What do you think the turtles will look like?

[Bob]

Originally Posted by Teal Turtle

I think it's time we get a sneak peak of the turtles. Its time....

I think you're actually a Troll.....

[Teal Turtle]

Originally Posted by Bob

I think you're actually a Troll.....

By saying its time they show us something?

YOU are the problematic troll.

[CansecoBat]

Originally Posted by Slime State Alumni

You don't have to be so defensive about ConsecoBat's post. He's merely arguing his point; I didn't see him post anything remotely "nasty" in his reply other than the fact that he disagreed with you.

At least someone cared to help defend me from a total overreaction, and overly confrontational response. Thanks, bud.

Originally Posted by Slime State Alumni

And why did you post a still again as an example of CGI being realistic? That's another still image, not a fully animated digital effect.

Which is also what I'm getting @ ... good post.

Originally Posted by sgtfbomb

(For example, that picture above, looks real, but if it were in motion, it might not be as convincing, as that's where "weight" and "dimension" tend to dissipate -- one specific tell is that the image is glossy and the eyebrows look artificial.)

No, the problem truly is with how the CG is handled. A lot of filmmakers just go crazy, and devise sequences that break EVERY single law of physics. An average member of the audience may or may not know which laws are being broken, but they tend to know something's wrong.

So while CG will most likely be a major criticism/praise as to why the upcoming film is good or bad, it's really what the filmmakers have planned for the CG.

This too, another great post.

[Slime State Alumni]

Originally Posted by omnimorphic

Anyways - i did a quick sketch over of the blurry image that was posted, trying to outline what is in the image.

It's an artistic interpretation as well, so please, don't bite my head off!Attachment 5730


just having a little fun with what we might be getting...

Oh god. The terrifying thing is, you're likely not far off from what they'll look like. Kudos on that sketch though.

That elephant man leg though.

[Slime State Alumni]

Originally Posted by omnimorphic

So, you mean like what was done in Sin City?


I agree, Green screen effects can look horrible, but they can also work and look great as in the film I've mentioned above. Bay is literally the last guy to employ green screen. Watch any making of, and the VFX artists talk indepth about how Bay loves to shoot 35, and shoot as much as he can practically, and hardly ever shoots "clean plates".

I think you have Bay wrong is all.

That being said, what do you think now that the "shadow" of the design has been released?

And yes, saw the doc - but lost interest halfway through.

Sin City was awful.

The only thing he loves to do practically is large explosions and car chases. Then he has a VFX artist animate several ridiculous CGI robots on top of it.

Why'd you lose interest in the doc? Not enough explosions?

[psychturtle]

oh man that would be atrocious.

[BODYCOUNT]

ever since Life of Pi i really believe you can CGI anything and make it look real AF

[Teal Turtle]

Originally Posted by omnimorphic

Anyways - i did a quick sketch over of the blurry image that was posted, trying to outline what is in the image.

It's an artistic interpretation as well, so please, don't bite my head off!Attachment 5730


just having a little fun with what we might be getting...

Love it! Love the fact that the turtles will be wearing clothes and armour.

[sgtfbomb]

I think we're taking that image far too literally. It's probably just a crew shirt, and not meant as a reveal of any sort. Maybe that specific image will show up in the film? It even looks like a news promo type deal, or even something like a big foot shirt. Maybe, either at the start of the film or by the end of it, rumors and tall tales are spreading about four ninja fighting vigilantes? Or maybe he was just proud to have that shirt to commemorate the hard work he put into making the film? Who knows?

[Slime State Alumni]

Originally Posted by omnimorphic

Not enough...interest.

Really, you are a film buff, take a minute and watch any TF making of, then we could have a more frank discussion.

I am a film buff, which is why I won't allocate a second to watching a TF making of.

[The Boston Ninja Turtle]

he has you there...a film buff would watch anything and everything to make themselves knowledgeable of whatever content they are speaking of


i sir am a film buff, ive watch classic films, silent films, current films, foriegn films, indie films, blah blah films you get the jjist



anyways i will say how the turtles look, how the script is, how the movie pans out wont bug me if its bad its bad oh well put it away never talk about it again watch it on my own, if its good awesome make 2 more put it away never talk about it again watch it on my own

yes there are parts i am concern about it i am not gonna lose sleep over it

[sgtfbomb]

The implications are that because it's low budget, it's bad. It's terrible because it's terrible. Not because it's low budget and didn't use CGI. The first Ninja Turtles film looked great. No, it didn't look real, but it looked great, and, for the most part, the film itself was good, which is really all that matters. People who judge films only by effects, and only think films are good because "the effects are shiny," have an annoying, closed-minded deficiency, where their minds get around the fact that a film from 1990 will not look like a film from 2013, and vice versa. By 2026, we'll be defending the effects from the upcoming film to over-entitled whiners, and many will be doing the opposite, as well.

And, because I'm a film buff, that means I should watch endless hours of Made for Video crap? And, even though Curse of Chucky was absolutely godawful, I should look into how the filmmakers brought it to life? Extreme examples, perhaps, but certainly included in "anything and everything." Point is, if I, a film buff, do not like Michael Bay's end results as a filmmaker, than I need not waste time learning how he achieved those results. Instead, I will use my time researching filmmakers I do like and how they make movies. If you see that as naive and ignorant, than I suggest you watch films like Smurfs II, Twilight, and Movie 43, and research how those "masterpieces" were brought to life.

As an aside, I think it's hilarious that people act as if the guy who brought us subpar cheesefests such as Pain & Gain, Transformers 3, and Bad Boys II should be required research for film students. Even Bay admits that's not even his audience. He makes films for 12 years old and people who act like 12 year olds. He even specifically said that, "I make movies for teenagers." Some are enjoyable, some are OK, and some are blatantly terrible. For me, he's an optional study at best. For you, well, if he's the guy who inspired you to make films and his is the style you want to emulate, then study him.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by omnimorphic

So I just stumbled over this little grind house TMNT related video.
You'll be happy to note that there isn't a shred of CGI to be found, but it does get an endorsement from Troma.

You wanted a low budget TMNT film - looks like you got your wish.

The irony is the film Troma wanted to do before the Turtles "made it big" might have been worse than anything Bay and Company do....

[Powder]

You're thinking of New Line Cinema, Jester.

[Jester]

Originally Posted by Powder

You're thinking of New Line Cinema, Jester.

New Line did make the 90's movies, but there was a proposed Troma flick (I wanna say it would have costumes similar to Kunchabunga's avatar), that Kevin and Peter turned down.

[Slime State Alumni]

Originally Posted by omnimorphic

Then i guess you'll remain ignorant of the real Michael Bay and continue to rely on group think to inform your opinion.

A true film buff would watch anything and everything.

So you're telling me a film buff should watch every Rob Schneider movie ever? Maybe top it off with every Scary Movie sequel too? Do you not understand the lack of logic in that statement?

LOL The REAL MICHAEL BAY LOLOLOL

[Slime State Alumni]

Originally Posted by omnimorphic

When i was a film major

Well I wish you had said that earlier. It's all so clear now.

[Bob]

Your avatar as well as the title of the film it’s taken from speaks volumes.

[Slime State Alumni]

Originally Posted by Bob

Your avatar as well as the title of the film it’s taken from speaks volumes.

Thanks Bob

[Cure]

Uuuuuuuuugh, the pretentiousness from both sides is mind boggliiiiiing.