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Old 11-04-2013, 08:54 PM   #61
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Agree. Don't understand the hate for the later seasons of The Simpsons. Sure it's not at the level of the early seasons (what is?) but the new episode this past Sunday still had me laughing. It'll be a sad day when The Simpsons airs its final episode.
There is the ocassional good episode, but most of Seasons 11-24 is rather bad or mediocre.

Simpsons used to be considered one of the best shows on television. Seasons 2-9 especially have so many heartwarming and enjoyable episodes. The quality started slipping around Season 10, but by Season 11 onward the show became more mean-spirited and Family Guy like and it never recovered. This is not even counting how flanderized and out of character most of the major characters have become.
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Old 11-04-2013, 08:55 PM   #62
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Simpsons from Season 11 onward.
^ hasn't watched Simpsons since season 11....

Seriously, it gets a bum rap.
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Old 11-04-2013, 08:58 PM   #63
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^ hasn't watched Simpsons since season 11....

Seriously, it gets a bum rap.
I've seen every episode of Simpsons to date. I'm one of the few who never stopped watching it since my childhood.
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Old 11-04-2013, 10:06 PM   #64
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Comparing any show to a younger version of itself isn't ever fair, though.

And again, even the very worst episode of The Simpsons is objectively better than any episode at all of something like The Brady Kids.

I'd have to say that aside from a few obvious gems like Flintstones, Jetsons, and Scooby-Doo, many of the cartoons from the late-60s and early-70s were very subpar. You had a lot of good Hannah-Barbera stuff but even a lot of that was very simple and formulaic. The standards of the day were so low, budgets were super low and everything had to be so bland and inoffensive. A lot of the shows are fondly remembered because the characters themselves were fun and memorable, but by and large the quality of the writing and animation, even on a show like Flintstones, was mediocre-to-awful. We don't remember those shows because they were necessarily great, we remember the characters more than anything.

Take Scooby-Doo as another example; for the first few years, every episode was literally exactly the same. If someone tried to make a show like that today, people would sh*t all over it and it would never get a second season. As for animation, there wasn't much of it. If the characters weren't so dynamic it wouldn't be so successful to this day, and it says a lot that many of the newer, ostensibly "better' versions of the show have NOT caught on or become as popular as the earlier, objectively sh*ttier versions.
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Old 11-04-2013, 10:33 PM   #65
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The Simpsons is still good imo. Some episodes are not that great and seem pointless at times but after 20 plus years thats a given. Its still good enough to keep going though.

I really enjoy the yearly Scooby animated movies. They seem to loosely follow each other and some are genuinely good like Camp Scare and Mask of the Blue Falcon for more recent examples.
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Old 11-04-2013, 11:24 PM   #66
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Yeah most of the old Hanna-Barbera stuff is horrible now. The only show that still holds up is The Flintstones which is amazing, and to a lesser extent Jetsons and some of the better Scooby Doo episodes.
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Old 11-05-2013, 02:54 AM   #67
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1970's Tom and Jerry, where they were allies instead of adversaries

1990's Pink Panther where he talks
The only time Tom & Jerry were adversaries in the 1975 edition was sports themed episodes (bowling, motorcycle racing, tennis, etc.)

Sure Matt Frewer (aka Max Headroom) voiced the Panther. But in the first few shorts, it was Rich Little with that British voice.

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Old 11-05-2013, 10:52 AM   #68
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A lot of Marvel cartoons were all terrible.
Extreme Dinosaurs were bad too at least Street Sharks had really cool toys.
One of the worst cartoons I've ever seen is probably Double Dragon.
Robocop was also terrible.
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Old 11-05-2013, 12:15 PM   #69
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90s Fantastic Four (first season)
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And again, even the very worst episode of The Simpsons is objectively better than any episode at all of something like The Brady Kids.
...I think when fans start saying things like "a s*itty episode of The Simpsons is better than some show that nobody in the mainstream consensus remembers in five minutes let alone five years", it's a pretty tell-tale sign they're in denial about the show's quality

I for one won't be sad when The Simpsons comes to an end. It stopped having anything interesting to say a decade and a half ago, the characters have ceased to grow in respectful and natural ways that compliment their personalities.

