disablities: social, learning ect.

[BubblyShell22]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Being bad in one particular subject doesn't mean you have a disability. I always hated math as a kid and it was my worst subject, but I got better at it around College.

Just like others who hate english/writing because they don't know how to properly write an essay...is that really a disability? I don't think so.

Did you even read my post? I said that I was tested for a learning disability and it was discovered I had it. I struggled with math in college because of it, and that's why I hate math. It's my weakest subject and always will be. So don't try and say that I don't have a learning disability when I just stated that I do. You are such an ignorant idiot.

[CyberCubed]

Originally Posted by BubblyShell22

Did you even read my post? I said that I was tested for a learning disability and it was discovered I had it. I struggled with math in college because of it, and that's why I hate math. It's my weakest subject and always will be. So don't try and say that I don't have a learning disability when I just stated that I do. You are such an ignorant idiot.

Who said I was even talking to you?

[Type 97 Chi-ha]

One reason people might think that not all diagnosed mental problems are real.

And if anyone is familiar with Shakespeare's Hamlet, the title character feigns madness to lull his treacherous uncle into thinking that he is no threat.

[BubblyShell22]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Who said I was even talking to you?

Well, it seemed that way judging by your post. But if you weren't talking to me, I apologize. I'm not in the best of moods anyway, so sorry if I lashed out like that. I do admit I learned a lot about math in college, but it was still pretty hard for me, though I did manage to learn equations fairly quickly. I think fractions was the worst type for me though as well as Statistics. Ugh. So glad I don't have to any of that again.

[gobo]

Originally Posted by CyberCubed

Who said I was even talking to you?

Who were you talking to then?

[Dawnatello Turtle Chick]

Originally Posted by gobo

Who were you talking to then?

I wonder if Cyber meant it as more of a general statement? Not necessarily directed at anyone on here? Don't know, just throwing it out there!

I also believe that there seems to be a genetic component involved and I believe the more prevelant internet dating becomes(where someone who might be socially awkward in face to face "traditional" dating- they can talk about things easier online and thus get to know someone before being dismissed as "odd") the more I think a lot of Asperpergians (even some Autistic people) are able to actually connect with someone enough to have a relationship- whereas before internet dating it might have been harder for someone who has trouble navigating social settings to successfully court a significant other to the point that the relationship results in a child. Statistically speaking we are more likely to have more Aspergians or Aspie-tendencied people having children who *might* (if indeed there is a genetic component) be more prone to Autism or Aspergers themselves. I hope I'm making sense- my brain does a great job of jumbling up what I'm acutally trying to say.

I would never had met my husband had we not me online on a dating website, I wouldn't have gotten to know him enough to fall in love with him and we wouldn't have married and had our son. Our son is too young yet to know whether or not he has Aspergers, but we have ruled out Autism by now.

[MsMarvelDuckie]

Never been diagnosed, but I suspect I may have a mild form of dyslexia, myself. I never noticed it in school, but since becoming an adult, I've noticed that what began as an occasional tendency to mix a letter or two here and there, or to run words together accidentally, has grown steadily worse as I get older. Also, it happens more frequently with numbers. Not sure if one can become dyslexic as an adult, or if it just took longer to notice, but I have to be very careful when typing and go over everything I type out before posting. And at work, I sometimes misread numbers back to customers on the price of an item or an order, or even type it in wrong when I know what it SHOULD be. It's annoying at times. Not enough to cause serious problems, but it just seems like this might be one of the reasons I had so many problems in school, especially in math. I was in gifted classes for much of my school life (because of high IQ and reading levels), but always struggled with many of them. I've also always had trouble focusing and paying attention- so ADD might be another factor- but again, I've never been tested. Makes me wonder if some of my problems growing up couldn't have been fixed. And I fidget or get restless a LOT when I get bored, too.....

