus · 09-02-2013, 01:16 PM

You can't see his gut in the last panel, its really not inconsistent.

Anyways. I'm wondering if we're gonna get to learn more about the other organized crime bosses that Victor was meetingwith. Like that Asian chick in the white seemed interesting.

*MikeandRaph87* · 09-02-2013, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Also why does he dye his hair blonde? Did he wake up one day and say, "I want to be blonde now?"

I was the first to question why Casey's dad was on the cover of #27 with blonde hair as it did not look like Hun from early episodes of the 2003 cartoon. While his phyisque has changed it is plausible. Its like a this version only twist to bring forth characterization and relationships that otherwise would not have been.Its like Splinter being the biological father of Karai the step daughter of Shredder in the Nicktoon. Hun bored me in the '03 toon while this could be interesting. No direct rivalry but a different kind of animosity and prehaps redeemtive figure.Villians that are not that bad aside from Shredder and Krang seems to be a theme with IDW.

ctt4lfecw · 09-02-2013, 02:04 PM

I finally got around to reading this today. I thought Hun had the ability to punch a hole through the street, I don't see Arnie Jones being able to do that.

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corvus Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2012 Location: London Posts: 783	"The IDW debut of these powerful villains has arrived!" The solicitation says debut... __________________

09-01-2013, 06:48 PM	#144
corvus Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2012 Location: London Posts: 783	I got you. So was #25 the first appearance of Hun? __________________

09-02-2013, 12:53 AM	#150
corvus Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2012 Location: London Posts: 783	Nine days. Maybe seven if the the preview tells us anything. Hun is one my favorite characters, I hope you guys don't mess him up...the whole Casey's dad possibly being Hun thing makes me worry about the character. I only say its possible cause Tom and Bobby haven't debunked it yet and they did say #25 would be his first appearance. Other than that it seems unlikely. __________________

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09-02-2013, 12:21 PM	#154
Panda_Kahn_fan Mad Scientist Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 1,715	Okay, the better thing to do would be to comapre the tatoos side by side. And Bobby, if the point was to have that panel be the big the big reveal that 'OMG Hun is Casey's dad', then the art differences made it a bit too ambiguious. Not saying it wan't an awesome issue though. __________________ My TMNT fanfic: https://www.fanfiction.net/s/1266176...n-a-Half-Shell IDW is the best version of TMNT If they make a TMNT reboot movie retelling the shredder battle/origin, I won't buy a ticket.

09-01-2013, 02:00 PM	#141
Bobby Curnow Official TMNT Staff/Cast Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 1,518	We never said Bebop and Rocksteady's first appearance would be in their micro.

09-01-2013, 03:37 PM	#143
Bobby Curnow Official TMNT Staff/Cast Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 1,518	Fair enough, I stand corrected. It's mincing words, but I believe the use of the word 'debut' there was in the sense of first time we see them doing anything of note or for an extended period. Regardless, obviously it's not their first appearance.

09-01-2013, 08:31 PM	#148
Kendamu Sewerhead Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Canada Posts: 2,890	If he's Hun, then it'll be a very interesting departure from what was established in Tales during the Mirage days. Hopefully we see some references to that material within, though, as a lot of us loved it and were ready for more.

09-02-2013, 08:50 AM	#151
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,871	I can't understand why Casey's Dad would become Hun, for the following reasons: 1. The body types don't match up. Casey's Dad is a drunken slob with a beer gut and is totally out of shape. Hun is a muscle-bound, well-toned and fit man who looks like he's been working out for his entire life. Even ignoring the blonde hair, how can someone change their body that much in a short amount of time? Even using comic book logic it would be poor writing. 2. Casey's Dad is a bad father, but I never saw him as a true villain. Isn't Hun supposed to be a master criminal? Why would Casey's Dad go from drinking himself silly to become a criminal/killer? We even saw him check on Casey in the hospital bed feeling sorry for him.

09-02-2013, 12:24 PM	#155
corvus Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2012 Location: London Posts: 783	Tazi. Santolouco draws him as a drunken slob, it doesn't matter how Dan Duncan draws him cause he's not drawing Hun in the ongoing. __________________

09-02-2013, 12:33 PM	#156
Tazi Mad Scientist Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Budapest, Hungary Posts: 1,088	He actually draws him as inconsistently. __________________

09-02-2013, 01:07 PM	#157
CyberCubed Overlord Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 43,871	Also why does he dye his hair blonde? Did he wake up one day and say, "I want to be blonde now?"

09-02-2013, 01:16 PM	#158
corvus Stone Warrior Join Date: May 2012 Location: London Posts: 783	You can't see his gut in the last panel, its really not inconsistent. Anyways. I'm wondering if we're gonna get to learn more about the other organized crime bosses that Victor was meetingwith. Like that Asian chick in the white seemed interesting. __________________

09-02-2013, 02:04 PM	#160
ctt4lfecw Stone Warrior Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Neutrino Posts: 817	I finally got around to reading this today. I thought Hun had the ability to punch a hole through the street, I don't see Arnie Jones being able to do that.