I've actually sort of become Frank Grimes to the show's Homer, I point out to all the mainstream hicks the show is completly void of merit and appeals strictly to the easily pleased and the brand loyalists, and they're all "pipe down, I want to see Homer win first prize at a children's competition". The only difference is I won't go nuts and electrocute myself

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Take Scooby-Doo as another example; for the first few years, every episode was literally exactly the same. If someone tried to make a show like that today, people would sh*t all over it and it would never get a second season. As for animation, there wasn't much of it. If the characters weren't so dynamic it wouldn't be so successful to this day, and it says a lot that many of the newer, ostensibly "better' versions of the show have NOT caught on or become as popular as the earlier, objectively sh*ttier versions.
That's true. Mystery Inc was unloved by the Network and it seemed more concerned with being about New Age concepts than standard Saturday morning mysteries. Conspiracy loons like myself loved it, but it was hard to pin it down, and the movies are your usual kiddy shlock that seem to just diminish with energy and surprise with every outing.

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Old 11-05-2013, 04:04 PM   #70
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The only time Tom & Jerry were adversaries in the 1975 edition was sports themed episodes (bowling, motorcycle racing, tennis, etc.)

Sure Matt Frrewer (aka Max Headroom) voiced the Panther. But in the first few shorts, it was Rich Little with that British voice.
I'm comparing them with past cartoons. Tom and Jerry were funny when they fought each other. Also, the problem with the Pink Panther with Matt Frewer was less that he talked but that the episodes mostly stank. Some were funny, most were just ridiculous.
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Old 11-05-2013, 05:10 PM   #71
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I liked MLP Tales when it was the MLP characters from the movie. Once they put in the new ponies like Bright Eyes, Patch, Clover, Melody, etc. it just got horrible.
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Old 11-05-2013, 05:50 PM   #72
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The Simpsons is still good imo. Some episodes are not that great and seem pointless at times but after 20 plus years thats a given. Its still good enough to keep going though.

I really enjoy the yearly Scooby animated movies. They seem to loosely follow each other and some are genuinely good like Camp Scare and Mask of the Blue Falcon for more recent examples.
I really enjoy the yearly Scooby movies myself, but I love Scooby-doo!! I liked Mystery Inc as well.

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I liked MLP Tales when it was the MLP characters from the movie. Once they put in the new ponies like Bright Eyes, Patch, Clover, Melody, etc. it just got horrible.
OMG yes...horrid!!
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Old 11-05-2013, 05:55 PM   #73
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Most Marvel cartoons are terrible. Many of the old 80's and 90's ones were bad as are the ones of today.

The only really good ones were Spectacular Spidernan, X-men Evolution and Avengers: EMH.
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Old 11-05-2013, 05:58 PM   #74
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Wolverine and the X-men was pretty good. Canceled before it's time.
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Wolverine and the X-men was pretty good. Canceled before it's time.
That is so true. I was so looking forward to the Age of Apocalypse storyline.
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Old 11-05-2013, 06:09 PM   #76
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Wolverine and the X-men was pretty good. Canceled before it's time.
That show was very average. It did have potential to be a great show if Season 2 happened.
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Old 11-05-2013, 06:44 PM   #77
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That show was very average. It did have potential to be a great show if Season 2 happened.
I am actually watching it right now and its a good watch, but wolverine is not wolverine.
He is not hot tempered, but a lot more level headed as if he has prior character developement and now he is trying to be a leader instead of the lone worlf.....fairly interesting take on the character.
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Old 11-05-2013, 06:47 PM   #78
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That show was very average. It did have potential to be a great show if Season 2 happened.
Honestly I thought that they did too much for one season, also its good to know that the X men never had a Terrible Cartoon
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Old 11-06-2013, 05:36 AM   #79
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Honestly I thought that they did too much for one season, also its good to know that the X men never had a Terrible Cartoon
...Well unless you count the 80s pilot, which is quite corny, but has awesome animation quality and theme music ("magneto's whores are on the way")
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...Well unless you count the 80s pilot, which is quite corny, but has awesome animation quality and theme music ("magneto's whores are on the way")
That's one episode....
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