On a different note, my husband has Type 1 diabetes, which is also a kind of "disability" in its own right. It's hard doing physical tasks or sports when one has to keep such a tight grip on glucose levels and food intake. After 35 years living with it (he's 38, so he's had it a LONG time) it is beginning to take its toll in the form of neuropathy and now an amputated foot.

[BubblyShell22]

My cousin has dyslexia and my sis has epilepsy. She was diagnosed when she was fifteen and has been on different meds since, though the one she's on now really helps.

[NameGoesHere1066]

my older brother's fiances's little boy has autism. He is a challenge and my brother tries very hard get along with him. Honesty it is beginning to become an issue in his relationship with his fiance because he is wondering if he can handle her son. His autism is not as sever as other cases but he is still difficult.

[Davetello]

If there's one thing that really irritates me it's when people mock the disabled. Disabled people are vulnerable and require compassion - they can't always defend themselves and things can be very difficult for them so to see some coward putting them down really annoys me. It really is a yellow thing to do.

I absolutely despise terms such as 'spazzy', 'mong' and 'retard'. One thing I hate in the original movie is when Mikey calls one of the Foot a 'spaz' in the fight at April's.

[Jester]

Yeah the connotation of "spaz" is far weaker in the USA than in the UK....that and the movie's 25 years old.

[Davetello]

Originally Posted by Jester

Yeah the connotation of "spaz" is far weaker in the USA than in the UK....that and the movie's 25 years old.

I wasn't aware that there are less connotations of the word in the USA. As for the fact that it's 25 years old, so what? Another thing I dislike is people trying to excuse reprehensible behaviour because 'times were different back then, it was less tolerant'. 1990 isn't exactly that long ago anyway.

I see people do this a lot. Some try to excuse European imperialism and slavery because 'things were different back then, you're judging by modern standards'. I also see people exonerate Prince Philip's racist comments by saying that he's an old man who lived through the 1920s-1970s so of course he will be less tolerant than many of today. I'm sorry, but it's utter BS in my opinion. In the 1800s colonialists should have known that selling and killing fellow human beings was fundamentally wrong, as should Philip in the twentieth century. Despite what people may say, the 1800s and 1900s weren't completely savage - people still had a sense of right and wrong and to try and excuse this sort of behaviour is very wrong, in my opinion.

I'm not saying that's what you're doing here but I don't see it being 1990 or 'spaz' not being as serious a term in the USA as it is in the UK as evidence of the term being acceptable to use. I felt this way back in 1990 when I was 8 years old. If an 8 year old boy can see the bigger picture, why can't grown adults? It's no excuse.

Also, the way you've phrased your reply is very condescending (starting it with 'yeah' and adding in an ellipsis later). Is there really any need for that attitude?

[Jester]

Using a word is not tantamount to slavery. My grandmother uses the outdated term "colored" but it's mainly because of her age, not any bile in her heart.

And yes, despite the shared language, some words in American English are less harsh than their Queen's English counterparts, and vice versa. "Spaz" is one such word.

[Davetello]

Originally Posted by Jester

Using a word is not tantamount to slavery. My grandmother uses the outdated term "colored" but it's mainly because of her age, not any bile in her heart.

And yes, despite the shared language, some words in American English are less harsh than their Queen's English counterparts, and vice versa. "Spaz" is one such word.

More twisting of what I am saying. Where exactly did I say that words were tantamount to slavery? I'm drawing a comparison i.e. you're trying to excuse the use of the word 'spaz' because it was a different era and because it's not as offensive a term over there. Is using the word 'spaz' even in the same stratosphere as slavery? No, but the principle remains the same - trying to remove accountability from people because they didn't know any better.

Your grandma and Prince Philip should adapt to modern times. If I'm still mentally living in the early 2000s as an old man in 2055 then I won't be too happy with myself. I know there's no bile in her heart (in contrast to the royal muppet I refer to) but that doesn't make it alright.

