Captain America: The Winter Solider

[ToTheNines]

Trailer came out today. Looks pretty cool. Other than Age of Ultron, this is probably the Phase 2 movie I'm most interested in.

I'm pretty happy with Cap's suit here. Probably isn't as cool as it was in The First Avenger, but he looked like something out of Power Rangers in Avengers.

[Raph's Girl]

Uh oh... looks like Bucky owes Nick Fury a new helicarrier.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by ToTheNines

I'm pretty happy with Cap's suit here. Probably isn't as cool as it was in The First Avenger

Though he actually gets back his First Avenger suit in this at one point (he jacks it from a museum, I believe I read). You even see him in it in the trailer.

I'm guessing he wears the costume you see when he's doing stuff for SHIELD, then when he realizes they're up to no good he turns his back on them and takes back his first costume. By the end we'll probably see a slightly new version of his Avengers suit.

[Turo602]

Trailer looks great. So far, it looks like the best of the phase 2 movies. Iron Man 3 was disappointing, and I'm not really too hyped for Thor 2.

[Andrew NDB]

Yeah, the trailer looks great. But then so did the trailers for Iron Man 3... and that movie really kind of burned me.

[ZariusTwo]

Film looks like it might be a better story than the first Cap movie, which I thought was way too boyscoutish and cartoonish to be a beleivable period peice about a hero's life in the second world war.

Giving how divisive Iron Man 3 has proven to be, Phase II needs to bounce back with Thor: Dark World to reclaim some faith. So far in terms of other output like the dire Agents of SHIELD and corny cartoons, Marvel really have been losing the plot lately. Part of me is glad as I've never forgiven the company for Civil War and other hot sticky comic book related messes the last few years, but it's still sad to see them produce a lot of mediocrity lately.

[chrisdude]

I'm so excited about this movie. I find questionable SHIELD stuff compelling, and I can't wait to see what choices Cap has to make.

[Leo656]

I really liked the first Cap film so I'm sure I'll liked this one as well. I disagree with Zarius about part I, I admit it had a little more of a "cartoonish" quality in spots but I don't think anyone was expecting to have "Saving Pvt. Ryan" welded onto a super-hero movie. I found the film did a really clever job covering the areas of the character's history. I liked how he was shown to be initially a propaganda character to inspire troop morale rather than a "real" soldier, since that's exactly what the real-life character was created to be initially, a pure piece of pro-U.S. propaganda, and I thought the way they did it, though silly, was clever.

I get what you're saying, though. Sometimes the way they show things in movies almost has to be unrealistic or else there's no movie. Like "Iron Man II", in real life Stark would have been taken into custody and sent to a military prison for the rest of his life for refusing to turn over his Iron Man tech to the government. There's no way a jolly speech would convince the gov't that this guy or any guy could be trusted to walk around with technology that could conceivably bring about the End Of Days if mishandled. But eh, movies.

[ZariusTwo]

Originally Posted by Leo656

I really liked the first Cap film so I'm sure I'll liked this one as well. I disagree with Zarius about part I, I admit it had a little more of a "cartoonish" quality in spots but I don't think anyone was expecting to have "Saving Pvt. Ryan" welded onto a super-hero movie. I found the film did a really clever job covering the areas of the character's history. I liked how he was shown to be initially a propaganda character to inspire troop morale rather than a "real" soldier, since that's exactly what the real-life character was created to be initially, a pure piece of pro-U.S. propaganda, and I thought the way they did it, though silly, was clever.

I admit I just didnt "get", or at the very least, didnt appreciate, what they were trying to do, normally that sort of stuff works for me in parody, but I like to think Cap can be the s*it in terms of a character. I wouldnt want him decking Hitler or anything, but something a bit more serious, like we seem to be getting now, would have sufficed.

It was also other areas like the toyetic aspects and it's purpose as a set-up for all the fantasy aspects of The Avengers that I had a problem with. A big ad for another movie is not a dramatic selling point for me

[Leo656]

I wasn't upset at all about Cap's movie setting up the Avengers, because that's exactly what it should have done: In the comics, Cap was only relevant during WWII, and then disappeared until they did The Avengers, so it was pretty accurate there. Cap as a solo character was only a precursor to the larger things to come, basically. I think Iron Man II was more unforgivable in the "Commercial for Avengers" aspect. I liked it, but it literally didn't need to exist in any way at all, other than to say "Oh, yeah, we're still making an Avengers movie, in case anyone forgot." On its own it really doesn't do anything.

That said, I did think Cap was by far one of the stronger stand-alone Marvel films. It does heavily foreshadow what's coming next, but it was really one of the better ones on its own, too. I'm intrigued by where the sequel might go with it.

[LivingMutagen]

Looks awesome. How will Cap leaving SHIELD affect Coulson though? I would say more but can't think of much. Falcon looks cool, as does le Winter Soldier.

[raph27]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Yeah, the trailer looks great. But then so did the trailers for Iron Man 3... and that movie really kind of burned me.

That's what worries me. the IM3 trailers were AWESOME, but the movie was...well, average.

[Allio]

Just watched Captain America for the first time, I can say yeah, I'm looking forward to the second one

[Slade]

I liked the trailer. I'm okay with the 1st film, though it isn't one of my favorites. Course, I am more of a DC fan anyway. I watch Marvel movies just because I guess.

[Andrew NDB]

Originally Posted by RaphaeltheAwesome13

That's what worries me. the IM3 trailers were AWESOME, but the movie was...well, average.

Yup. The trailers painted it like this visceral revenge thriller with a strong terrorist element, Tony having to rebuild himself from scratch to fight a superior nemesis. The reality was like a comedic spoof on the whole superhero genre itself, with a decoy villain masquerading for a less interesting fake villain and Iron Man barely ever being Iron Man. I felt angry after Iron Man 3.

[Whatswiththeheadbands?]

Originally Posted by Andrew NDB

Yup. The trailers painted it like this visceral revenge thriller with a strong terrorist element, Tony having to rebuild himself from scratch to fight a superior nemesis. The reality was like a comedic spoof on the whole superhero genre itself, with a decoy villain masquerading for a less interesting fake villain and Iron Man barely ever being Iron Man. I felt angry after Iron Man 3.

The thing i didn't like was the fact that Iron man 3 didn't know what it wanted to be. Did it want be a comedy, or a superhero film? No one knows.

And it also lacked what made Iron man brilliant: Tony Stark's brilliant comedic timing and lines. He was witty and funny in the first and even second one. in Iron man 3, however, seemed like he was trying too hard to be funny.

[sdp]

Exactly, I was so disappointed in IM3 for the same reasons as Andrew, and I actually liked Iron Man 2 even if it was more of the same from the first one. I"m more of a DC guy but the Cinematic Universe is alright, I enjoy the movies for what they are but they don't set my world on fire like they do to some people, the only one I've truly loved is the first Iron Man. This trailer looks ok, I'll probably see it before Avengers 2 but I liked the trailer for Thor 2 more which I'll probably only see before Avengers 2 as well. I think Antman and Guardians of the Galaxy might be the only two I might see in theaters besides Avengers 2 if they look interesting. Well I'm looking forward to X-Men Days of Future Past but that one isn't MCU.

[TigerClaw]

Someone made the F*ck Yeah! version of the trailer.

Spoiler:

[Megchan]

I keep expecting Captain America to yell "FLAME ON!"

[tsukeru]

My body is so not ready for this movie.