I know that different words carry different meanings and varying levels of severity in UK and US English - I just didn't know that 'spaz' was one of them. Nonetheless, it doesn't negate what I am saying - 1990 wasn't that long ago and people were more 'enlightened' by then. Also, 'spaz' may not be that offensive in the US but it's still a questionable term and the turtles were an international phenomenon at the time who appealed to kids, so the writers should have known better. Despite what your maniacal, interfering president and some citizens of your country think, the world doesn't revolve around the United States of America.

[Jester]

You brought up imperialism and slavery to make a point about word usage. I didn't twist that any more than you did my use of "Yeah" and ... when you saw them as condescending. Just how I speak, sir.

As for the world not resolving around the US, I know it doesn't but you have to see a movie produced in America in its context. And that context is that the word isn't seen as offensive where the film originated from. If a series/film had to check all its usage against slang in foreign markets...everything would be edited down to nothing.

I mean, seriously, this an American based forum, so I can't even type the non offensive UK term for cigarette (***...see.), because here it is offensive. It's more about the context in which a thing is used, than that of the outsider looking in.

[Davetello]

Originally Posted by Jester

You brought up imperialism and slavery to make a point about word usage. I didn't twist that any more than my use of "Yeah" and ... is seen as condescending. Just how I speak, sir.

As for the world not resolving around the US, I know it doesn't but you have to see a movie produced in America in it's context. And that context is that the word isn't seen as offensive where the film originated from. If a series/film had to check all it's usage against slang in foreign markets...everything would be edited down to nothing.

I mean, seriously, this an American based forum, so I can't even type the non offensive UK term for cigarette (***...see.), because here it is offensive. It's more about the context in which a thing is used, than that of the outsider looking in.

First off, if you weren't being condescending then I apologise. It's difficult to understand tone on the internet, as we all know.

Second, you did twist it. You implied in your follow-up reply that I was claiming that offensive words are tantamount to slavery. I don't think that they're of similar seriousness - I'm saying the principle is the same in that some try to excuse behaviour because of a lack of understanding. At no stage did I suggest words are as offensive as slavery, as that would require a severe lack of comprehension of the latter. I tried to explain this to you in my last post, but you're still misrepresenting my views, be it intentionally or unintentionally. If it's the latter, it's not really my problem if you can't 'get' what I'm saying.

As for your other points about the film being produced in America, I did consider what you're saying. It's a good point, but ultimately I feel it is more relevant to media which is produced with an adult audience in mind. The turtles at the time mainly appealed to very young kids (which we both were) so I'm not sure the use of the word 'spaz' was very appropriate. I know of plenty of British parents at the time who were unhappy with its usage. There was debate about Raphael's use of 'damn' in a film aimed at kids but 'spaz' is far more offensive to many. Ultimately it's a movie aimed at kids all over the world - it was simply unnecessary and inappropriate. The last thing we needed was kids copying their heroes and calling other kids 'spaz' in the playground.

You make a fair point but I still disagree. At least it's a reasonable point, though, unlike your constant insistence that I believe offensive terms are tantamount to slavery.

[Powder]

There's actually a spaz who works on the TMNT, so calm yourself down.

[Davetello]

Originally Posted by Powder

There's actually a spaz who works on the TMNT, so calm yourself down.

I'd appreciate if you didn't tell me what to do.

This is also like the argument "how can I be a racist? I have black friends!"

That argument went out ages ago son.

I wasn't expecting my post to attract such attention. There's some argumentative souls on here, but I already knew that.

[Jester]

So...because "spaz" is offensive in the UK it should be removed from an American produced movie that might have a market over there? The world doesn't revolve around the UK any more than the US.

Heck, I'm surprised it didn't just get the axe along with Mikey's nunchucks.

[Powder]

Originally Posted by Davetello

I'd appreciate if you didn't tell me what to do.

This is also like the argument "how can I be a racist? I have black friends!"

That argument went out ages ago son.

But father*, you don't want to read this series of TMNT books illustrated by the infamous Patrick "Spaz" Spaziante?



Who said anything about racism? Sheesh, some people...

*Son is a very condescending thing to say, hypocrite.